Socialist Democrats Allege They Are Saving The Nation By Repeatedly Violating The US Constitution

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: chr0naut

Yours is an interesting viewpoint. Question for you...

I can imagine, and have even contemplated as much, a place where I could reside and just watch the splendors of the country every day from my front porch. A place where the birds sing, and the sky is blue. I know of this place, a place far away from all the country's troubles. By my estimation, I could live out my remaining days in just such a place, though it would be a photo finish before the outside world caught up to me. I would never pick up a newspaper, or turn on a television, or ever connect to the internet. I would be completely oblivious to the outside world beyond my stretch of ground. But could you live out the rest of your days in such a place knowing, while you are insulated from all those things going on in the world, that all those things are still going on? Would you feel no guilt or remorse? Guilt that you had entered a foot race to the reaper's doorstep which you will win (narrowly) in your insulated splendor knowing full well that the world around you which you are insulated from, and all future generations, will be not permitted the same fate?

I hope that by having been in the world and by taking part in political process, and in education, and science, and charity, and by not adding to crime and fraud, I will leave a legacy that will stand to right a few wrongs and preserve 'the good'.

I am horrified at the atrocities that people commit, but overall, God must see something worthwhile in the human race, that He will both provide forgiveness, and, in general, leave us to 'work things out' on our own, with just the gentlest of assists in the right direction.

I do think that we have a duty of care. That does not qualify us to bear false witness against those with whom we disagree. We should be peacemakers, careful administrators, and wise stewards of what we were given.

originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: chr0naut

God blessed America until we turned from Him in the 60s.

It's funny how that is the same time period (60's - 70's) that the MAGA crowd allude to as being America's 'greatness'. Cognitive dissonance for the Bible belt MAGA crowd, eh?

The mess we are in, is because we turned our back on Him.

Yes, this world is beautiful, I enjoy the beauty every chance I get...especially on the golf course.

But we as a people, have become ugly.

If we as a nation, humble ourselves and reach out to God in sincerity, we can become a shining light on the hill again.

Otherwise, our country is lost.

All nations, in all of this world, started out as lost in sin.

America was founded in slavery, acquisitiveness, genocide and crime. The old west was claimed by force of arms and the rest of the country went to war with factions of itself. Factions that survive to this day, morphed into extremist causes.

When was the country not lost?

originally posted by: ADVISOR
a reply to: StoutBroux

Fact of the matter is, we are not a democracy.

Most of us have brains big enough to know that having a Constitution, and a republic, does not exclude democracy.

In fact, Republics have the problem that they are always run by an elite class, using the wealth provided by the labour of a middle/worker class, and the poor are forever ignored. That and the problem that historically, the biggest and strongest republics all fall to totalitarian dictatorships under various emperors.

But think of it...

A democratic constitutional socially-moderated-capitalist republic! America is almost there, all they have to do is remove the embedded elites and elect administrators on the basis of their proven administrative and compassionate capabilities.

It would be like a collection of the best of all things, not letting the minority loose their voice, and also not letting an elite take the world under their control.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

There's a case for that too.

Though I may further diverge from your opinion by saying I think it's 1936 in today's example. False Flag as the Stolen election + liberal scapegoat + an oppressed leader held from greatness.

The right is doing Hitler, the left is doing Mao

I don't see the socialist as fascist. Revolućion is more geared towards the people instilling the dictator rather than the dictator instilling the people.

Biden's more a Communist dictator than a fascist one. More like a Xi Jinping without awareness.

What bugs me is the liberal democrats have pushed an agenda which scapegoated them as apex leftists steeped in Trotsky drivel. Oppressive woke forcing worship at rainbow equality altars. And so far, the results of the pushback really seems to go after women instead of the woke.

That SOTU rebuttal somehow topped Pelosi's imfamous Sinead O'Connor rebuttal in cringe and I didn't appreciate this years breathy message. I swear the subtext of the republican response was, "No more personal right to autonomy, now get back in the kitchen and breed children like your suppose to."

The fear of Christian Nationism is the fear it seeks to undo several decades of liberation.

I have found peace in reverting state rights, simply because it's a contentious issue not all woman agree on, so "pro choice" actually has the most compatible position in states rights and not federal mandate.

But if it goes the way of ANY FEDERAL Christian Nationalist sponsored ban, everything is off the table.

a reply to: chr0naut

Chaos:
Whether one believes the Big Bang theory or the Creationist theory, this universe was created in chaos. Whether we were created on this planet by happenstance or by divine creation, most of humanity has always striven to seek their own tranquil space sealed off from the chaos that prevails around them. In many cases, many are successful in shielding themselves from chaos for a time but that ever-present state across the universe remains. Eventually, that ever-present ever-persistent chaos invariably breaks through our self-created tranquility and wreaks havoc with our microscopic utopian reality.

There is nothing in this universe that can prevent this infiltration, for this entire creation is chaos. How one deals with it, if it is even within one's power, is the ever-present challenge of humanity.

As a species, at the present, humanity is failing.

Chaos continues unabated.

originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: chr0naut

Chaos:
Whether one believes the Big Bang theory or the Creationist theory, this universe was created in chaos. Whether we were created on this planet by happenstance or by divine creation, most of humanity has always striven to seek their own tranquil space sealed off from the chaos that prevails around them. In many cases, many are successful in shielding themselves from chaos for a time but that ever-present state across the universe remains. Eventually, that ever-present ever-persistent chaos invariably breaks through our self-created tranquility and wreaks havoc with our microscopic utopian reality.

There is nothing in this universe that can prevent this infiltration, for this entire creation is chaos. How one deals with it, if it is even within one's power, is the ever-present challenge of humanity.

As a species, at the present, humanity is failing.

Chaos continues unabated.

If things started in chaos, and all things tend towards chaos over time, how is there such incredible implicate order right now?

Do you see the cognitive dissonance involved if you assume that life, physics and the current states of matter are emergent?

a reply to: chr0naut

there such incredible implicate order right now?
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You have got to be joking!

What fantasy world are you living in?

I'm talking the human condition here.

Oh well, to each their own.

Let's wait for the next Carrington event or Yellowstone to erupt again and reevaluate our positions here.

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originally posted by: charlest2
a reply to: chr0naut

there such incredible implicate order right now?

You have got to be joking!

What fantasy world are you living in?

I'm talking the human condition here.

Oh well, to each their own.

Let's wait for the next Carrington event or Yellowstone to erupt again and revaluate our positions here.

We don't have to wait for some sort of rare disaster, if you start something from a point where everything is chaotic. And then you apply a rule that everything only tends towards more chaos and randomization. How do get order.

Consider when you mix two parts of a cocktail in a drink, you don't get a variety of outcomes, you only get the mix of its parts.

Yet look at all the atomic elements you get from four forces and six quarks. And then look at how many molecular compounds you get from them. Then look at the number of unique structures that come from that. Entropy doesn't drive variety. It mixes and smears all the colours to a uniform beige.

Yet take a look around you. The human condition is incredibly complex and deeply ordered. That is why we can do science. Because reality is ordered and follows rules we can discover and stuff we can measure and that repeats - implicate order.