Hate makes for strange bedfellows

a reply to: network dude

the radical left is calling for it.

I get your point. But you know, If I remember correctly, the Communist regimes persecuted the Jewish populations as well, which was kind of ironic considering that Karl Marx was a Jew. Point I'm trying to make here is that its not unusual for "radical leftists" (Marxist/Socialist) to hate on the Jews. It' sort of what they do. I think what makes this situation in the US so weird is that most US Americans are too stupid to realize that the US Left is Marxist. Most US Americans think of the Leftist movement in the US as "Progressive". They don't see the Marxist roots and the Marxist agenda behind the US Leftists.

a reply to: network dude

So basically we're talking about idiots?

Is using those loaded words just your own bias showing trough?

What does it mean that every literal nazi is right wing?

The difference between the Nazi ideology and Islam is the Nazi's target was eliminating all Jew's; Islam calls for the death of all non-Muslims, world wide.
The Christian faith has eveolved and no longer condones stoning people to death for pre-maritail sex, or some of the other barbaric practices, just as a lot Muslims no longer embrace the call to violence of Islam, but the ones who do are vast and growing. We've become a world of choosing violence over seeking ways to peacefully co-exist.

The problem seems to be differentiating between radical and peaceful Islamists and finding a way to deal with the radical, violent faction who's whole life revolves around torturing and killing others in oredr to please their version of God.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: network dude

So basically we're talking about idiots?

Is using those loaded words just your own bias showing trough?

What does it mean that every literal nazi is right wing?

I suppose I'm at a loss. The OP discusses the radical left calling for death to Israel and Death to America. Are they right wing? If not, did they call for Death to Israel, much like the NAZI's did? Yes? now go back and re-read your post. See why I'm laughing?

originally posted by: nugget1
The problem seems to be differentiating between radical and peaceful Islamists...

Whatever peaceful Islamists there are ... they are shrinking in number.
Their hot headed fundamentalist brethren have taken the reigns.

a reply to: nugget1

We know that Hitler when to the Muslim community for help.

We know many American companies supported Hitler. Ford is the most known one.

We know the progressive left loved Hitler back then: Margret Sanger and Bill Gates' father were both eugenicists who founded what became known as Planned Parenthood. We even know the Nazi's thanked them for their ideas.

So today, what's changed?

Nothing.

Gates is a eugenicist like his father. Hilary is proud of her Sanger Award.

We had Operation Paperclip. Brought over 100's of Nazi scientists over and gave them high paying government jobs. They are the ones who helped shape the post ww2 world.

I believe that when we gave those scientists the power we did, they saw an opportunity for the motherland and slowly crafted America now.

In the name of scince, look what we have done to our own citizens with unconsented medical experiments. Look how the progressive left try and do things. Telling people what they can and can't do...right down to large sodas and the type of straw you get. That is dictatorial. That is fascist.

I still entertain the idea that the Nazis won, but let the masses think they lost.

For Extra credit, name some founders of both NASA and Disneyland.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: network dude

So basically we're talking about idiots?

Is using those loaded words just your own bias showing trough?

What does it mean that every literal nazi is right wing?

Terp, Come on, man. You can be smarter than that.

Let's start with the fact that Nazi is short for something...can you guess? It has the term Socialist right in it...

en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=The%20full%20name%20of%20the,a%20backwards%20farmer%20or%20peasant.

Every nazi and neo nazi is for socialism. The racists just want it separated by race. If you read their stuff, racists, nazis and the progressive left, they all stand for the same things.

a reply to: network dude

A Nazi is a radical nationalist who puts his country but only all those who are of pure blood above everything - which is not true in essence anyway, since Nazis want to destroy everything that opposes their belief system, traditionally: jews, democrats, liberals, artists, homosexuals. In addition, Nazis or neo-Nazis are usually men with strong feelings of inferiority (often very overweight chain smokers) as there is no trace of superior race. Trump is not a Nazi. Trump is a narcissist. People like Marjorie Taylor Greene have the potential to pass as Nazis when you examine their idiology. Trump is the classic con artist, a capitalist in perfection: unscrupulous, power-hungry, self-absorbed, egomaniacal and not empathetic. Add to that a limited education and diplomatic sensitivity. In other words, an anti-leader. The fact that many right-wing extremists pay homage to him is fitting, of course, but it doesn't make him one himself. Nevertheless, Trump is dangerous.

Incidentally, the demonization, the dehumanization of the political opponent, the enemy, is a classic Nazi strategy. Equating democrats with Nazis is stupid, sorry, and has nothing to do with reality. Sure, there are black sheep everywhere, but a right-wing radical democrat is a contradiction in terms.

What is paradoxical is that some leftists (or left-wing activists) are currently adopting certain fighting terms and practices of the Nazis. For me, they are victims of the Zeitgeist, victims of the internet. Their anti-Semitism is a sign of the increasing stupidity of certain circles, because they no longer get their knowledge from books but from the Internet (mostly from their little bubbles). Anyone who calls Hamas a peace group doesn't belong at university but in elementary school again.

