Three Israeli Hostages Held by Al Jazeera Journalist and His Family In Their Home in Gaza

posted by: CarlLaFong[/post]

originally posted by: ToneD

Do you stand with the real orthodox-jews or
the european illegal settlers, with no dna related to Abraham ?



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It sounds a lot like you're judging the value of people by their DNA.

The semantics was intentionally missed on your part ? ?
Let me clarify it for you . . .
Unless a person is an orthodox practising jew, OR has
direct ancestral lineage . . claiming rights in israel/palestine is faux pas.
Especially when their mother tongue is ENGLISH Lol !
Actually these people have more legal rights than
english-speaking-white settlers >

The invisibility of Palestinian Christians
mondoweiss.net...#:~:text=Palestinian%20Christians%20suffer%20from%20a,they%20are%20a%20 %22minority.%22


Teybeh a Christian Palestinian Village
en.wikipedia.org...

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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: ToneD
Re: DBCOWB
Serious question:
Do you think zelensky should legally own land in srael too ? ?

Do you stand with the real orthodox-jews or
the european illegal settlers, with no dna related to Abraham ?

Which are you >
x.com...

The irony is, most people that argue and support genocide
ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH, not aramaic, not hebrew, not even arabic.
twisted ? I'd say so. sick.


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You cannot answer a simple question.

You can toss up walls of texts, but you do not believe that Israel should be a sovereign state.

Which is fine.

Many Nazi's also feel that way.

It’s a pay grade thingy. From shoulder up or down?

a reply to: ToneD

Just wondering exactly what gives you the right to determine the criteria for who is or is not a legitimate settler and/or citizen of Israel?

Whether you like it or not - it seems apparent that you don't like it - Israel is going nowhere. They have a right to govern themselves, set their own laws and defend themselves.
They also have the right to decide who can or can not live there.

a reply to: Freeborn

Not sure what criteria the other poster is using but illegal settlers is a recognised international term for the tiny minoririty of Israeli extremists who illegally steal land and houses in the West Bank against international law. Most countries including US and UK consider them illegal and sanction them for violent extremism and they were also ilegal under Israeli law until last year.

They're generally hated by most Israeli's as they're millitants who go out of their way to cause violence, there were huge protests in Israel against the governent lifting the ban - though there does seems to be a lot of anti-Israeli types trying to present it as if Israelis not in the illegally constructed/stolen homes in West Bank come under the umbrella.

There's only around 100 active militant Israeli settlers and they've been holding raves and blocking roads for the last few months to stop aid trucks entering Gaza. Their numbers are completely dwarfed by normal Israeli's who just want peace and the government aren't backing their calls to resettle Gaza as the IDF don't support it and would seriously damage Israels relations with its allies.


Hilltop Youth and Lehava are the main groups the UK sanctions and designates extremist groups as they state their aim to expell all Palestinians from occupied territory and fascilitate, incite and promote violence against all Arab and Palestinian communities and have killed around 300 civilians in the West Bank since Oct 7th to illegally steal the land in four small towns in West Bank.

a reply to: bastion

I understand the point and distinction you are making between The West Bank and Israel itself.
But the member seems to be implying that only Orthodox Jews and those with direct ancestry to Israel have a right to be there.
What exactly he means by that seems unclear but my taking on his posts are that he believes all Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews - descendants from the Jewish diaspora - have no right to be there.

I might be wrong.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: bastion


But the member seems to be implying that only Orthodox Jews and those with direct ancestry to Israel have a right to be there.

Is that what the Israeli constitution says? Vs the Original Hamas character.

originally posted by: bastion
a reply to: Freeborn

Not sure what criteria the other poster is using but illegal settlers is a recognised international term for the tiny minoririty of Israeli extremists who illegally steal land and houses in the West Bank against international law. .

How did Isreal end up with the West Bank and Gaza. Would you like to give an account?

a reply to: Lazy88

# Hamas.

originally posted by: ToneD
Do you stand with the real orthodox-jews or
the european illegal settlers, with no dna related to Abraham ?

It doesn't matter if the Jews are orthodox or if their ancestors lived in Europe or anywhere else. They are in Israel legally and Israel exists. Learn to deal with it.

