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originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: chr0naut
The meme claiming there was no sea level rise at the Sydney station was, unsuprisingly, a complete lie.
The actual historical data from the Sydney Harbour (Fort Denison) tidal guage station is available here and shows linear increase rise in low tide of ~0.76mm/yr and more recently upto 0.82mm/yr
Sydney harbour historical tidal guage data
Sydney Hardbour (Fort Denison) historical tidal guage data.
Even ignoring the raw data - the old black and white photo shows the tide being a couple of brick widths lower than the modern one in the meme and controls for things lie paralax, pressure, temperature, storms, waxing/waning of tides etc...would all have to be accounted for and controlled for the meme to be considered evidence of anything.
originally posted by: Justoneman
The science is there and there is not any C atoms floating around solo.
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: Tolkien
No.
Read the thread, slower
No, you need to understand context.
A question was asked and answered as to why greenhouse gasses don't just escape the atmosphere. Nothing more, nothing less.
Chr)naut has zero understanding of basic science.
I corrected him with facts.
Actually they said:
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements)
There was nothing to correct there. Instead you literally said :
You need to look at CO2, not carbon itself
That was you adding something, O2, that was never said to try to have a gotcha moment.
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Shoshanna
does anybody know why the greenhouse gas doesn't rise up through the atmosphere and go into space? Is it heavier than air? I probably sound dumb but I'm trying to understand this.
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
Many greenhouse gasses are lighter than air, but even the lighter ones still weigh something, and are drawn to the Earth by gravity, its just that they 'float' on top of the heavier atmosphere.
Gasses also do sublimate into space, but not particularly fast, or otherwise we'd have lost our atmosphere by now.
Incorrect.
You need to look at CO2, not carbon itself
CO2 has a density of 1.98 kg/cubic meter and is thus HEAVIER than Nitrogen at 1.2 kg/cubic meter
I never said CO2 was lighter than Nitrogen. I said a Carbon atom was lighter than a Nitrogen atom. I was referring to atomic weights for individual elements, not compounds.
Molecularly, Nitrogen molecules consist of two Nitrogen atoms. And molecularly, CO2 consists of two those two atomically heavier Oxygen atoms and a Carbon atom that makes it quite heavier than gaseous Nitrogen.
Still wrong
You don't understand atomic weights and the difference with density
Comparing a gas like Nitrogen to a solid like carbon is ridiculous.
In solid sate, carbon has a density of 2200kg/cubic metre
In solid state, Nitrogen has a density of 1027 kg/cubic metre
Nitrogen is still lighter than carbon
Depending on the allotrope, molecular carbon consists of between 4 to literally hundreds of atoms, which packs a lot of atoms into a small space, and therefore the density of a collection of lighter carbon atoms can be far greater than that of gaseous (and very loose) collection of two atom molecules of Nitrogen.
Nonsensical argument. Why don't you use the density of a neutron star while you are at it.
Sorry you are wrong
Nitrogen is lighter than CO2 and/or Carbon
Period.
But carbon atoms are lighter than nitrogen atoms, which are lighter than oxygen atoms.
Density is related to pressure in gasses, and is variable, as is the 'weight' of a gas. If you warm a gas at equal pressure, it rises up, because it is less dense, and so by volume, is lighter.
No, just NO!
I am trying to be as patient and respectful as possible, but you are pushing "flat earth arguments"
You seemingly have no understanding of basic science, even at a high school level
Density is not exclusively related to gases: you can measure density in gases, liquids and solids, at various temperatures and pressures.
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than carbon
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than CO2
For more tangible proof, look up the 1986 Lake Nyos disaster:
en.wikipedia.org...