Race is also just a fighting term, biologically speaking we are simply homo sapiens.

a reply to: theatreboy

To be precise, nazi is used for those who adhered to the NSDAP ideology.

If you go looking where that mindset has survived, You'll only find them on the right.

So the rather well defined term nazi means nothing in the context OP is trying to put it in.

Opening the post with pointing out how utterly flawed it is to throw words like nazi as blanket statements at party lines, to then go on to do just that, is exactly my type of stupid humor.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: budzprime69

The OP is about the radical left championing the cause of the NAZI's. Yes, Trump is mean and orange, and he has a lovely 2 bedroom flat in your head. But that doesn't have anything at all to do with the OP. Perhaps when your buzz wears off, you can make a thread on how mean and orange Trump is.

Then i misinterpreted the OP too! You know, when someone here on ATS says "He" it traditionally either means Trump or Biden. Or Jesus of course.

a reply to: theatreboy

I still entertain the idea that the Nazis won, but let the masses think they lost.

Agreed! If Hitler had rolled out his dictatorial program over a few decades instead of all at once, he would have succeeded, IMO. World leaders took note and developed a decades-long plan to accomplish the same goals, with America leading the charge.

We don't openly do Mengele experiments, they've continued covertly in prisons and third world nations, funded in large part by the Gates Foundation. Draconian laws have slowly been rolled out through the decades making us all endentured servants to The Man....from the river to the sea.

originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: nugget1

For Extra credit, name some founders of both NASA and Disneyland.

Werner Von Braun, a NAZI, founder of NASA, perpetrators of a very big lie. Then they founded Kennedy space station, and JFK’s dad was known to sympathize with killing Jews.

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a reply to: Terpene

You seriously need to stop drinking kool-aid!

I did a film in college on a neo-nazi march that took place in our area. They and most of the progressive left believe the same thing.

Universal HealthCare
A Living Minimum Wage
That abortion should be legal (for different reasons...the nazis align with Sanger)
That the population needs to be reduced and controlled
That Climate Change is a man made problem

Seriously, Stormfront reads like NPR or CNN.

Now, I know that you don't like the right. But it is not because they hate, it is because they don't hate those that the left hates. And the left hates anyone who isn't like them.

a reply to: network dude

Not all those protesting against war hate Jews.

But all Jew-haters are protestors.

I've explained this here before. The political spectrum is not a line. It's more like a circle. If you go far enough left or right, you reach a point where you're basically indistinguishable from the far [other side].

That's where the modern Left is. They've openly embraced fascist tactics. Known Nazi soldiers get standing ovations. The left's rhetoric on Israel is word for word what you'd hear at a neo-Nazi rally.

The US Democrat party is still the party of the KKK and Jim Crow, remember. The "party switch" is a myth. It never happened. There was no mass switching of bigots from Democrat to Republican. It simply did not happen.

The modern Western Left is now allied with radical Islamic terror and neo-Nazis.

a reply to: network dude

Another rabid herd. Which is how the comparison gets made.

There will always be parallels made because The Third Reich assumed power via scapegoating.

While I don't see myself being sent to any concentration camps, or even having my rights violated, The current GOP has something going for it, propaganda wise, which can be parodied as such:



If I used the one with Biden looking oblivious, it would just be a normal political poster.

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
The US Democrat party is still the party of the KKK and Jim Crow, remember. The "party switch" is a myth. It never happened. There was no mass switching of bigots from Democrat to Republican. It simply did not happen.

The modern Western Left is now allied with radical Islamic terror and neo-Nazis.

There has been a switch. The bigots corrupted the minorities.

What they wanted was to mark out success for themselves based on ethnicity.

The minorities may have decided they wanted that more than equal opportunity.

Now Republicans quote the "I Have A Dream" speech and get called haters for espousing the idea about content of character.

originally posted by: Solvedit

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain
The US Democrat party is still the party of the KKK and Jim Crow, remember. The "party switch" is a myth. It never happened. There was no mass switching of bigots from Democrat to Republican. It simply did not happen.

The modern Western Left is now allied with radical Islamic terror and neo-Nazis.

There has been a switch. The bigots corrupted the minorities.

What they wanted was to mark out success for themselves based on ethnicity.

The minorities may have decided they wanted that more than equal opportunity.

Now Republicans quote the "I Have A Dream" speech and get called haters for espousing the idea about content of character.

I'm not sure I'd call that a switch. Because most of the media and academia are Democrats, the Democrat party was able to successfully masquerade as being the party of minorities and women for a few decades through a web of lies. Their policies have done nothing but harm minorities and women. The mask is starting to slip though, and more minorities and women are starting to see it.