Oh .. and Abraham probably never actually existed. There is no evidence to support the story of Abraham. Abraham supposedly existed 2,000 BC and the Old Testament wasn't written down until 700 BC. That's 1300 years between when he supposedly existed and when the story was written down. The chances of it being historically accurate are about ZERO.

And that story of Abraham is IRRELEVANT in 2024 AD anyways.

Anyways . . .
the club of freaks who want Genocide

That would be YOU. YOU called Hamas 'freedom fighters', and Hamas and the 'palestinians' are the ones calling for the genocide of the Jews whereas the Jews are NOT calling for the genocide of the Muslims.

a reply to: bastion

Louis Theroux did a documentary about the Israeli extremists.

Louis Theroux spends time with a small and very committed subculture of ultra-nationalist Jewish settlers. He discovers a group of people who consider it their religious and political obligation to populate some of the most sensitive areas of the West Bank, especially those with a spiritual significance dating back to the Bible.

Throughout his journey, Louis gets close to the people most involved with driving the extreme end of the Jewish settler movement - finding them warm, friendly, humorous, and deeply troubling.

BBC iPlayer
I found the episode very disturbing.
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: ToneD
The irony is, most people that argue and support genocide
ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH, not aramaic, not hebrew, not even arabic.
twisted ? I'd say so. sick.

The irony is, you are dead wrong. Just like you were dead wrong
when you falsely claimed that the hostages were in better shape
after their release from captivity then they were before they were
taken hostage. Nothing you say is ever true.

Twisted? I'd say so. Sick. (your words back atchya).

a reply to: angelchemuel

A you answer how Israel ended with the West Bank and Gaza?

a reply to: Lazy88

No, just some supporting evidence to Bastion's post.
Have you watched said documentary?
Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

You have no clue how Isreal ended up with the West Bank and Gaza.

Why would I post this, why not have the West Bank and Gaza go back to the county Egypt?

a reply to: Lazy88

Since resolution 181 of the United Nations General Assembly was voted on November 29, 1947.

The History of Palestine Occupation

A you answer how Israel ended with the West Bank and Gaza?

How do you answer your question?

a reply to: Lazy88

Why would I post this, why not have the West Bank and Gaza go back to the county Egypt?

Strange argument, do we return everything to the apes from which we descend?

Those of you who defend that in the Middle East, are you aware that in the land where your homes sit, there were other people there before? Would you defend them throwing you and your family out of your home under the guise of, "my ancestors were there before"?

While the argument is strange, it is an argument that if it turned against you, you would not have wanted to defend it.

a reply to: Vetton

I didn’t say return anything. It’s to drive home that Israel got the West Bank and Gaza as a spoil of war from Egypt. They didn’t “steal” them from the Palestinians.

It’s fun to watch the Hamas supporters try to avoid the issue.

a reply to: Vetton

Still didn’t answer the question. How did Israel end up with the West Bank and Gaza.

Can you use your words.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: bastion

Louis Theroux did a documentary about the Israeli extremists.

Louis Theroux spends time with a small and very committed subculture of ultra-nationalist Jewish settlers. He discovers a group of people who consider it their religious and political obligation to populate some of the most sensitive areas of the West Bank, especially those with a spiritual significance dating back to the Bible.

Throughout his journey, Louis gets close to the people most involved with driving the extreme end of the Jewish settler movement - finding them warm, friendly, humorous, and deeply troubling.

BBC iPlayer
I found the episode very disturbing.
Rainbows
Jane

That is not good. In the US the old "Hatfield and Mccoy" family feud was real. This has turned into a horrible game of getting even. There is no getting even. This is a prime example of why instead of people doing nasty things to innocents for their "sins" or whatever reason in their sick little minds tell them, we are supposed to remember to let God handle it. Wartime is horrid, but doing that kind of evil is just as wrong as how Haman treats innocents. Neither of those groups are worthy of ascension to a higher, kinder realm where evil doesn't rule and love does.

a reply to: Justoneman

At least Israel has a constitution, like to name what’s wrong in that constitution. Vs Hamas? What exactly does Hamas have?