“We are all fundamentally good ... the heart itself is good,” says Pope Francis

“We are all fundamentally good. Yes, there are some rogues and sinners, but the heart itself is good,” says Pope Francis.

But what does God’s word say?

“… None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” (Romans 3:10-18 ESV)

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?” (Jeremiah 17:9 ESV)

If man and his heart is fundamentally good, why do we need a saviour?
For what purpose did Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, die?
Who should we believe, the Pope, or God?

As it is written, “We must obey God rather than men.” (Acts 5:29)

But there is good news...

Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, was crucified and died for our sins, taking upon Himself the punishment we deserve. He was then buried and raised back to life on the third day, in accordance with the scriptures. He now sits at His Father’s right hand and is awaiting His Father’s instruction to return. This was all recorded in the scriptures contained in the Holy Bible, which is the word of God and is able to save our souls.

Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your heart in rebellion. Whoever conceals his sins will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy and forgiveness. If you repent and believe in the gospel, putting your faith in Jesus Christ, you will inherit salvation, which leads to everlasting life. With this salvation comes a necessary spiritual rebirth; God will give you a new heart and His Holy Spirit, which will give you wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, put His Laws on your heart and mind, guide you into all the truth, help you, and comfort you. By the blood of Jesus, sanctifying you and cleansing you of all unrighteousness—conforming you to His image.

a reply to: TheGoodNews

Francis is an apostate idealogue.

... says Pope Francis.

A broken clock can be correct twice a day.

Pope Francis is an anti-American, anti-Catholic, anti-Free-Market, anti-borders, far left New World Order GLOBALIST. If he says something, then it's probably safe to assume the exact opposite is true.

? *&%$ !
what about a new born babie born With Sine.
and goint to hell?
unless a priest gets His hands on it.
and splashes its head. with holy water.

a reply to: TheGoodNews

The heart is good, but the mind may be deceived.

It is still possible to "sin" while having the best intentions, if those intentions are, or have been, informed by ignorance or a lack of understanding.

As the days of Noah…

Maranatha.

All are born good. (Just look at our youngest children)

But things go wrong as they grow up. They get selfish from watching us... Priests and Coaches molest them... Government forces them to think their birth sex is wrong... it's all downhill from age 5, for most U.S. children, imo.

a reply to: TheGoodNews

Greetings TheGoodNews. I am glad that you were able to reason with scripture to see the folly of those words of the current Pope, as well-intentioned as they may be, they betray a gross lack of Bible study on his part and spiritual comprehension.

I was just thinking about this that you wrote as I was driving home from the store with my wife this morning:

God will give you a new heart and His Holy Spirit, which will give you wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, put His Laws on your heart and mind, guide you into all the truth, help you, and comfort you.

I was contemplating back to when Jehovah told Moses on the Holy Mountain that he was going to gather a "Foolish Nation" to incite his Covenant people, the Israelites to jealousy. And then he said he was going to write his law on their hearts. And how does God's law get into the hearts of his servants? Notice what he says:

"You will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes.  And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it,” in case you should go to the right or in case you should go to the left."-Jeremiah 30:20-21.

This word from behind, is from the past, it is God's written word guarded for us. So it is by means of reading the Bible, Jehovah's Holy word of truth, with humble prayer and meditation on the things in it that we get God's mind on things, and his law written on our hearts. The fact that he promised to leave this word from behind us, or from the past, shows that Jehovah has always purposed for us to have the Holy Word the Bible. It is by means of his word that he sanctifies or cleanses his people. In in he guides us in all the ways of the truth to distinguish both right and wrong.

a reply to: Scratchpost

No. All children are innocent until they reach the age of accountability (which is a development thing - where they know the difference between good and bad).

Children are innocent until they reach the biblical age of accountability. Isaiah 7:15-16 twice states that until a certain age a baby will not know, "how to refuse the evil and choose the good."

Christianity was based on the KJV of the Bible; since then cults have created their own version by reinterpreting the 'original' Word of God, such as the Book of Mormon and the New World Translation.

Now we have a world full of bastardized versions and wonder why there has been a falling away. Careful you don't trip over the elephant in the room.

