Ancient Ireland Megalithic Passage Tombs and Buildings

NEWGRANGE PASSAGE TOMB

In Ireland, most amazing places covered in carvings. Art, spirals etc.

Newgrange was built by Stone Age farmers, the mound is 85m (279ft) in diameter and 13m (43ft) high, an area of about 1 acre. A passage measuring 19m (62ft) leads into a chamber with 3 alcoves. The passage and chamber are aligned with the rising sun on the mornings around the Winter Solstice. Access to the Newgrange monument is via the Brú na Bóinne Visitors Centre.

Newgrange is a Stone Age (Neolithic) monument in the Boyne Valley, County Meath, it is the jewel in the crown of Ireland's Ancient East. Newgrange was constructed about 5,200 years ago (3,200 B.C.) which makes it older than Stonehenge and the Great Pyramids of Giza. The mound is ringed by 97 large kerbstones, some of which are engraved with symbols called megalithic art; the most striking is the entrance stone.

Another equally amazing spot 2km away from there is KNOWTH

The Knowth site consists of a large mound (Site 1) and 18 smaller satellite mounds. The large mound covering a hectare contains two passages, placed along an east-west line. The passages are independent of each other and each lead to a burial chamber. The eastern passage leads to a cruciform chamber, similar to that found at Newgrange. It contains three recesses and basin stones into which the cremated remains of the dead may have been placed. The western passage ends in an undifferentiated chamber (rectangular chamber). This chamber is separated from the passage by a sillstone.
The entire mound is encircled by 127 kerbstones, many of which are decorated with megalithic art. The Knowth site contains a third of the of megalithic art in all Western Europe
Over 200 decorated stones were found during excavations at Knowth. Many of the motifs found at Knowth are typical; spirals, lozenges and concentric circles. However, the megalithic art at Knowth contains a wide variety of images, such as crescent shapes. Some of the artwork was carved on backs of the stones, these stones could have been reused or maybe the builders intended the artwork to be hidden.

Another passage tomb but with smaller "cairns". Rooms, huts, if you like. You cant enter Knowth but you can stand on top of it. WOW!

You can see for 40km panoramic view 360 degrees. Amazing.

Ancient Ireland is full of passage tombs, dolmens, megalithic buildings etc.

Im off to MACHA (pronounced Mocka) in a couple of weeks. Really looking forward to this one.

Macha (Irish pronunciation: [ˈmˠaxə]) was a sovereignty goddess[1][2] of ancient Ireland associated with the province of Ulster, particularly the sites of Navan Fort (Eamhain Mhacha)[3] and Armagh (Ard Mhacha),[4] which are named after her.[5] Several figures called Macha appear in Irish mythology and folklore, all believed to derive from the same goddess.
She is said to be one of three sisters known as 'the three Morrígna'. Like other sovereignty goddesses, Macha is associated with the land, fertility, kingship, war and horses.[6] Proinsias Mac Cana discusses three Machas: Macha wife of Nemed, Queen Macha wife of Cimbáeth, and Macha wife of Crunnchu who caused the debility of the Ulstermen.[6] Gregory Toner discusses four, with the addition of Macha Mong Ruad.[

Love Ireland, The Most Beautiful of Countries.

I went to Newgrange Ireland last year

The guides kept telling us not to touch the carvings on the outside wall. Spirals, circles, art etc.

So when he wasn't there i went straight to a spiral and rubbed my hands on it, then lay against it. Arms and legs spread eagled on it. Closed my eyes and told The Universe "im here now".

A girl with me was standing there with her hands open up in the air, eyes closed doing the same thing but not touching the spirals.

Immediately i started feeling powerful. POWERFUL like a huge ball of energy coming into me.

So in the car home i was pumped up like a lunatic. "that was frickin' amazing. Whoo that was brilliant. Did youz get that energy etc" Man for a week every day i was feeling ultra amazing, like i downloaded some form of love/power/knowledgeable strength.

I kept on and on about how amazing, how powerful i felt to anyone that would listen. Told them i was all over a spiral on Newgrange.

ALL over the World ancient man carved spirals. I now believe this may be a reason why.

It was mega-thastic. Super powerful. My brain activity was clarity like never before.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge2

Our ancestors were so smart , kind of makes you wonder what went wrong through the millennia , that the entrance is lined up for the Winter solstice , a time of rebirth and renewal shows just how smart these guys were and their understanding of their world and place in it.

