What Happens After?

Ok, So I did some searching around and I cant really find the explanation I am looking for. I will start by saying I firmly believe that the next election will be so full of cheating that it will be in your face and obvious. The last election had enough for anyone with any common sense to question it but yet here we are. It was overlooked by those in power and those with the ability to do anything about it. At the same time we are not the same society we were 200 years ago. We are not going to pick up weapons and march on the capital. They have sissified most of the younger generations and the rest do not have any real power to effect change.

I believe after the election we are going to be left with two choices.

Choice #1 Accept the cheating and hope we can survive the next 4 years, or longer because if they get away with again it will never end. Every election from this point on will be cheated and opponents will be subject to lawfare and kangaroo courts. We will truly become a two class society and the government will now own us. There will be nothing to stop it.

Choice #2 The American population does something about it. We take those constitutional rights that they have not been able to take away and we use them for their intended purpose. The citizens take up arms and we fix what is broken.

So the question truly is this. What does that look like? How does it start and who has the power to organize and make that work correctly? Obviously Joe Schmo in the suburbs isn't going to be grabbing and AR and shooting up his neighbors house. So where does this start? Is it high ranking military? Is it a convention of states? Is it a few governors succeeding their states from the union? Should it come to something like that, how does it start and who starts it? I am asking a real question because I do believe it is a real possibility but it cant just be militia mobs running around their cities. Someone has to take charge and organize whatever it is.

a reply to: TheTardis2

Nice try FBI, you would be better off joining antifa discord or better yet, your own email chains. If you want to find somebody organizing a so called "insurrection".

a reply to: TheTardis2

Trigerhappy expats will seal the faith of the us... And although many will be cheering them on they'll soon realize that they are digging a grave for the whole of the US to RIP...

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: TheTardis2

Nice try FBI, you would be better off joining antifa discord or better yet, your own email chains. If you want to find somebody organizing a so called "insurrection".

Sorry to burst your bubble but some people would actually like to know what a modern version of this scenario looks like because our current regime is completely and totally corrupt and will stop at absolutely nothing to stay in power. They are saying the quiet parts out loud now and they do not care if we hear it. You can keep your head buried in the sand and keep hating the Orange man while the country burns or you can pull your head out and prepare for whatever happens.

a reply to: TheTardis2

Or like....choice 3, nobody needs arms. I mean ya I have arms. But sheer number of average joes. If we all stop participating and do our own thing, helping each other building a real community of millions and billions of regular people we all just stop participating in the entire made up fake society and system they have made that clearly doesn't work. we might not agree on everything but do agree that all the power in the world probably shouldn't be in the hands of like 1300 extremely wealthy, mostly extremely old, extremely elite people.

Think about 300 million people marching across America for change. Hands across America style. Just all of us vs. 1300 of them. Peacefully.

originally posted by: Shoshanna
a reply to: TheTardis2

Or like....choice 3, nobody needs arms. I mean ya I have arms. But sheer number of average joes. If we all stop participating and do our own thing, helping each other building a real community of millions and billions of regular people we all just stop participating in the entire made up fake society and system they have made that clearly doesn't work. we might not agree on everything but do agree that all the power in the world probably shouldn't be in the hands of like 1300 extremely wealthy, mostly extremely old, extremely elite people.

Think about 300 million people marching across America for change. Hands across America style. Just all of us vs. 1300 of them. Peacefully.

Communism has never really worked anywhere. The futuristic ideas that everyone just shares everything and works for the sheer enjoyment doesn't work. No one wants to clean the toilets or do the garbage work so you will always have someone or some group in charge. The only way that works is in a dictatorship and that only works until the people get fed up with it. We are not enlightened enough for the futurist star trek type society where money doesn't exist and people aren't lazy or power hungry. That would be great if we were but we are not there.

Change does not start at the top. It starts at the bottom.

Well yes, we could take to arms and storm the castle. But we will not have anything close to what we want in the end.

