What is Russian civilization?

a reply to: Kurokage

Of course, the KGB/FSB have only ever tried to promote peace, harmony and stability throughout the World...

not surprising, another we're king sh@@ on turd hill, hating and bashing others countries, saying they are persecuting us trying to undermine our delusions of grandeur.
russia is just as blanked up as any other country, more so than others, and not so much as some although not by much.

a reply to: kwaka

With my take on history, the Vikings owned the sea lanes a very long time ago. They captured the British isles and spread out along the Russia sea front/

The Vikings didn't capture The British Isles. They tried but the only part they succeeded in was the near North and East of England ( even though it wasn't known as England at that time, but consisted of various Kingdoms ).

a reply to: alldaylong

that's not entirely correct, there were periods where they were in control of england and or the english paid the protection money.

n 1013, Sweyn Forkbeard returned to invade England with a large army, and Æthelred fled to Normandy, leading Sweyn to take the English throne. Sweyn died within a year, however, and so Æthelred returned, but, in 1016, another Viking army invaded, this time under the control of the Danish King Cnut, Sweyn's son.[50] After defeating Anglo-Saxon forces at the Battle of Assandun, Cnut became king of England, subsequently ruling over both the Danish and English kingdoms.[50] Following Cnut's death in 1035, the two kingdoms were once more declared independent and remained so, apart from a short period from 1040 to 1042 when Cnut's son Harthacnut ascended the English throne.[50]

Viking activity in the British Isles

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Bloody Vikings?

m.youtube.com...

a reply to: BernnieJGato

that's not entirely correct, there were periods where they were in control of england and or the english paid the protection money.

True, but the Vikings never captured The British Isles as the OP claimed.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: RussianTroll

the British. Their intelligence services have been involved in Russia for 500 years.

British intelligence services date back from 1882.

With your continual " British Bashing " threads, you are making yourself look a fool. You must really have a deep envy of The British. You are obsessed.

English intelligence services go way back

www.theguardian.com...

Elizabeth I's spymaster Robert Cecil (who uncovered the 1605 Gunpowder Plot), kept records of all her spies operating in Europe.

Cecil had an organised network of more than 20 spies, in Lisbon, Calais, Brussels, Seville, Rome, Amsterdam, Scotland, Sweden and unspecified locations elsewhere. No direct mention of the Russia's that I believe, were considered barbarians with no culture or civilisation.

a reply to: covent

You may not believe it, but in Russia they still remember how for decades the English secret services poisoned Tsar Ivan the Terrible with mercury through English doctors, because he refused to become the husband of the English queen, as well as financing the uprising of Emelyan Pugachev against Empress Catherine 2, a century later. This is the minimum.

a reply to: covent

a reply to: RussianTroll

That's doctors. It doesn't matter where they're from. The healthiest people never trust doctors.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: covent

You may not believe it, but in Russia they still remember how for decades the English secret services poisoned Tsar Ivan the Terrible with mercury through English doctors, because he refused to become the husband of the English queen, as well as financing the uprising of Emelyan Pugachev against Empress Catherine 2, a century later. This is the minimum.

You do like to blame the British for all of Russia's woes don't you? And you like to twist the truth and out right lie in your stories....

He died on March 18, 1584, when he was ready to play a game of chess. He was buried in the cathedral of St. Michael the Archangel. According to experts, the psychotic attacks, he suffered were due to the treatment of syphilis with mercury, which was common at the time and caused brain damage causing constant mood swings, euphoric and choleric, with psychotic dyes. Some historians believe that he was poisoned by the boyars, but there are references that say that he took small amounts of mercury against his syphilis.

Which Queen do you claim he was supposed to marry, as I can find no mention of that? He did propose to Elizabeth 1st but she wasn't interested.

Withdrawal and flight are themes that run through the later years of Ivan’s reign. He expressed an interest in establishing diplomatic and trade relations with England, even suggesting his readiness to marry an English noblewoman. In 1575 he seems to have abdicated for about a year in favour of a Tatar prince, Simeon Bekbulatovich. During the 1570s he married five wives in succession in only nine years.

www.rbth.com...

However, a failed proposal didn’t deter Ivan the Terrible from the idea of intermarrying with the English royal house. In 1582, the tsar sent his envoy Fyodor Pisemsky to Elizabeth I with the task to, first, discuss the terms of a union treaty with England and, second, to negotiate a possible marriage between the tsar and Mary Hastings, Elizabeth I’s distant relative, who in the Tsardom of Muscovy was known as the Princess of Hountinski. Some historians believe that the marriage matters were closely tied to the problem of the signing of the union treaty and practically inseparable from it.

I point out your lies with actual links and facts and thats why you refuse to post a reply to me.

originally posted by: TimBurr
a reply to: RussianTroll

That's doctors. It doesn't matter where they're from. The healthiest people never trust doctors.

In Russia even then, in the 17th century, there were extremely effective interrogation methods. They confessed immediately. Everyone confessed!

a reply to: RussianTroll

Ivan the Terrible is not exactly a good advert for Russian civilisation.

The clue is in his name.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Nothing much seems to have changed.

a reply to: RussianTroll

"because he refused to become the husband of the English queen".

Other way round, actually.

You do like to "revise" history.

It's a Russian thing, apparently.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Everyone confesses under torture. To anything proposed to them.

a reply to: Kurokage

More from your link:

"A range of historians, supporting the version of the tsar’s poisoning with arsenic and mercury, believe that Ivan IV’s insistence on marrying an Englishwoman became the catalyst of his demise, since it went against the ambitions of Boris Godunov and his relatives. The tsar’s marriage with a close relative of the English queen could lead to the claim that the offspring of such a marriage had a right to the tsar’s throne – pushing aside Ivan the Terrible’s son, Fyodor Ivanovich, who was married to Godunov’s sister, Irina. It’s speculated that Godunov’s supporters “expedited” Ivan Vasilyevich’s death."

Maybe not those evil English doctors, then?

originally posted by: TimBurr
a reply to: RussianTroll

Everyone confesses under torture. To anything proposed to them.

Don't you know this? The British are pioneers in the use of torture. But sometimes the very threat of their use is an extremely effective method. Nobody tortured them, but they all confessed themselves.
I don’t remember now, but about 15 years ago the remains of Ivan the Terrible were exhumed with all the tests. There was a huge concentration of mercury in the bones. The confessions of English doctors were confirmed.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It is amazing what you can learn when a person actually posts facts and links to back their claims isn't it??