BREAKING: TRUMP WINS! Supreme Court Rules 6-3 on Presidential Immunity

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Vermilion

Judge Comey Barrett specifically stated in a footnote in today's opinion that she believes the fake elector scheme does not fall under the office immunity. So don't quite count your chickens yet on that one.

It’s not going to effect the upcoming election anymore.
Trunp will get 4 more years in office and Fani will probably get disbarred.
Winner winner chicken dinner.

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Boomer1947

The Fani case is nuked.
Fani will end up paying for her corrupt garbage office though.
Brags case will be kicked on appeal.
Jack Smith was unlawfully appointed so that case will be done as well.
Now what?

The Fulton County, Georgia case will now have to play by the same rules as the Federal case in DC. The prosecution will have to convince the judge that Trump's call to Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger was not an official act.

If you read today's SC decision, they pointed out that when Trump talked to his Attorney General, Barr about ways to maybe interfere in the election, he had immunity for that because 1) conversations between a POTUS and his AG fall within the definition of Constitutionally protected official duties, and 2) it's not permissible to question the motives of a POTUS acting within his Constitutionally protected roles.

There is no place in the Constitution that I'm aware of where asking the AG of Georgia to find you some votes qualifies as an official act.

a reply to: Boomer1947

This is why you're one of the biggest jokes of a poster here.

Try as you might to convince others that officials conversing in public view isn't official duties.


Hilarious.

a reply to: Boomer1947

The call to the Georgia SOS was an official act of a POTUS.
I’m sorry if that’s disappointing but it is what it is.
Buck up, your guy is still president for a few more months and he’s breathing today. That’s a win win. 👍

originally posted by: Vermilion
a reply to: Boomer1947

The call to the Georgia SOS was an official act of a POTUS.
I’m sorry if that’s disappointing but it is what it is.
Buck up, your guy is still president for a few more months and he’s breathing today. That’s a win win. 👍

I suspect Joe will step down very soon. He will be in a wheelchair by next year, and decease not long after. He will then at that point be made to stand trial for all of his crimes. He will be delivered to a final prison forever. Its called Hell, and it with him in it will be tossed into the lake of fire. Joe is toast.

Seems the OP is either ignorant on what happened today, or is spreading disinformation on purpose for those that will fall for it. It's either ignorance or disinformation, one or the other.

Has anyone in this thread already explained by page 4 what actually happened today?

Do people know the Supremes DIDN'T rule on this today and instead they delayed the case?

So while the case may not happen before the election, as would be beneficial for the people of the nation, it's still the same as it was a week ago -- we just don't know yet.

Don't get too excited about Biden's unlimited powers yet, he doesn't have them. He's still just a president, not a king.

a reply to: Mahogani

It makes more sense to categorize a POTUS as a king (with co-equal kings) with public scrutiny. Power of the pardon and commander in chief being evidence of this. While they can't act as unilaterally as a king, the power to act still remains.

The irony of you of all people accusing anyone of misinformation notwithstanding......

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Boomer1947

This is why you're one of the biggest jokes of a poster here.

Try as you might to convince others that officials conversing in public view isn't official duties.


Hilarious.

It is hilarious

It's also why it's impossible to discuss anything here anymore.

This whole damn time the left has said no courts have even heard the case much less ruled, well now the courts have heard and ruled.

and BTW we can quibble over what an official act is or isn't as long as whatever it is deemed make sure it applies to all sides.

ergo if Trump's call isn't an official act, how many unofficial acts does Biden have? or Obama or Clinton or Dubya.

It's a slippery slope.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Read the full text of Supreme Court’s decision on Trump’s immunity
Former presidents are immune from prosecution for their official actions taken while in the White House, but don’t have immunity for unofficial acts, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.

Former presidents are immune from prosecution for their official actions taken while in the White House, but they don’t have immunity for unofficial acts, the Supreme Court ruled Monday.

“A former president is entitled to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his ‘conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority,’ ” the ruling says. “There is no immunity for unofficial acts.”


