Russian intelligence officer: explosions at defense factories in the USA and Wales may be sabotage

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: FlyersFan

Unlike your Ukrainian or Israeli satellites, neither the Russian nor the Welsh workers set out to kill ordinary people. only equipment failure.

So. Russia just targets malls and POWs in barracks.

You want real sabotages?

Olenivka prison massacre


The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces said that the Russians blew up the barracks in order to cover up the torture and murder of Ukrainian POWs that had been taking place there, and Ukrainian authorities provided what they said were satellite images of pre-dug graves and intercepted communications indicating Russian culpability,[2][3] while Russians suggested that a HIMARS rocket was shot from Ukrainian territory.[4] Independent investigations based on the work of forensic and weapons experts, as well as satellite images, found that the Russian version of events is very likely fabrication and disinformation, as there is virtually no chance that the damage was caused by a HIMARS rocket and instead evidence suggests the prison was blown up by a bomb detonated within the building.[5][6][3]

en.m.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=On%2029%20July%202022%2C%20during,leaving%2075%20to%20130%20wounded.

At least in the USA opinions evolve like using the spin of WMD and the truth comes out. You seem to keep drinking the Putin cool aid.

a reply to: RussianTroll

What do Ukrainian or Israeli satellites have to do with a blast at a factory in South Wales?

Accidents happen, and that's what this is.

As to workers, they seem to be all present and accounted for, which is another plus point regarding the incident in question.

a reply to: Lazy88

They are chattering, my dear, in MI6 and the propaganda media of the West. I provided the facts.

You've resorted to personal insults. Troll - goodbye, I hate talking to you.

originally posted by: Lazy88
As far as the scranton army ammunition plant fire.
It’s a foundry. Fires happen at foundries.

YEP. Local News Report Scranton

The fire was so unimportant that no news except the local news in Scranton carried it. The major national news saw it as a nothingburger. The fire was in the heat treat building of the foundry. Information on what goes into heat treating .. HERE . A munitions foundry will be a bit different, of course, but that's basically what goes on with heat treating of metals. It's all high temp stuff with fire. So fires do happen at times in foundries.

The thing only happened about three days ago. There probably will be an internal plant investigation. There will be an OSHA investigation. Might be a fire department and CSB investigation.

Yeah ... the fire just happened and the investigation hasn't even barely started yet ... but this YUTZ on the other side of the world in Russia is screaming 'sabotage' . It's ridiculous.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Lazy88

I provided the facts.

What evidence do you have the scranton army ammunition plant fire was sabotage other than propaganda. Especially when anywhere from one to four civilian agencies will investigate the incident. And probably the insurance company too.

a reply to: FlyersFan

In general, everything is happening extremely slowly. For example, while your services cannot free the Baltimore Bridge from metal structures, the Russians have long been restoring the Crimean Bridge.))))
This seems like an advantage to you, but throughout the civilized technological world it is considered a sign of decline and degradation.)))

a reply to: Lazy88

What evidence do you have of your dozens of posts?
Don't consider all other people idiots and second-class people, or you will simply disappear from world civilization.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Russian authorities must be getting pretty anxious over any mention of sabotage and must nervously twitch when ever the word is even mentioned.

www.themoscowtimes.com...

The number of acts of sabotage in Russia has more than doubled so far in 2023 compared to the previous year amid the war in Ukraine, the independent news site Vyorstka reported Monday.

At least 57 attacks on Russian railways, military enlistment centers, energy sites and other targets were publicly reported in January-May 2023.

That compares with 21 similar attacks in 2022 and only one in 2021.

Nearly two-thirds of this year’s attacks targeted railway tracks.

At least 26 Russian regions including annexed Crimea have experienced at least one such attack, with the Moscow region in the lead at nine.

May saw the highest number of acts of sabotage at 14, followed by 12 each in January, February and April.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I have no idea what any of that is about. None.
Got a feeling it's got nothing to do with the topic though.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Just like your posts on this topic.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: RussianTroll
According to him, ordinary workers and employees may be involved in the incidents, “some of them, at a certain moment, when there was such an opportunity, began to carry out sabotage and sabotage.”

Pffft .. like this guy sitting Russia is going to know that? Poppycock. He has no special knowledge. He hasn't been to the sites and investigated. He hasn't interrogated any employees. He's just spewing word vomit. No credibility and no reason to listen to him.