The best course of action is unite as a people and vote out those who are doing this. It is tout up our own candidates locally and leading by example. It is holding those who are in power now accountable for their actions.

But that can't happen until we unite, all of us.

Why do you think they like to divide us by race, gender, etc?

Hint, it is not just for votes. They are, rightly so, afraid of the population if we unite.

a reply to: TheTardis2

What Happens After?

Nothing happens, all the keyboard warrior's go back to complaining about comotose Joe and grifter Trump keeps ranting about losing.
Some random idiots on both sides do stupid things, and then hopefully real Americans get a better choice the next go around.

a reply to: TheTardis2

Well last time Biden got 81 million votes...
He didn't have 81 million voters but that's another story...

What goes down this time...🤔

We can look back over the last few years and see a lot of what's been called peaceful protesting instead of what it actually was.. riots and looting in the name of whatever fake outrage is in fashion.
When something actually starts to happen it won't be some organized event, it will be some trained individuals who have lost everything going out on their own to end the people they blame for their losses.
Honestly I'm surprised family court judges and lawyers haven't already been targeted. Time is running out in my opinion and politicians will be next on the list.

What will start things off?
Who will act out?
Don't know.. but it will happen.

It is going to be a tense election with the growing political divide and desperation going on. With the population learning what Biden is about the hard way, it is going to be tougher and more blatant to steal it again. If you want to be part of a civilized community, we do have to be civil in how we go about it. In an immediate life threating situation, do what you have too to survive. Otherwise, support those doing the right thing, call out those not.

If things go FUBAR, it is usually when the food and economic system crashes. Some people will start to go nuts in three days, others will take longer. Maybe this is what those in power want as they lurk in their shelters waiting for the chaos to settle down and rebuild from the remains? Anyone would have to be nuts to try and invade America. But put enough disruptions in place and the chain reaction will burn through a lot of the nation.

Even if the Nation survives election day, it still has to hold it together until the inauguration. I know there is evil in this world, but I do see most people do try to do the right thing. Hopefully there is still enough sanity in the system to keep things running. Keep calm and carry on.

originally posted by: TheTardis2

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: TheTardis2

Nice try FBI, you would be better off joining antifa discord or better yet, your own email chains. If you want to find somebody organizing a so called "insurrection".

Sorry to burst your bubble but some people would actually like to know what a modern version of this scenario looks like because our current regime is completely and totally corrupt and will stop at absolutely nothing to stay in power. They are saying the quiet parts out loud now and they do not care if we hear it. You can keep your head buried in the sand and keep hating the Orange man while the country burns or you can pull your head out and prepare for whatever happens.

That's fine but preparing doesn't mean war. It means developing all of your resources at home and feeding your family/community by what you make or grow on your own property. Guns are for protecting what you own, if they come knocking on your door and begin seizing your property. There is no constitutional right to march to the white house and lay siege.

a reply to: TheTardis2

Choice 3: Though you're probably going to win (up in almost all swing states), realize the election was not stolen if you lost, and enough American people are actually capable of voting for the incapable Joe Biden a second time.

Like in 2020, people will gravitate left when rights issues come up. Or rights issues plus social cabin fever.

I still think the biggest myth is any of these deciding social factors NEEDED anything covert to pull off. It just needs a perfect storm of social discontent and stir crazy. After the temporary insanity wore off we were left with a vacationing senile president that may be using "votes of asylum seekers" as part of a reelection bid.

There's another thing to consider though.