"The eruption triggered the sudden release of about 100,000–300,000 tons (1.6 million tons, according to some sources[who?]) of carbon dioxide (CO2).[2][3] The gas cloud initially rose at nearly 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph; 28 m/s) and then, being heavier than air (and air is 70% nitrogen), descended onto nearby villages, suffocating people and livestock within 25 kilometres (16 mi) of the lake.[4][5]"
So, thousands of people died BECAUSE CO2 IS DENSER, HEAVIER THAN AIR/NITROGEN
Clear enough ?
Give it up.
You are wrong - accept it
QED
But I never wrote that CO2 is lighter than air, which is mainly nitrogen.
I wrote that atomic carbon is lighter than atomic nitrogen - and it is!
The relative weights of different compounds is basic chemistry.
Two 'heavier-than-a-nitrogen-atom' oxygen atoms, plus a 'lighter-than-a-nitrogen-atom' carbon atom, three atoms in total, with two of them heavier than nitrogen atoms, are in total heavier (at the same pressure and temperature), than two nitrogen atoms.
It is clear that what you believe I wrote, was not in fact, what I wrote.
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originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Shoshanna
does anybody know why the greenhouse gas doesn't rise up through the atmosphere and go into space? Is it heavier than air? I probably sound dumb but I'm trying to understand this.
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
Many greenhouse gasses are lighter than air, but even the lighter ones still weigh something, and are drawn to the Earth by gravity, its just that they 'float' on top of the heavier atmosphere.
Gasses also do sublimate into space, but not particularly fast, or otherwise we'd have lost our atmosphere by now.
Incorrect.
You need to look at CO2, not carbon itself
CO2 has a density of 1.98 kg/cubic meter and is thus HEAVIER than Nitrogen at 1.2 kg/cubic meter
I never said CO2 was lighter than Nitrogen. I said a Carbon atom was lighter than a Nitrogen atom. I was referring to atomic weights for individual elements, not compounds.
Molecularly, Nitrogen molecules consist of two Nitrogen atoms. And molecularly, CO2 consists of two those two atomically heavier Oxygen atoms and a Carbon atom that makes it quite heavier than gaseous Nitrogen.
Still wrong
You don't understand atomic weights and the difference with density
Comparing a gas like Nitrogen to a solid like carbon is ridiculous.
In solid sate, carbon has a density of 2200kg/cubic metre
In solid state, Nitrogen has a density of 1027 kg/cubic metre
Nitrogen is still lighter than carbon
Depending on the allotrope, molecular carbon consists of between 4 to literally hundreds of atoms, which packs a lot of atoms into a small space, and therefore the density of a collection of lighter carbon atoms can be far greater than that of gaseous (and very loose) collection of two atom molecules of Nitrogen.
Nonsensical argument. Why don't you use the density of a neutron star while you are at it.
Sorry you are wrong
Nitrogen is lighter than CO2 and/or Carbon
Period.
But carbon atoms are lighter than nitrogen atoms, which are lighter than oxygen atoms.
Density is related to pressure in gasses, and is variable, as is the 'weight' of a gas. If you warm a gas at equal pressure, it rises up, because it is less dense, and so by volume, is lighter.
No, just NO!
I am trying to be as patient and respectful as possible, but you are pushing "flat earth arguments"
You seemingly have no understanding of basic science, even at a high school level
Density is not exclusively related to gases: you can measure density in gases, liquids and solids, at various temperatures and pressures.
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than carbon
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than CO2
For more tangible proof, look up the 1986 Lake Nyos disaster:
en.wikipedia.org...
"The eruption triggered the sudden release of about 100,000–300,000 tons (1.6 million tons, according to some sources[who?]) of carbon dioxide (CO2).[2][3] The gas cloud initially rose at nearly 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph; 28 m/s) and then, being heavier than air (and air is 70% nitrogen), descended onto nearby villages, suffocating people and livestock within 25 kilometres (16 mi) of the lake.[4][5]"
So, thousands of people died BECAUSE CO2 IS DENSER, HEAVIER THAN AIR/NITROGEN
Clear enough ?
Give it up.