It seems highly unlikely that the 45th president will go to trial on charges of trying to subvert the 2020 election before voters cast ballots in this year’s presidential contest, in which Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee, in which Trump is the presumptive Republican nominee

a reply to: putnam6

Once upon a time this would be the place to go to suss out what this actually means instead of what people want it to mean

For example. A POTUS could, at any time, launch a nuclear strike or invade a nation (even this one).

While there may exist future culpability, the thought that they were somehow prohibited by words alone is only a safe space machination.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: WeMustCare
The GOOD NEWS is that Obama and Biden can now be prosecuted for INSURRECTION (Obama against President Trump) and TREASON (Biden inviting murderers into America).

The bad news is that Biden could now declare Trump, and any/all of his supporters in the government to "Officially" represent a "clear, present, and immediate danger" to the US, and have them "eliminated".

It would be an "official act" after all; Presidents are sworn to defend the Country against All threats, foreign and domestic.

This is such a convoluted knot of nonsense logic that it’s not worth untangling.

Is this what watching CNN and MSNBC does to people now?


Glad Supreme Court is making good rulings. Wonder if it’s because they think Trump is about to get back in office. That has somehow made them emboldened to stand up and make these decisions?

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: IndieA

I don't see this as a win.

And he is entitled to at least presump-tive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts.
There is no immunity for unofficial acts

If they define his actions as non official acts. He can be tried.

True, but the ruling on whether something was an official act can be appealed all the way the to Supreme Court.
This means that both the prosecution in Georgia and in Washington first need to prove their charges are not an official acts.
Quite hard to do when investigating election fraud is a primary purpose of the Executive branch. It's whole mission outside of the armed forces is to enforce the laws of the land.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Mahogani

It makes more sense to categorize a POTUS as a king (with co-equal kings) with public scrutiny. Power of the pardon and commander in chief being evidence of this. While they can't act as unilaterally as a king, the power to act still remains.

The irony of you of all people accusing anyone of misinformation notwithstanding......

It makes sense to you to make Biden king?

a reply to: putnam6

Not to mention that Trump's call to Georgia's SOS not only wasn't illegal, but it was completely warranted.

Georgia's 2020 election was an unverifiable disaster that should have never been certified.

a reply to: IndieA

The President as a candidate is allowed on the call to ask for the specific number of votes to win the state?

Maybe that will happen this year. I'm sure you'll be fine with that, right? I wouldn't be.

...Those were official acts, completely legal. Biden orders the asassination of Trump for National Security reasons...completely legal. Biden says election is fake and stays in office, legal according to the supreme court. So cool, we have a dictator now? Seems sort of counter to the whole, you know, freedoms thing, but that was a lie anyway that most of you fell for.

I guess the Democrats get the last laugh as now anything Biden does can just be done as an official act. Whatever that means.


a reply to: WeMustCare

What this does do is end enough of the questioning that combined with Joe Biden's legitimate issues, it's likely enough for Trump to win a free and fair election.

Which after all the roadblocks and indictments and raids, is also hilariously funny and I can't stand Trump but it is easy to extrapolate it ALL was politically motivated

I guess you're too naive to realize that we now no longer have an executive that has checks and balances. They are now free to do anything as long as they call it an official act. Seems pretty straight forward. If I were president, I'd immediately just start directing agencies to do whatever I wanted because it's an official act. Student loans can now be forgiven and it's not illegal..

Soooooo, this is a mess.


a reply to: pianopraze

You are forgetting that now Biden can just say Trump didn't win. It's not illegal, he's the president and says so, so it's legal.

You see the problem, don't you?


a reply to: putnam6

a reply to: UKTruth

This is assuming that what Trump was saying was factually true. Which seems to have been disproven over time. So if he is in fact lying in order to sway the officials in Georgia. What then?

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Mahogani

It makes more sense to categorize a POTUS as a king (with co-equal kings) with public scrutiny. Power of the pardon and commander in chief being evidence of this. While they can't act as unilaterally as a king, the power to act still remains.

The irony of you of all people accusing anyone of misinformation notwithstanding......

It makes sense to you to make Biden king?

Depending on definition, yea.

Elections have consequences.