BTW ... haven't heard of any fires at 'defense enterprises' in the USA or England.
If there were, it's not a big deal. The news isn't picking up on it.

Did they not pick it up because they are no big thing...like the food factory fires?

Or did they not pick it up because "the less we know... "?

Me?

I agree with RT.

There are so many things Like this happening.

It is not coincidence it is happening.

It is not coincidence that it isn't in the news.

Other than being a Flyer's fan, I thought you were smart enough to know this.

a reply to: Kurokage

ahhh .. that might explain it. This nobody Russian on the other side of the planet, spouting nonsense about 'sabotage' happening in England and America, probably got triggered because so much of it is happening in Russia, he wanted it to be happening to England and America as well. Even though it's obvious that it's not sabotage, he spewed that it was just to make himself feel better about his own Russian situation.

Okay ... that makes sense.

a reply to: Kurokage

Russia is fighting against NATO, and you... what... are you fighting?
Write that no.)))
It turns out that you are also fighting against Russia)))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Lazy88

What evidence do you have of your dozens of posts?
Don't consider all other people idiots and second-class people, or you will simply disappear from world civilization.

Cited sources. Evidence adds up in a logical way. For your Russian mine alien helmet propaganda. Provided an explanation why the imagine of the helmet was a generated fake. From a lack of detail / resolution for the ground the helmet was on. And compared it a real photo of a hard hat on the actual ground / gravel. You know actual evidence and logic.

originally posted by: theatreboy

Did they not pick it up because they are no big thing...like the food factory fires?

Or did they not pick it up because "the less we know... "?

They didn't pick it up because it's a nothingburger. Foundries have fires from time to time. And a shell will explode from time to time. In both cases no one was hurt and damage was minimal. Obviously they were just plant accidents and not sabotage. If it were sabotage, there would have been a lot more damage and someone probably would have made a political statement in order to make a point about why the events happened. There has been no such statement.

a reply to: Lazy88

Yes, throw it and grind it. Your posts are typical propaganda to the extreme)))

originally posted by: FlyersFan

Yeah ... the fire just happened and the investigation hasn't even barely started yet ... but this YUTZ on the other side of the world in Russia is screaming 'sabotage' . It's ridiculous.

If people or human error was involved. Probably don’t even have the mandatory drug tests back.

😁

a reply to: RussianTroll

the Russians have long been restoring the Crimean Bridge.))))

Now thats some real sabotage right there, and please tell us why the bridge has been sabotaged several times? Could it be the fact that Putin has stolen Crimea and is attempting to steal more land from Ukraine with its illegal invasion and murdering of civilians? You guys keep repairing it so it can be knocked out again, must be a pretty big drain on the tarmacing aand pothole funds!!!

What We Know About the Attack on the Crimean Bridge

Monday’s strike was the second in less than a year to target the Kerch Strait Bridge, which holds strategic and symbolic importance for Russia.

For the second time in less than a year, explosives have damaged the bridge that links Russia and Crimea, the southern Ukrainian peninsula that Moscow illegally annexed in 2014. The 12-mile-long bridge, which includes a road and rail line running side by side, is a heavily guarded piece of infrastructure that holds major importance for Russia.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Lazy88

Yes, throw it and grind it. Your posts are typical propaganda to the extreme)))

Then what evidence do you have the scranton army ammunition plant was sabotage other than propaganda?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: theatreboy

Did they not pick it up because they are no big thing...like the food factory fires?

Or did they not pick it up because "the less we know... "?

They didn't pick it up because it's a nothingburger. Foundries have fires from time to time. And a shell will explode from time to time. In both cases no one was hurt and damage was minimal. Obviously they were just plant accidents and not sabotage. If it were sabotage, there would have been a lot more damage and someone probably would have made a political statement in order to make a point about why the events happened. There has been no such statement.

In my day, you don't claim responsibility...it keeps people off balance not knowing.

When a terrorist group claims responsibility...it was probably an alphabet agency act.

It is not terror when you know who is doing it...that is just plan murder/assault.

It is just like the protesters that block traffic.

All you are doing is turning people off your cause.

You blow something up and they know it was you means they focus on you.

Blow something up and don't take responsibility, we'll now people are just scrambling bc they don't know where to look.