You are wrong - accept it
QED
But I never wrote that CO2 is lighter than air, which is mainly nitrogen.
I wrote that atomic carbon is lighter than atomic nitrogen - and it is!
The relative weights of different compounds is basic chemistry.
Two 'heavier-than-a-nitrogen-atom' oxygen atoms, plus a 'lighter-than-a-nitrogen-atom' carbon atom, three atoms in total, with two of them heavier than nitrogen atoms, are in total heavier (at the same pressure and temperature), than two nitrogen atoms.
It is clear that what you believe I wrote, was not in fact, what I wrote.
ABSOLUTE nonsense !!
Carbon is NEVER lighter than Nitrogen.
Spewing ignorance infused non-science drivel
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Shoshanna
does anybody know why the greenhouse gas doesn't rise up through the atmosphere and go into space? Is it heavier than air? I probably sound dumb but I'm trying to understand this.
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
Many greenhouse gasses are lighter than air, but even the lighter ones still weigh something, and are drawn to the Earth by gravity, its just that they 'float' on top of the heavier atmosphere.
Gasses also do sublimate into space, but not particularly fast, or otherwise we'd have lost our atmosphere by now.
Incorrect.
You need to look at CO2, not carbon itself
CO2 has a density of 1.98 kg/cubic meter and is thus HEAVIER than Nitrogen at 1.2 kg/cubic meter
I never said CO2 was lighter than Nitrogen. I said a Carbon atom was lighter than a Nitrogen atom. I was referring to atomic weights for individual elements, not compounds.
Molecularly, Nitrogen molecules consist of two Nitrogen atoms. And molecularly, CO2 consists of two those two atomically heavier Oxygen atoms and a Carbon atom that makes it quite heavier than gaseous Nitrogen.
Still wrong
You don't understand atomic weights and the difference with density
Comparing a gas like Nitrogen to a solid like carbon is ridiculous.
In solid sate, carbon has a density of 2200kg/cubic metre
In solid state, Nitrogen has a density of 1027 kg/cubic metre
Nitrogen is still lighter than carbon
Depending on the allotrope, molecular carbon consists of between 4 to literally hundreds of atoms, which packs a lot of atoms into a small space, and therefore the density of a collection of lighter carbon atoms can be far greater than that of gaseous (and very loose) collection of two atom molecules of Nitrogen.
Nonsensical argument. Why don't you use the density of a neutron star while you are at it.
Sorry you are wrong
Nitrogen is lighter than CO2 and/or Carbon
Period.
But carbon atoms are lighter than nitrogen atoms, which are lighter than oxygen atoms.
Density is related to pressure in gasses, and is variable, as is the 'weight' of a gas. If you warm a gas at equal pressure, it rises up, because it is less dense, and so by volume, is lighter.
No, just NO!
I am trying to be as patient and respectful as possible, but you are pushing "flat earth arguments"
You seemingly have no understanding of basic science, even at a high school level
Density is not exclusively related to gases: you can measure density in gases, liquids and solids, at various temperatures and pressures.
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than carbon
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than CO2
For more tangible proof, look up the 1986 Lake Nyos disaster:
en.wikipedia.org...
"The eruption triggered the sudden release of about 100,000–300,000 tons (1.6 million tons, according to some sources[who?]) of carbon dioxide (CO2).[2][3] The gas cloud initially rose at nearly 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph; 28 m/s) and then, being heavier than air (and air is 70% nitrogen), descended onto nearby villages, suffocating people and livestock within 25 kilometres (16 mi) of the lake.[4][5]"
So, thousands of people died BECAUSE CO2 IS DENSER, HEAVIER THAN AIR/NITROGEN
Clear enough ?
Give it up.
You are wrong - accept it
QED
But I never wrote that CO2 is lighter than air, which is mainly nitrogen.
I wrote that atomic carbon is lighter than atomic nitrogen - and it is!