The absolute best thing that can happen to you, is to be born to loving parents that understand the responsibility of bringing up a child in the best possible way that their present capabilities and environment allows.

a reply to: charlyv

Good parents nurture good children which also earns the parents honour from their children.

“Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.”

The promise of a long life.

originally posted by: nugget1
Christianity was based on the KJV of the Bible; since then cults have created their own version by reinterpreting the 'original' Word of God, such as the Book of Mormon and the New World Translation.

Christianity has been in existence since the first century of our Common Era, or about 2,100 years ago. The KJV was published in 1611.

Also Jehovah's Witnesses had been around long before the NWT. Which is a fresh an accurate translation of the Bible. To even compare it with the made up Mormon book is a gross slander. They have used and use and publish the KJV

BTW, here are the actual codices used in the translation of the NWT:

א (ʼAleph) Codex Sinaiticus, Gr., fourth cent. C.E., British Museum, H.S., G.S.
A Codex Alexandrinus, Gr., fifth cent. C.E., British Museum, H.S., G.S.
ad Aid to Bible Understanding, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, Brooklyn, 1971.
Al Aleppo Codex, Heb., c. 930 C.E., Israel, H.S.
Aq Aquila’s Gr. translation of H.S., second cent. C.E., Cambridge, England.
Arm Armenian Version, fourth to thirteenth cent. C.E.; H.S., G.S.
B Vatican ms 1209, Gr., fourth cent. C.E., Vatican City, Rome, H.S., G.S.
B 19A See Leningrad.
Bauer A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, by W. Bauer, second English ed., by F. W. Gingrich and F. W. Danker, Chicago and London (1979).
BDB Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, by Brown, Driver and Briggs, Oxford, 1978 reprint.
BHK Biblia Hebraica, by Kittel, Kahle, Alt and Eissfeldt, Privilegierte Württembergische Bibelanstalt, Stuttgart, seventh to ninth ed., 1951-55, H.S.
BHS Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, by Elliger and Rudolph, Deutsche Bibelstiftung, Stuttgart, 1977, H.S.
C Codex Ephraemi rescriptus, Gr., fifth cent. C.E., Paris, H.S., G.S.
Ca Cairo Codex, Heb., 895 C.E., Cairo, Egypt, H.S.
D Bezae Codices, Gr. and Lat., fifth and sixth cent. C.E., Cambridge, England, G.S.
Gins. Massoretico-Critical Text of the Hebrew Bible, by C. D. Ginsburg, London, 1926.
Gins.Int Introduction to the Massoretico-Critical Edition of the Hebrew Bible, by C. D. Ginsburg, Ktav Publishing House, New York, 1966 reprint.
Gins.Mas The Massorah, by C. D. Ginsburg, Ktav Publishing House, New York, 1975 reprint.
GK Gesenius’ Hebrew Grammar, by E. Kautzsch and A. E. Cowley, Oxford, England (1910).
Grn The Interlinear Hebrew/English Bible, Vol. I-III, by J. Green, Wilmington, U.S., 1976.
Int The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, Brooklyn, 1969, a word-for-word rendering from Greek into English.
It Old Latin Versions, Itala, second to fourth cent. C.E.; H.S., G.S.
J1 Matthew, Heb., edited by J. du Tillet, with a Lat. translation by J. Mercier, Paris, 1555.
J2 Matthew, Heb., incorporated as a separate chapter in ʼEʹven boʹchan [“Tried Stone”], by Shem-Tob ben Isaac Ibn Shaprut, 1385. Mss of 16th and 17th cent., Jewish Theological Seminary, New York.
J3 Matthew and Hebrews, Heb. and Lat., by Sebastian Münster, Basel, 1537 and 1557 respectively.
J4 Matthew, Heb., by J. Quinquarboreus, Paris, 1551.
J5 Liturgical Gospels, Heb., by F. Petri, Wittemberg, 1573.
J6 Liturgical Gospels, German, Lat., Gr. and Heb., by Johann Clajus, Leipzig, 1576.
J7 Christian Greek Scriptures in 12 languages, including Heb., by Elias Hutter, Nuremberg, 1599.