They never really changed. They're still the party of the KKK and the party that voted against women's suffrage.

a reply to: theatreboy

I know and like people on the right and on the left, but if they identify with their political ideology, i just don't take them that serious anymore.

Oh well... I'm glad you could find a box to put me in, sure it gives you a certain piece of mind.

It's just retarded and unnecessary to go and label contemporary political ideologies, which I all despise for leading the sheeps to the slaughterhouse, with old very specific German political parties...

And all that on top of a bruised ego because somone finally musteres the currage to criticize Israel openly.
like the good little dog on a leash they come barking "Nazi".

For being so aware how stupid it is to use the word Nazi as a rhetoric weapon. Juts to turn the corner and use it as a rhetoric weapon.

Tells us alot, doesn't it....

a reply to: network dude

Just to put this in perspective, all black people aren't dumber than white people, they aren't all superior athletes, and they aren't all (anything), they are individuals, just like white people, or Japanese people, or Brazilian people. So to know that's true, but to claim "the joos!!" is kind of showing just how little brain power you are capable of displaying.

I wonder how many members that starred your OP sided with Scott Adams when he said something to the effect of not wanting to live in a neighborhood where there are black people.

Or those who hold the view that all Muslims are backward barbarians. Would it be appropriate to call them mooslims for dramatic effect? Nah, that's just as stupid as saying joos or Drumpf.

Or that all Palestinians including babies are Hamas and therefore valid targets.

The whole problem with the way this OP smells is that you are basically virtue signaling for your side, and you seem unaware of how ironic you've become.

Remember when virtue signaling was a thing lefties did?

Of course there are Jewish people who see what's happening in the Middle East and are absolutely disgusted with the way Zionism has highjacked 'the Jewish cause' and became the monster their grandparents fought against and many more were murdered for in cold blood.

Max Blumenthal and Aaron Matte and Russell Dobular and Norm Finkelstein to name but a few, prominent and brilliant voices who does not support the genocide in Gaza.

Your side calls them "self-hating joos", instantly dehumanizing them when you invalidate their position by default.

Tell me which side of the coin refuses to accept criticism of their views? Is it only one side or have both reached a point where they will not tolerate the very existence of the other?


The history of the Jewish people in Germany is a long one with Jews being expelled hundreds of times since 1200 AD, many times for subversion.

Nobody talks about that.

The debauchery of the Weimar era with live animal sex shows, do you know of any names of the famous performers of that time?

Look at how Hollywood has degraded American culture through the decades.

Look at how the music industry and the CIA was behind most of the hip-hop scene since it's creation and see what that did to entire generations glorifying a gangster lifestyle.

Look at black music and culture before the drugs came in courtesy of your Intel agencies.

Even Netanyahu has claimed that Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews. He wanted them out of Germany and into a created state of Israel. Which technically made him a Zionist.

But World Jewry (or da Joos as you call them) declared war on Hitler in 1933.

To put that into perspective, WW2 kicked off in 1939.

Germany stood up on its own two feet after being financially crippled after WW1.

They became the economic powerhouse of Europe in a few short years and they did so without the 'help' of a Rothschild bank.

That scared the bankers because other countries could follow suit if they realized how the global federal reserve banks own nations through an ever tightening debt trap.

History is nuanced and you know it Network Dude.

But all we get is the story as the victors relay it from their perspective.

You know the nefarious circumstances surrounding the creation of your Fed and who runs it.

You know that the plan to create chaos in the middle East and divide up the oil profits and run the world through the petrodollar was a scheme that was devised as far back as the end of WW2.

Do you know how many American heroes died in opposition to this?

Have you heard some American presidents warning you of exactly what's happening now and have done so for decades?

Do you know the story of Smedley Butler, one of the most incredible American patriots who ever lived?

Now imagine all the oil was found in Europe instead of the middle East.

Would you have been OK with the US overthrowing the government of England and install a theocracy like they did with Iran in the 50s?

Would you be OK with France trying to do away with the petrodollar like Libya did and then Hillary Clinton proclaiming 'We came, we saw, he died" as they dragged Macrons lifeless body through the streets as the country imploded upon itself?

Would you be OK with the USAF bombing 10s of thousands of Mexican children because of the fentanyl problem coming from across their border that's killing thousands of Americans?



My question to you, Network Dude, is this:


Have you instinctively picked a side without considering the moral dilemma that that creates?

I know you can write a more nuanced take than this and quite frankly I'm disappointed how many people on here have become one dimensional mouthpieces aiding in escalating the threat to us all. WW3.


Many have tried to warn the Zionists that escalation with Gaza will lead to untold death and destruction in Israel and yet they seem not to care or believe it.

And then there are others that believe this is all part of their 'God of love' s plan to usher in his return.


I'm deeply worried about all of our childrens future and the idiots spanning over all living generations cheering on this mad ride towards annihilation.

Look at all the brutal carnage visited to people all over the world and tell me TPTB wouldn't dare do it to Americans because you are special.