The Neolithic must have been a great time to be alive , I envy them their natural existence and freedom to live in harmony with nature.



Inside the Passage Tomb.

I find it hard to believe that simple 'stone age farmers' created such fantastic sites, like they had nothing better to do in their off-season time.

I think archeologists are missing huge pieces of the puzzle, and maybe on the wrong trail alltogether.

Love your thread, SecretKnowledge!

a reply to: nugget1

First thing I noticed in this thread is the 43 ft dimensional referance.
Is this not obviously a 4 pi R cubed reference like the Greek Pantheon?
Back in the day 5000 years ago women had more time to obsess about these things.
And the almost 30 GP reference that Poe died for..
Maybe it was the valet?

a reply to: SecretKnowledge2

Even though I've never been to Newgrange, I love reading about the myths and legends connected with the place.
Thanks for posting the thread.

The fact that Torcs have been found there shows that the people of both Ireland and Great Britain share a history and culture that goes way back.

mythicalireland.com...

a reply to: gortex

Absolutely mate.

Thanks for posting the video.

I believe that spirals on a building meant that it was a place of peace and welcoming.

The way the passage tomb lights up precisely during the winter solstice is ultra amazing.
Like, how the heck did they know.

Apparently the way it works is (it might explain this in the video, i havn't time right now to watch it) is that the building has a "roofbox" (a hole above the entrance) to let the light shine in. During the winter solstice it lights up the interior totally. When you are standing at the very back and the light shines on you, it is because you are level with the roofbox (which must be about 12/15 high (above the entrance).
You are level because the pathway in is ever so slightly raising until you reach the end. You dont even notice you are walking elevated its so minuscule. Unreal. Like how did they know/do this?

The Neolithic must have been a great time to be alive , I envy them their natural existence and freedom to live in harmony with nature.

What a time that wouldve been to be alive, the absolute peace and at one with nature. Beautiful man, just beautiful.

Ireland, Britain, France. We are all so lucky because a megalithic building, tomb, circle, cairn, dolmen etc. is not too far away.

Beautiful. I'd advise anybody to visit Newgrange, magical it be.

originally posted by: nugget1
I find it hard to believe that simple 'stone age farmers' created such fantastic sites, like they had nothing better to do in their off-season time.

I think archeologists are missing huge pieces of the puzzle, and maybe on the wrong trail alltogether.

Love your thread, SecretKnowledge!

I think we don't give them enough credit.

Maybe there are missing pieces of the puzzle, but what a puzzle it is, huh?

a reply to: Kurokage

Ah Ireland and Britain go wayyyyy back.

We are ancient friends.

I havnt time to check your link right now but i will later.

Its a sunny Sunday, im off down to the seafront meet up with a few friends.

Cheers for the post

a reply to: SecretKnowledge2

So when he wasn't there i went straight to a spiral and rubbed my hands on it, then lay against it. Arms and legs spread eagled on it.

Immediately i started feeling powerful. POWERFUL like a huge ball of energy coming into me.

are you sure you weren't feeling, naner naner naner i touched it and you didn't catch me.

Major flaw in modern man, arrogance, believing people of the ancient past were in some way inferior to us. They were not and increasingly, as we learn more about them, it seems they were way ahead of us in ways we now are expected to accept as pseudo.

When you consider how ancient Europeans traveled, on foot, from central, northern and southern Europe, crossing Doggerland and on to Starr Carr and the Henges, how can anyone think these people primitive in thought and understanding?

Their senses would not, as now, be polluted by modern life. They had not lost their their awareness of the stars, the sounds and rhythms of the Earth, of every living thing around them.

When we appreciate the awesomeness of a vista, the evocative aroma of freshly cut grass, we are transported, if only for a moment, to our ancient understanding of life, that carries on in all of us.

Right now, I can hear birds chirping in the garden. I am distracted by the machine I type at. The ancients, having no such distractions, would have, unlike me, known the call of each, differentiating between the sparrow and the blackbird, as I cannot.

Living in symbiosis with all life is mind expanding. Living surrounded by the manufactured and technological 'advancements' of our age, is mind-numbing. Even though we have access to more diverse information, such as learning about Newgrange and Knowth today, we are the poorer for it.