J8 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by William Robertson, London, 1661.
J9 Gospels, Heb. and Lat., by Giovanni Battista Jona, Rome, 1668.
J10 The New Testament . . . in Hebrew and English, by Richard Caddick, Vol. I-III, containing Matthew—1 Corinthians, London, 1798-1805.
J11 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by Thomas Fry and others, London, 1817.
J12 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by William Greenfield, London, 1831.
J13 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by A. McCaul, M. S. Alexander, J. C. Reichardt and S. Hoga, London, 1838.
J14 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by J. C. Reichardt, London, 1846.
J15 Luke, Acts, Romans and Hebrews, Heb., by J. H. R. Biesenthal, Berlin, 1855, 1867, 1853 and 1858 respectively.
J16 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by J. C. Reichardt and J. H. R. Biesenthal, London, 1866.
J17 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by Franz Delitzsch, London, 1981 ed.
J18 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by Isaac Salkinson and C. D. Ginsburg, London.
J19 John, Heb., by Moshe I. Ben Maeir, Denver, Colorado, 1957.
J20 A Concordance to the Greek Testament, by W. F. Moulton and A. S. Geden, fourth ed., Edinburgh, 1963.
J21 The Emphatic Diaglott (Greek-English interlinear), by Benjamin Wilson, New York, 1864, reprint by Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, Brooklyn, 1942.
J22 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by United Bible Societies, Jerusalem, 1979.
J23 Christian Greek Scriptures, Heb., by J. Bauchet, Rome, 1975.
J24 A Literal Translation of the New Testament . . . From the Text of the Vatican Manuscript, by Herman Heinfetter, London, 1863.
J25 St. Paul’s Epistle to the Romans, by W. G. Rutherford, London, 1900.
J26 Psalms and Matthew 1:1-3:6, Heb., by Anton Margaritha, Leipzig, 1533.
J27 Die heilige Schrift des neuen Testaments, by Dominik von Brentano, third ed., Vienna and Prague, 1796.
JTS Journal of Theological Studies, Clarendon, Oxford.
KB Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, by L. Koehler and W. Baumgartner, Leiden, Netherlands, 1953.
KB3 Hebräisches und Aramäisches Lexikon zum Alten Testament, by W. Baumgartner, third ed., Leiden, Netherlands, 1967 and later ed.
Leningrad Codex Leningrad B 19A, Heb., 1008 C.E., H.S., Saltykov-Shchedrin State Public Library, Leningrad, U.S.S.R.
LS A Greek-English Lexicon, by H. Liddell and R. Scott, Oxford, 1968.
LXX Septuagint, Gr., third and second cent. B.C.E., H.S. (A. Rahlfs, Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, Stuttgart, 1935).
LXXא See א.
LXXA See A.
LXXB See B.
LXXBagster Septuagint (with an English translation by Sir Lancelot Brenton, S. Bagster & Sons, London, 1851).
LXXL Septuagint (P. de Lagarde, Göttingen, Germany, 1883).
LXXThomson Septuagint, translated by C. Thomson, Pells ed., London, 1904.
M Masoretic Hebrew text found in Codex Leningrad B 19A as presented in BHK and BHS.
NW New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, Brooklyn, 1984 revision.
P45 Papyrus Chester Beatty 1, Gr., third cent. C.E., Dublin, G.S.
P46 Papyrus Chester Beatty 2, Gr., c. 200 C.E., Dublin, Ann Arbor, Michigan, U.S.A., G.S.
P47 Papyrus Chester Beatty 3, Gr., third cent. C.E., Dublin, G.S.
P66 Papyrus Bodmer 2, Gr., c. 200 C.E., Geneva, G.S.
P74 Papyrus Bodmer 17, Gr., seventh cent. C.E., Geneva, G.S.
P75 Papyrus Bodmer 14, 15, Gr., c. 200 C.E., Geneva, G.S.
1QIsa The Dead Sea Scroll of Isaiah, Jerusalem, found in 1947 in Qumran Cave No. 1.
Sam Pentateuch in Samaritan, fourth cent. B.C.E., Israel.
si “All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial,” Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, Brooklyn, 1963.
Sn Hebrew Old Testament, by N. H. Snaith, Israel, 1970.

