REAL ID now a reality

originally posted by: AllisVibration
a reply to: chr0naut

Unfortunately, freedom to not have to show some sort of consistent secure proof of identity, is freedom to be defrauded.

Wait while everything is biometrics and stored digitally, without some smart phone or electronic device you won’t be able to do anything requiring an ID, (which is an ever expanding amount of things) on top of that everything digital can be hacked. So if someone steals your biometrics you will be screwed, no changing passwords, or getting new documents etc.. you will be potentially locked out of your own life. Especially when digital currency is common place and nowhere excepts cash. No groceries for you, the whole thing could be a nightmare.

Governments could and will most likely use it to influence people’s behaviour, similar to China’s social credits system.
Or in the name of saving the environment travel and diet could easily be restricted if you exceed your quota.

At the very least you’re every action and transaction can be traced and monitored in real time by some AI.

But it will be for your convenience! Just be careful you don’t get nose dived…

Are you suggesting that the government provide stuff that tax payers have funded, to just anyone, like some massive free giveaway?

originally posted by: AllisVibration
a reply to: chr0naut

Unfortunately, freedom to not have to show some sort of consistent secure proof of identity, is freedom to be defrauded.

Wait while everything is biometrics and stored digitally, without some smart phone or electronic device you won’t be able to do anything requiring an ID, (which is an ever expanding amount of things) on top of that everything digital can be hacked. So if someone steals your biometrics you will be screwed, no changing passwords, or getting new documents etc.. you will be potentially locked out of your own life. Especially when digital currency is common place and nowhere excepts cash. No groceries for you, the whole thing could be a nightmare.

Governments could and will most likely use it to influence people’s behaviour, similar to China’s social credits system.
Or in the name of saving the environment travel and diet could easily be restricted if you exceed your quota.


At the very least you’re every action and transaction can be traced and monitored in real time by some AI.

But it will be for your convenience! Just be careful you don’t get nose dived…

This is a conspiracy theory website, and yet so many here don’t seem to be aware of the real scope of the elite’s totalitarian plans for the common people. Remember G Bush Sr told us they would be successful with their implementation of the New World Order.
Now today they talk about digital currency and so on. The Jan 6 thing was to show us how much control they really have and all the protesters out there today are in the palm of their hands.

a reply to: PorkChop96

If they would just use the SSN to track voters.....hmmm.....

a reply to: burritocat

The world’s biggest tyrants ain’t nothin’ but paper pushin’ bureaucrats.

Cower in fear sheeple!

a reply to: burritocat
Why does anyone have a problem with ID being required for using any regulated service?
I understand the biometrics thing, but I've had my UK passport ever since I was 18, and so far that has been the ONLY document I've ever needed to prove who I am.

I'm no champion of controls lol, but right now 'The Crown' is the hardest gang on my island, and it requires ID to provide me with services etc. The best ID is the passport, and it costs less than £100 for ten years...and still I hear British people bitchin that it's big brother control, or a barrier for people pmsl🤣

a reply to: AdultMaleHumanUK
I can't speak for any other country, but the ONLY people who find a passport/ID requirement as a barrier for obtaining government services/citizen privileges etc, are the lying immigrant/criminal bastard's who shouldn't #ing be here anyway!

a reply to: AllisVibration

I never used an ID and pretty much I am a ghost in my exxhanges with the State.

originally posted by: AdultMaleHumanUK
a reply to: burritocat
Why does anyone have a problem with ID being required for using any regulated service?
I understand the biometrics thing, but I've had my UK passport ever since I was 18, and so far that has been the ONLY document I've ever needed to prove who I am.

I'm no champion of controls lol, but right now 'The Crown' is the hardest gang on my island, and it requires ID to provide me with services etc. The best ID is the passport, and it costs less than £100 for ten years...and still I hear British people bitchin that it's big brother control, or a barrier for people pmsl🤣

You are in the UK, so you probably have a different attitude towards it. But Americans do not like government overreach, especially from the federal government. We already have ID cards from states, the idea of a federal one is ridiculous.

