5 soldiers killed, 7 hurt in ‘friendly fire’ incident in northern Gaza’s Jabaliya

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Five Israeli soldiers were killed and another seven were wounded, including three seriously, in an incident of so-called friendly fire in northern Gaza’s Jabaliya on Wednesday evening, the military announced Thursday.

The soldiers all served in the Paratroopers Brigade’s 202nd Battalion, and were part of an ultra-Orthodox company.

Their deaths brought the toll of slain troops in the Israel Defense Forces ground offensive against Hamas in Gaza and in operations on the border to 278. A civilian Defense Ministry contractor has also been killed in the Gaza Strip

An Israeli tank shelled a building where paratroopers gathered resulting in the killing of 5 soldiers and the injury of another 7 of them. Apparently there was a misunderstanding and they thought the building was probably occupied by Palestinian fighters.

Imagine now that happens when the fire is 'not friendly' and when Israeli tanks and airplanes shell and bomb buildings and areas where there are many civilians who are killed and injured at an alarming rate. The Israeli Government has already accepted it has killed at least 16,000 innocent civilians and at least 30,000 Palestinians altogether. But this numbers is likely to be much higher.

In the article it says that 49 soldiers so far have been killed by 'friendly fire'. How many Palestinians have been killed by 'unfriendly fire'?

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UN says Gaza death toll still over 35,000 but not all bodies identified

I find it very hard to feel any sympathy for them.

Idf soldiers are going to the same place in hell that hamas are going to.

originally posted by: Maybenexttime
I find it very hard to feel any sympathy for them.

Idf soldiers are going to the same place in hell that hamas are going to.

If you take a look at their ages all of them are in their early 20s and just as many many Palestinians lost their lives and they are not coming back. You can argue they would have killed innocent civilians and that's probably true.

a reply to: Versioq

Vs? What the misfired rockets by Gaza militants that take out Gaza civilians used in the indiscriminate attacks on Jews?

We know from Israeli radar trackers that at least 450 terrorist rockets have landed within Gaza since this war began on October 7 — an almost 10 percent ‘friendly fire’ rate. That will only rise as Hamas and Islamic Jihad feel the pressure of the IDF counter-offensive. Is it too much to ask that, from now on, no one listen to their lies?” — Mark Dubowitz, FDD CEO


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So? For Oct 13, 2024. How is that investigation going for the 70 killed in a convoy leaning Gaza after evidence stated pointing to Gaza militant IED’s?

originally posted by: Versioq
www.timesofisrael.com...

Five Israeli soldiers were killed and another seven were wounded, including three seriously, in an incident of so-called friendly fire in northern Gaza’s Jabaliya on Wednesday evening, the military announced Thursday.

The soldiers all served in the Paratroopers Brigade’s 202nd Battalion, and were part of an ultra-Orthodox company.

Their deaths brought the toll of slain troops in the Israel Defense Forces ground offensive against Hamas in Gaza and in operations on the border to 278. A civilian Defense Ministry contractor has also been killed in the Gaza Strip

An Israeli tank shelled a building where paratroopers gathered resulting in the killing of 5 soldiers and the injury of another 7 of them. Apparently there was a misunderstanding and they thought the building was probably occupied by Palestinian fighters.

Imagine now that happens when the fire is 'not friendly' and when Israeli tanks and airplanes shell and bomb buildings and areas where there are many civilians who are killed and injured at an alarming rate. The Israeli Government has already accepted it has killed at least 16,000 innocent civilians and at least 30,000 Palestinians altogether. But this numbers is likely to be much higher.

In the article it says that 49 soldiers so far have been killed by 'friendly fire'. How many Palestinians have been killed by 'unfriendly fire'?

www.reuters.com...

UN says Gaza death toll still over 35,000 but not all bodies identified

unfriendly fire is what we call "war". it's hell. HAMAS should never have started this one.

a reply to: Versioq

And if Hamas would have just retuned the hostages after they sanctioned murder, rape, torture, kidnapping to break a cease fire to start the war on Oct 7th, how many more people would be alive.

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Versioq

Vs? What the misfired rockets by Gaza militants that take out Gaza civilians used in the indiscriminate attacks on Jews?

We know from Israeli radar trackers that at least 450 terrorist rockets have landed within Gaza since this war began on October 7 — an almost 10 percent ‘friendly fire’ rate. That will only rise as Hamas and Islamic Jihad feel the pressure of the IDF counter-offensive. Is it too much to ask that, from now on, no one listen to their lies?” — Mark Dubowitz, FDD CEO


www.fdd.org...

So? For Oct 13, 2024. How is that investigation going for the 70 killed in a convoy leaning Gaza after evidence stated pointing to Gaza militant IED’s?

Vs the at least 30,000 Palestinians killed by the Israeli Forces. They have admitted killing at least 16,000 civilians. And there are many more under the rubble and the missing ones. Of course the number given is much higher but just for having a conversation let's assume it's 16,000 civilians.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Versioq
www.timesofisrael.com...

Five Israeli soldiers were killed and another seven were wounded, including three seriously, in an incident of so-called friendly fire in northern Gaza’s Jabaliya on Wednesday evening, the military announced Thursday.

The soldiers all served in the Paratroopers Brigade’s 202nd Battalion, and were part of an ultra-Orthodox company.