The relative weights of different compounds is basic chemistry.
Two 'heavier-than-a-nitrogen-atom' oxygen atoms, plus a 'lighter-than-a-nitrogen-atom' carbon atom, three atoms in total, with two of them heavier than nitrogen atoms, are in total heavier (at the same pressure and temperature), than two nitrogen atoms.
It is clear that what you believe I wrote, was not in fact, what I wrote.
ABSOLUTE nonsense !!
Carbon is NEVER lighter than Nitrogen.
Spewing ignorance infused non-science drivel
Carbon: Standard atomic weight Ar°(C) = 12.011±0.002
Nitrogen: Standard atomic weight Ar°(N) = 14.007±0.001
Look it up in the periodic table.
originally posted by: Tolkien
Still NO !!
You have just proven you are just as ignorant6 as Chr0naut
Actually they said:
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
CARBON ATOMS ARE NOT LIGHTER THAN NITROGEN.
Gross misunderstanding of the perioic table and basic science like density
The reason why some materials "float above others" is due to density - lower density elements float on top of higher ensity elements.
In solid sate, carbon has a density of 2200kg/cubic metre
In solid state, Nitrogen has a density of 1027 kg/cubic metre
Nitrogen is still lighter than carbon.
Carbon NEVER "floats on top of nitrogen atoms"
originally posted by: Justoneman
I ALREADY showed you in this thread that the natural carbon can't exist as C atom like that.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Shoshanna
does anybody know why the greenhouse gas doesn't rise up through the atmosphere and go into space? Is it heavier than air? I probably sound dumb but I'm trying to understand this.
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
Many greenhouse gasses are lighter than air, but even the lighter ones still weigh something, and are drawn to the Earth by gravity, its just that they 'float' on top of the heavier atmosphere.
Gasses also do sublimate into space, but not particularly fast, or otherwise we'd have lost our atmosphere by now.
Incorrect.
You need to look at CO2, not carbon itself
CO2 has a density of 1.98 kg/cubic meter and is thus HEAVIER than Nitrogen at 1.2 kg/cubic meter
I never said CO2 was lighter than Nitrogen. I said a Carbon atom was lighter than a Nitrogen atom. I was referring to atomic weights for individual elements, not compounds.
Molecularly, Nitrogen molecules consist of two Nitrogen atoms. And molecularly, CO2 consists of two those two atomically heavier Oxygen atoms and a Carbon atom that makes it quite heavier than gaseous Nitrogen.
Still wrong
You don't understand atomic weights and the difference with density
Comparing a gas like Nitrogen to a solid like carbon is ridiculous.
In solid sate, carbon has a density of 2200kg/cubic metre
In solid state, Nitrogen has a density of 1027 kg/cubic metre
Nitrogen is still lighter than carbon
Depending on the allotrope, molecular carbon consists of between 4 to literally hundreds of atoms, which packs a lot of atoms into a small space, and therefore the density of a collection of lighter carbon atoms can be far greater than that of gaseous (and very loose) collection of two atom molecules of Nitrogen.
Nonsensical argument. Why don't you use the density of a neutron star while you are at it.
Sorry you are wrong
Nitrogen is lighter than CO2 and/or Carbon
Period.
But carbon atoms are lighter than nitrogen atoms, which are lighter than oxygen atoms.
Density is related to pressure in gasses, and is variable, as is the 'weight' of a gas. If you warm a gas at equal pressure, it rises up, because it is less dense, and so by volume, is lighter.
No, just NO!
I am trying to be as patient and respectful as possible, but you are pushing "flat earth arguments"
You seemingly have no understanding of basic science, even at a high school level
Density is not exclusively related to gases: you can measure density in gases, liquids and solids, at various temperatures and pressures.
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than carbon
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than CO2
For more tangible proof, look up the 1986 Lake Nyos disaster:
en.wikipedia.org...