Many Americans do not have passports and traditionally, we didnt need them. The country is big, and our two biggest neighbors Canada and Mexico both only required your state ID to travel at one point. Its just big government trying to restrict and control the movements of its own citizens.

originally posted by: AdultMaleHumanUK
a reply to: burritocat
Why does anyone have a problem with ID being required for using any regulated service?
I understand the biometrics thing, but I've had my UK passport ever since I was 18, and so far that has been the ONLY document I've ever needed to prove who I am.

I don't think people necessarily have a problem using some form of ID. Speaking for myself, I hate having to keep getting additional and newer IDs because they keep saying that "This one is more secure now." That's what they say about each one. Stop bringing out and making us get newer and newer ones and stick to maybe one like a social security number that is proven to work and could still very much work in this computerized sanitized sterilized homogenized society we live in today.

Now make a real ID required to vote in every federal election.

I am on my second "Real ID" . Renewed it in 2022. I guess Georgia is ahead on getting this done.

originally posted by: burritocat


Remember, most of the 9/11 hijackers entered the US legally. Its all a big fraud.

As far as I'm aware, unless I've forgotten, all the 9/11 terrorists were in the US legally. They were all here on student visas, business visas or tourist visas.

originally posted by: AdultMaleHumanUK
a reply to: burritocat
Why does anyone have a problem with ID being required for using any regulated service?
I understand the biometrics thing, but I've had my UK passport ever since I was 18, and so far that has been the ONLY document I've ever needed to prove who I am.

It's not a problem with ID, most everyone has their government issued drivers license or ID card, that's what you've always needed to travel in the US. NOW they are saying that is no longer good enough, you now need a more secure ID card or a passport to travel within the US. Why was my last government issued ID no longer secure enough? Unlike in the UK and Europe were countries are small and you guys travel country to country like we travel state to state in the US or even Province to province in Canada. Most people in the US don't have passports because the majority rarely travels outside of the country.

a reply to: burritocat

a reply to: TheMisguidedAngel
Ah thanks folks, you're absolutely right about me not considering the need for a passport when your nation is on a continent level!🤣

My passport has always been much more important to me than my UK driving licence as it's internationally accepted.

My driving license was a battered old paper document (with no picture) until only last year when I upgraded to the picture card ID version.

My new driving license (picture card) still seems a pointless document to me though lol, it is NOT a requirement to have it with you when driving because the cops vehicle computer knows all your details. So, by showing my passport they can't bitch that I'm not the person on their records.

My passport is always on my person anyway though, just habit from travelling around our planet...and my main reason for having it on me at all times, is just in case I ever need to leave this island quickly, my driving license is gonna be zero use getting the next flight out!😂

originally posted by: AdultMaleHumanUK
My passport is always on my person anyway though, just habit from travelling around our planet...and my main reason for having it on me at all times, is just in case I ever need to leave this island quickly, my driving license is gonna be zero use getting the next flight out!😂

If a lot of people need to leave your island in a hurry, all the seats on the flights will fill up fast so you might have better luck using your license to drive to the coast, and drive off the island. Then you won't have to wait for an empty seat. But you would need to drive something like this:

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Oh gosh, I'm only thinking if 'I' personally need to get off this island quickly lol!

If 70/80 million people are ever all thinking the same thing thing, I imagine I'll die on my little hill by the sea smoking a spliff, watching thousands of overloaded small boats as they leave the coast and run out of diesel LONG before they get to France or possibly Ireland!😂

a reply to: TheMisguidedAngel

Mainly for airline travel, one more hassle TSA likes to promote, a stupid star on your drivers license. A military ID or passport will suffice for that. If the TSA would do their F’ing job in the first place you really wouldn’t need it. A friggin library card matching your airfare you bought would do.

Biometrics are coming too so whats the point. Bad guys will find another means to get to point B.

Airline travel sucks anyways, I’d much rather drive.