Their deaths brought the toll of slain troops in the Israel Defense Forces ground offensive against Hamas in Gaza and in operations on the border to 278. A civilian Defense Ministry contractor has also been killed in the Gaza Strip

An Israeli tank shelled a building where paratroopers gathered resulting in the killing of 5 soldiers and the injury of another 7 of them. Apparently there was a misunderstanding and they thought the building was probably occupied by Palestinian fighters.

Imagine now that happens when the fire is 'not friendly' and when Israeli tanks and airplanes shell and bomb buildings and areas where there are many civilians who are killed and injured at an alarming rate. The Israeli Government has already accepted it has killed at least 16,000 innocent civilians and at least 30,000 Palestinians altogether. But this numbers is likely to be much higher.

In the article it says that 49 soldiers so far have been killed by 'friendly fire'. How many Palestinians have been killed by 'unfriendly fire'?

www.reuters.com...

UN says Gaza death toll still over 35,000 but not all bodies identified

unfriendly fire is what we call "war". it's hell. HAMAS should never have started this one.

Still it doesn't justify the mass killings of innocent civilians, the war crimes and the crimes against humanity committed by Israel.

When Israel admitted killing 16,000 civilians (at least) they admit to the associated war crimes. They go together.

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Versioq

And if Hamas would have just retuned the hostages after they sanctioned murder, rape, torture, kidnapping to break a cease fire to start the war on Oct 7th, how many more people would be alive.

Is this some kind of apology for the mass killings of innocent civilians?

I am sure it won't work in a court of law when Israel is accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Imagine you throw this argument as part of the defense?! If they have returned the hostages we wouldn't have killed so many civilians. It wouldn't work. What do you think?

Another poster said it is 'just war'. Imagine you try to justify the mass killings of civilians and the war crimes committed by arguing # happens in war?! Is not going to work either.

a reply to: Versioq

It’s not apologizing for anyone.

If Hamas doesn’t want civilians to die, they should have not broken a cease fire on Oct 7.

Or surrendered after their illegitimate Oct 7 massacre and genocide.

Or the very least. Evacuate civilians into to those tunnels of theirs.

Don’t want schools turned into legitimate military targets, don’t store weapons and rockets in them.

Don’t want hospitals attacked, don’t cower under them and run out to launch rockets.

a reply to: Versioq

I thought this thread was about friendly fire?

You don’t want to post about the 100’s, if not the 1000’s, of Hamas and militant rockets that have misfired and landed in populated Gaza areas. Specially since they are launched from neighborhoods?

You know. Those rockets in the tens of thousands that are used to indiscriminately target civilians. Those rockets and attacks over the years that do fit the definition of genocide

America should sit up and take notice of what happens when you willingly not only harbor terrorist but elect them into office.

America went half way around the world to retaliate for 9/11; what will be the response when it happens in house?

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Versioq

It’s not apologizing for anyone.

If Hamas doesn’t want civilians to die, they should have not broken a cease fire on Oct 7.

Or surrendered after their illegitimate Oct 7 massacre and genocide.

Or the very least. Evacuate civilians into to those tunnels of theirs.

Don’t want schools turned into legitimate military targets, don’t store weapons and rockets in them.

Don’t want hospitals attacked, don’t cower under them and run out to launch rockets.

You can't justify war crimes and mass killings on the basis of what Hamas did on the 7th of October. It doesn't work this way according to International Law. Your unqualified opinion is really amusing.

Hamas and the IDF are two separate entities and they will be charged separately.

One entity has killed 1,200 people. The other has killed at least 30,000 (likely to be many more)

a reply to: Postrenar

I’m basing it off Hamas ongoing use of human shields.

The USA had to use Nuclear bombs to force Japan to surrender. Was the use of nuclear bombs a war crime and / or genocide?

originally posted by: Postrenar

It doesn't work this way according to International Law.

By international law, what evidence is there that Isreal is committing genocide?

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Postrenar

I’m basing it off Hamas ongoing use of human shields.

The USA had to use Nuclear bombs to force Japan to surrender. Was the use of nuclear bombs a war crime and / or genocide?

The human shields argument doesn't work in criminal courts very well. They will be charged and convicted of various war crimes and crimes against humanity.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Postrenar

It doesn't work this way according to International Law.

By international law, what evidence is there that Isreal is committing genocide?

Leave this to the courts.

There is plenty of evidence of mass killings to start with. Something that the Israelis have admitted already.

And just think,
If the zio-capitalists didn't hold
Palestinians as hostages for 76 yrs,
NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING.

. . but they kill and black-mail even their 'own'.
As for the zio-capitalists,
it's about >material world, and $
They are cold blooded liars.

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originally posted by: ToneD
And just think,
If the zio-capitalists didn't hold
Palestinians as hostages for 76 yrs,
NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING.

. . but they kill and black-mail even their 'own'.
For them, it's about >material world, and $
They are cold blooded liars.

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originally posted by: Lazy88
what evidence is there that Isreal is committing genocide?

Have you been asleep ?
btw, what does 88 according to your name mean ?
Because . . it is known as a
Neo-Nazi # an abbreviation for the Nazi salute Heil Hitler.
Same with zelinsky's nazi and his recruits >
"Germany deported seven Ukrainian soldiers
who were training in the country"
www.ynetnews.com...
Looking as if nazi means na.tional zi.onism

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