Thank you SK2, great thread. I agree about there being something knowledgeable about the spirals. Not just a simple shape anyone could replicate, it meant something we have forgotten.

Spooky or what! I was there exactly a week ago, what’s not taken into account is the weather in Ireland especially in winter to be able to build this structure and get it perfect for the sunrise when it’s constantly misty or raining on the day of the solstice must have been somewhat of a challenge. How long did they wait and how many attempts must they have made.

a reply to: nugget1

There was no "off season" they were constantly either out hunting or gathering, and changing those habits around the seasons.
In the case of Stonehenge for example it has been found that every year around certain times of the year the groups or small tribes of sheep herders would gather and have a huge festival pretty much, which included moving giant rocks. This was only achieved by having good sources of protein, which of course the herders had.

It all revolved around food.

a reply to: strongfp

Well, they sure accomplished a lot in their off season. Their festivals must have lasted for months in order to accomplish such great feats!

Those sheepherders that built Stonehenge must have been some mighty powerful men. I don't think men today could build it without modern tools, no matter how many years they had to do it in.

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge2

originally posted by: nugget1
I find it hard to believe that simple 'stone age farmers' created such fantastic sites, like they had nothing better to do in their off-season time.

I think archeologists are missing huge pieces of the puzzle, and maybe on the wrong trail alltogether.

Love your thread, SecretKnowledge!

I think we don't give them enough credit.

Maybe there are missing pieces of the puzzle, but what a puzzle it is, huh?

I thnik the secret to the credit they deserve is in lost technology; technology so simple modern man can't begin to conceive of it.

a reply to: nugget1

Months, maybe 3 - 4 months, as the herds and their seasonal needs would be met first.

And it doesn't take much to move or shape stone. You don't need advanced technology either. Rope, logs, other rocks, etc. And man power is all you need really.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: strongfp

Well, they sure accomplished a lot in their off season. Their festivals must have lasted for months in order to accomplish such great feats!

Those sheepherders that built Stonehenge must have been some mighty powerful men. I don't think men today could build it without modern tools, no matter how many years they had to do it in.

Well, the Nephilim of the Bible were giants. Red headed ones at that we believe. Ireland had lots of red haired folks too. A pack of big muscular giants could easily build a Stonehenge and other megalithic structures.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: strongfp

Well, they sure accomplished a lot in their off season. Their festivals must have lasted for months in order to accomplish such great feats!

Those sheepherders that built Stonehenge must have been some mighty powerful men. I don't think men today could build it without modern tools, no matter how many years they had to do it in.

Well, the Nephilim of the Bible were giants. Red headed ones at that we believe. Ireland had lots of red haired folks too. A pack of big muscular giants could easily build a Stonehenge and other megalithic structures.

Mainstream archeology doesn't cover giants. Just ordinary primative farmers transporting giant stones 150 miles in their 'off' season to make massive structures and monuments.

me and the wife got to go there, it was something.

One of my favorite places I saw in europe along with capadocia. both places to me just felt different, I saw more impressive looking places but I guess maybe the age of it.

Dont know hard to describe it, Ireland was one of 2 places I would have liked to go back to.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: nugget1

Months, maybe 3 - 4 months, as the herds and their seasonal needs would be met first.

And it doesn't take much to move or shape stone. You don't need advanced technology either. Rope, logs, other rocks, etc. And man power is all you need really.

What are you talking about? The bluestones of Stonehenge were transported all the way from Wales, the stones must have had a special significance to go to such trouble. Some of the capstones on Dolmens weigh about 5 tons and precariously lifted and balanced on 3 or 4 upright stones. Why go to such effort when they could have just used smaller stones? Just like they did in many of their cairns.
Many of the ancient structures do not even feature stones and were earthen mounds, Thornborough Henge is a classic example, with a footprint bigger than the 3 pyramids of Egypt and also a similar offset alignment that looks like Orion’s Belt.
Their knowledge of astronomy was brilliant and they incorporated this into many of their structures. Sometimes there would just be a single standing stone however and nobody really knows what purpose these served.


We are lucky to have these sites preserved to us today and it’s partly because of the scale of the structure, weight of the stones and their remoteness that they have survived. Many more must have been destroyed to make way for modern buildings and development, over this long period of history.

Just as it was thought that the pyramids were built by slaves until recently, so it is that the idea that these were built by primitive hunter gatherers and subsistence farmers is wrong.