"The eruption triggered the sudden release of about 100,000–300,000 tons (1.6 million tons, according to some sources[who?]) of carbon dioxide (CO2).[2][3] The gas cloud initially rose at nearly 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph; 28 m/s) and then, being heavier than air (and air is 70% nitrogen), descended onto nearby villages, suffocating people and livestock within 25 kilometres (16 mi) of the lake.[4][5]"
So, thousands of people died BECAUSE CO2 IS DENSER, HEAVIER THAN AIR/NITROGEN
Clear enough ?
Give it up.
You are wrong - accept it
QED
But I never wrote that CO2 is lighter than air, which is mainly nitrogen.
I wrote that atomic carbon is lighter than atomic nitrogen - and it is!
The relative weights of different compounds is basic chemistry.
Two 'heavier-than-a-nitrogen-atom' oxygen atoms, plus a 'lighter-than-a-nitrogen-atom' carbon atom, three atoms in total, with two of them heavier than nitrogen atoms, are in total heavier (at the same pressure and temperature), than two nitrogen atoms.
It is clear that what you believe I wrote, was not in fact, what I wrote.
ABSOLUTE nonsense !!
Carbon is NEVER lighter than Nitrogen.
Spewing ignorance infused non-science drivel
Carbon: Standard atomic weight Ar°(C) = 12.011±0.002
Nitrogen: Standard atomic weight Ar°(N) = 14.007±0.001
Look it up in the periodic table.
No, not true just because of the atomic number and weight.
I ALREADY showed you in this thread that the natural carbon can't exist as C atom like that. Carbon is not a gas like O2 or N2 anyway. It is found in a solid attached to a chain of other atoms and likes to have other carbon atoms in its molecules. The Carbon Atom is ready to react to other atoms and most molecules known to man. We use it to purify things for one example because it will absorb a lot of things. CO2 is a gas and it is heavier than N2 and it can combine in plants to make solids again.
As a grad student I taught this type of thing to the freshman in lab class experiments.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Tolkien
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Shoshanna
does anybody know why the greenhouse gas doesn't rise up through the atmosphere and go into space? Is it heavier than air? I probably sound dumb but I'm trying to understand this.
The Earth's atmosphere is mostly Nitrogen. Carbon atoms are lighter than Nitrogen, and Nitrogen atoms are lighter than Oxygen, which is lighter than Fluorine Atoms (You can see the atomic weights of atoms in the Periodic Table of Elements).
Many greenhouse gasses are lighter than air, but even the lighter ones still weigh something, and are drawn to the Earth by gravity, its just that they 'float' on top of the heavier atmosphere.
Gasses also do sublimate into space, but not particularly fast, or otherwise we'd have lost our atmosphere by now.
Incorrect.
You need to look at CO2, not carbon itself
CO2 has a density of 1.98 kg/cubic meter and is thus HEAVIER than Nitrogen at 1.2 kg/cubic meter
I never said CO2 was lighter than Nitrogen. I said a Carbon atom was lighter than a Nitrogen atom. I was referring to atomic weights for individual elements, not compounds.
Molecularly, Nitrogen molecules consist of two Nitrogen atoms. And molecularly, CO2 consists of two those two atomically heavier Oxygen atoms and a Carbon atom that makes it quite heavier than gaseous Nitrogen.
Still wrong
You don't understand atomic weights and the difference with density
Comparing a gas like Nitrogen to a solid like carbon is ridiculous.
In solid sate, carbon has a density of 2200kg/cubic metre
In solid state, Nitrogen has a density of 1027 kg/cubic metre
Nitrogen is still lighter than carbon
Depending on the allotrope, molecular carbon consists of between 4 to literally hundreds of atoms, which packs a lot of atoms into a small space, and therefore the density of a collection of lighter carbon atoms can be far greater than that of gaseous (and very loose) collection of two atom molecules of Nitrogen.
Nonsensical argument. Why don't you use the density of a neutron star while you are at it.