When the mostly Trump-aligned GOP makes their vote heard against the popular opinion, is there anything that could possibly sway the election outcome that is not really being considered again? * vulgar

USA Today Opinion

a reply to: TheTardis2


Joe Biden in less than a minute:

- Said Americans would need F-15s to resist his tyrannical government (You wouldn't)
- Claimed the firearm industry is the only industry with immunity (They aren't)
- Claimed that guns kill more children than car accidents and cancer combined (They don't)
- Got the name of the federal agency responsible for gun control wrong (AFT)
- Claims he was a professor at UPenn, which he never was
- Claims he taught a constitutional law class on the second amendment, which he never did
- Says that you couldn't own a cannon when 2A was implemented, which you could
- And ends by failing miserably to say the phrase "the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of patriots"

a reply to: TheTardis2

because our current regime is completely and totally corrupt and will stop at absolutely nothing to stay in power.

That could be said of the former regime.


If you're hoping for a Civil War should Trump get beaten again and "The citizens take up arms and we fix what is broken" then it will look bad . really bad.

You guys really need to grow up a little , you're starting to sound like the "Leftists" you rail against.

a reply to: Degradation33

Election fraud has now been proven in Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania in the key counties that swayed the state's results in numbers that exceeded the margin of victory.

No States are preventing women from getting contraceptives.

The Bill was voted down because it was pointless. More laws are not needed.

Please stop believing every piece of nonsense propaganda you come across.

originally posted by: TheTardis2
Someone has to take charge and organize whatever it is.

If Trump wins I'm sure the left will melt down and take to the streets, burning buildings down and looting, calling it peaceful protest and free speech.

If Biden wins you will hear a lot of whining and that's about it. The right doesn't ever actually do anything. They just pout and call for people to 'do something', but they never say what that something is and nothing ever gets done.

a reply to: watchitburn

That's an impressive meme.

This is an excerpt from the Wikipedia page about the 1992 election... this is why how many and which states Kennedy Jr. is on the ballot will likely have an effect. The margins are so close. In the last election, it came down to a dozen or so districts in the battleground states.

As for the civil war bullchit, it isn't going to happen, the first side that completely loses thier rationality, loses. The unheard masses the independents and the undecided are sick of living on the edge of chaos. IT DOES NOTHING BUT SERVE countries completely against America.

Cool your damn engines and go vote, encourage all your friends and family to vote, we still had over 40 million eligible voters who didn't vote in 2020.

Our politicians weren't supposed to be rock stars and we weren't supposed to agree 100% on everything, it's why states' rights are so important, especially when nationally we can't agree on any issue. LOL and we damn sure weren't supposed to spend millions on ads to elect these azzhats, saw the Biden campaign ad in JUNE!!!! have no doubt Trump ones will follow. Do the repetitive ads convince anybody, or is it conditional training

en.wikipedia.org...

Perot won 18.9% of the popular vote, the highest share of the vote won by a candidate outside of the two major parties since 1912. Although he failed to win any electoral votes, he finished second in two states (behind Bush in Utah and behind Clinton in Maine) and found significant support in every state, resulting in no state giving an absolute majority to any candidate except Clinton's home state of Arkansas. As such, this is the final election to date in which the Democratic nominee won less than 50% of the vote in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont; and in which the Republican nominee won less than 50% in Alabama, Alaska, Idaho, Kansas, and Nebraska. It is also the third and final election since the Civil War in which a Republican or Democratic nominee failed to break 50% in a single state (with the exception of Arkansas), the first two being 1912 for William Howard Taft and 1984 for Walter Mondale. As of 2023, this is the last time that either a Democratic or Republican candidate received less than 40% of the popular vote.

www.usatoday.com...

www.nytimes.com...

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: watchitburn

That's an impressive meme.

I take pride in stealing only the highest quality memes.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: TheTardis2

because our current regime is completely and totally corrupt and will stop at absolutely nothing to stay in power.

That could be said of the former regime.

If you're hoping for a Civil War should Trump get beaten again and "The citizens take up arms and we fix what is broken" then it will look bad . really bad.

You guys really need to grow up a little , you're starting to sound like the "Leftists" you rail against.

Yes, it was obvious when January 20'th rolled around and Trump barricaded himself in the oval office and the military had to come extract him so Joetatoe could move in. When DERPing, be sure not to get any on you.