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originally posted by: nugget1
Christianity was based on the KJV of the Bible; since then cults have created their own version by reinterpreting the 'original' Word of God, such as the Book of Mormon and the New World Translation.

Now we have a world full of bastardized versions and wonder why there has been a falling away. Careful you don't trip over the elephant in the room.

Christianity was around long before the KJV came along. The KJV is just a translation into English. That is all the New World Translation is as well. A translation. Using modern English instead of the King's English.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

... says Pope Francis.

A broken clock can be correct twice a day.

Pope Francis is an anti-American, anti-Catholic, anti-Free-Market, anti-borders, far left New World Order GLOBALIST. If he says something, then it's probably safe to assume the exact opposite is true.

When I first read this I saw "A broken "cloak" can be correct twice a day", and I thought how apropos!

It's still fine as clock but The Pope and his Papal cloak? Brilliant!

originally posted by: Scratchpost
? *&%$ !
what about a new born baby born With Sin.
and going to hell?
unless a priest gets His hands on it.
and splashes its head. with holy water.

no no no that's not how it works.
God will send no one to hell unless they willfully sin.
not sure what happens to one who dies before reaching the age of accountability. one theory is that these children will be resurrected to inhabit the Earth at a future time.

originally posted by: Blueracer

originally posted by: nugget1
Christianity was based on the KJV of the Bible; since then cults have created their own version by reinterpreting the 'original' Word of God, such as the Book of Mormon and the New World Translation.

Now we have a world full of bastardized versions and wonder why there has been a falling away. Careful you don't trip over the elephant in the room.

Christianity was around long before the KJV came along. The KJV is just a translation into English. That is all the New World Translation is as well. A translation. Using modern English instead of the King's English.

Perhaps I should have said modern day Christianity, and they all seem to add their own twists and interpretations. If you don't like one version, just keep switching denominations until you find one you do like.

originally posted by: Coelacanth55

originally posted by: Scratchpost
? *&%$ !
what about a new born baby born With Sin.
and going to hell?
unless a priest gets His hands on it.
and splashes its head. with holy water.

no no no that's not how it works.
God will send no one to hell unless they willfully sin.
not sure what happens to one who dies before reaching the age of accountability. one theory is that these children will be resurrected to inhabit the Earth at a future time.

That's not how modern day preachers interpret it; according to Southern Baptists a baby who dies when his parents aren't 'born again' unfortunately goes to hell.

a reply to: randomuser2034

Which is a fresh and accuratetranslation of the Bible.

According to your chosen beliefs. I find it quite pompus when religious zealots think the way they believe is the only way to get to heaven. It acutally seems rather intitled and ignorant.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: randomuser2034

Which is a fresh and accuratetranslation of the Bible.

According to your chosen beliefs. I find it quite pompus when religious zealots think the way they believe is the only way to get to heaven. It acutally seems rather intitled and ignorant.

That statement says a lot more about you than anyone else.

In any event Jehovah's Witnesses use the Bible to base their beliefs. In fact when Charles Taze Russell and his fellow associates sat down for a number of years, they systemically went through the scriptures throwing out all dogma and doctrine of the Churches, and decided to use the Bible as a guide for their beliefs. And believe it or not it was the King James Bible they used to do this. And they published their findings using references as proof to show the doctrines of the Churches as false. And in any event it isn't as if they invented anything new. Many of their basic Bible understandings other Churches of Christendom had already understood. In fact Russell made the comment that spread throughout the plethora of sects of Christendom mixed in with a lot of the false pagan teachings that had seeped into the Churches, each one had a major fundamental truth they had right.

What Jehovah's holy spirit did was move his anointed Christian followers to consolidate that truth and publish it. When the Churches of Christendom did not want to correct themselves from obvious errors that are clearly shown in the Bible they separated themselves from Christendom. But that all of this would happen, a falling away, an apostasy, and then at the end of this system of things God would separate his people out from the weeds of false Christianity using the angels as reapers was already foretold long ago.


The form of worship practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses is the restoration of the pure worship of the first century Christian congregation.