Sorry you are wrong
Nitrogen is lighter than CO2 and/or Carbon
Period.
But carbon atoms are lighter than nitrogen atoms, which are lighter than oxygen atoms.
Density is related to pressure in gasses, and is variable, as is the 'weight' of a gas. If you warm a gas at equal pressure, it rises up, because it is less dense, and so by volume, is lighter.
No, just NO!
I am trying to be as patient and respectful as possible, but you are pushing "flat earth arguments"
You seemingly have no understanding of basic science, even at a high school level
Density is not exclusively related to gases: you can measure density in gases, liquids and solids, at various temperatures and pressures.
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than carbon
For a given temperature and pressure, nitrogen is always lighter than CO2
For more tangible proof, look up the 1986 Lake Nyos disaster:
en.wikipedia.org...
"The eruption triggered the sudden release of about 100,000–300,000 tons (1.6 million tons, according to some sources[who?]) of carbon dioxide (CO2).[2][3] The gas cloud initially rose at nearly 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph; 28 m/s) and then, being heavier than air (and air is 70% nitrogen), descended onto nearby villages, suffocating people and livestock within 25 kilometres (16 mi) of the lake.[4][5]"
So, thousands of people died BECAUSE CO2 IS DENSER, HEAVIER THAN AIR/NITROGEN
Clear enough ?
Give it up.
You are wrong - accept it
QED
But I never wrote that CO2 is lighter than air, which is mainly nitrogen.
I wrote that atomic carbon is lighter than atomic nitrogen - and it is!
The relative weights of different compounds is basic chemistry.
Two 'heavier-than-a-nitrogen-atom' oxygen atoms, plus a 'lighter-than-a-nitrogen-atom' carbon atom, three atoms in total, with two of them heavier than nitrogen atoms, are in total heavier (at the same pressure and temperature), than two nitrogen atoms.
It is clear that what you believe I wrote, was not in fact, what I wrote.
ABSOLUTE nonsense !!
Carbon is NEVER lighter than Nitrogen.
Spewing ignorance infused non-science drivel
Carbon: Standard atomic weight Ar°(C) = 12.011±0.002
Nitrogen: Standard atomic weight Ar°(N) = 14.007±0.001
Look it up in the periodic table.
No, not true just because of the atomic number and weight.
I ALREADY showed you in this thread that the natural carbon can't exist as C atom like that. Carbon is not a gas like O2 or N2 anyway. It is found in a solid attached to a chain of other atoms and likes to have other carbon atoms in its molecules. The Carbon Atom is ready to react to other atoms and most molecules known to man. We use it to purify things for one example because it will absorb a lot of things. CO2 is a gas and it is heavier than N2 and it can combine in plants to make solids again.
As a grad student I taught this type of thing to the freshman in lab class experiments.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: chr0naut
The meme claiming there was no sea level rise at the Sydney station was, unsuprisingly, a complete lie.
The actual historical data from the Sydney Harbour (Fort Denison) tidal guage station is available here and shows linear increase rise in low tide of ~0.76mm/yr and more recently upto 0.82mm/yr
Sydney harbour historical tidal guage data
Sydney Hardbour (Fort Denison) historical tidal guage data.
Even ignoring the raw data - the old black and white photo shows the tide being a couple of brick widths lower than the modern one in the meme and controls for things lie paralax, pressure, temperature, storms, waxing/waning of tides etc...would all have to be accounted for and controlled for the meme to be considered evidence of anything.
So why are the elected officials world wide apparently buying up coastal properties if they believe the property will be gone in 10 years?
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Justoneman
I'm a computer nerd, so not a scientist at all. That's why I'm asking for proof I can see and verify. I do appreciate your input, and that of anyone who is in the fields of science.
And to all others, I don't mean to be adversarial on this, I don't have the answers, I'm trying to find them. But being an ass is hard to turn off once it's on.