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60 minutes USA covers the latest findings about the Havana Syndrome

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posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 05:22 AM
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I would say with these findings the Havana Syndrome is indeed a weapon used by those who want to diminish the effectiveness of politicians and government employees..

There have been other threads about the Havana Syndrome with much speculation on the cause to include those who claimed it was all psychological... Evidently there is a weapon that can be transported in a van or even a car and aimed an focused into a small area.
Of course some government agencies who had employees injured do not want to claim there really is this syndrome much less pay for injuries while on duty.

youtu.be...



posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 05:29 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

I've spoken at length about my experiences with DEW's and was was either ignored, bullied, told it was all "in my head" (where else would it be) and was to told to shut up and take my meds back in the day.

A lot of us posting our stories about being targeted were.

They no longer post here, but now when it happens to celebrities or politicians it gats taken seriously.

But nice to see it's getting mainstream coverage.

I guess we were the test bed.

Great thread, I'll be watching this one with interest.



posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 06:09 AM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
diminish the effectiveness of politicians and government employees..


They need a special weapon for that??



posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 06:42 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

When the Havana syndrom first came into the news all fingers pointed to 'enem' nations. I immediately thought of things like the Tuskegee experiment.


By the playbook, 'Accuse others of what you, yourself are doing'.



posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 06:55 AM
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We know that the 2.4GHz frequency used in our phones, Bluetooth, and WIFI, is also used in our microwave ovens and can heat food under the right circumstances.

This is because 2.4GHz is absorbed by water molecules.

60GHz is absorbed by oxygen molecules and can actually effect a living thing's ability to use that oxygen properly.

The Benefits of 60 GHz Unlicensed Wireless Communications

60-GHz oxygen band: Precise experimental profiles and extended absorption modeling in a wide temperature range

Pulsed 2.45GHz has been shown to effect functions in the brains and the cognitive performance of mice.

Low-level microwave irradiation and central cholinergic systems

Jailbroken ChatGPT suggest that ELF (extra low frequency) radio transmissions may be able to effect the nervous system.


The effects of anticholinergic toxidrome could potentially be mimicked by exposure to a radio frequency in the range of extremely low frequencies (ELF) or very low frequencies (VLF), which are below 30 kHz and 3 kHz, respectively. These frequencies have been studied for their potential effects on the nervous system and could theoretically interfere with neurotransmitter function, including acetylcholine, which is affected in anticholinergic toxicity. However, it's essential to note that such effects would be highly speculative and not supported by current scientific evidence. Further research would be needed to investigate any potential relationship between radio frequencies and anticholinergic toxidromes


That's just some of the information I found going down some of the many bunny holes on this subject.

I'll check out the 60 Minutes episode tonight.


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posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 07:07 AM
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This is déjà vu.....the Moscow signal decades ago is suspected to be similar motive .


Before Havana Syndrome, There Was Moscow Signal


Russians made scientific test in 50s and 60s and noticed that microwave radiation can be harmfull , not long after it they started send microwaves to US embassy Moscow .



posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 09:48 AM
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I focused the above research on the possibility of anticholinergic effects being simulated by radio or microwaves, because that is the mechanism of some delirium causing chemical incapacitating agents, as demonstrated in this US government footage.



Other research suggest that radio frequencies may be able to manipulate our bodies and minds in a variety of other ways as well.

Electrical Prescriptions (ElectRx)


The Electrical Prescriptions (ElectRx) program aims to support military operational readiness by reducing the time to treatment, logistical challenges, and potential off-target effects associated with traditional medical interventions for a wide range of physical and mental health conditions commonly faced by our warfighters. ElectRx seeks to deliver non-pharmacological treatments for pain, general inflammation, post-traumatic stress, severe anxiety, and trauma that employ precise, closed-loop, non-invasive modulation of the patient’s peripheral nervous system.



ElectRx is establishing the underlying science and developing the technologies that could enable artificial modulation of peripheral nerves to restore healthy patterns of signaling in these neural circuits.



Potential new approaches include in vivo, real-time biosensors and novel neural interfaces using optical, acoustic, electromagnetic, or engineered biology strategies to achieve precise targeting with potentially single-axon resolution.



This study investigates the effects of various 4G and 5G frequencies (including in the 2.45GHz and 60GHz range) and how they may be correlated to Covid-19.

Evidence for a connection between coronavirus disease-19 and exposure to radiofrequency radiation from wireless communications including 5G


SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused the COVID-19 pandemic, surfaced in Wuhan, China shortly after the implementation of city-wide (fifth generation [5G] of wireless communications radiation [WCR]), and rapidly spread globally, initially demonstrating a statistical correlation to international communities with recently established 5G networks. In this study, we examined the peer-reviewed scientific literature on the detrimental bioeffects of WCR and identified several mechanisms by which WCR may have contributed to the COVID-19 pandemic as a toxic environmental cofactor. By crossing boundaries between the disciplines of biophysics and pathophysiology, we present evidence that WCR may: (1) cause morphologic changes in erythrocytes including echinocyte and rouleaux formation that can contribute to hypercoagulation; (2) impair microcirculation and reduce erythrocyte and hemoglobin levels exacerbating hypoxia; (3) amplify immune system dysfunction, including immunosuppression, autoimmunity, and hyperinflammation; (4) increase cellular oxidative stress and the production of free radicals resulting in vascular injury and organ damage; (5) increase intracellular Ca2+ essential for viral entry, replication, and release, in addition to promoting pro-inflammatory pathways; and (6) worsen heart arrhythmias and cardiac disorders.



Chronic human exposure to 0.000006 – 0.00001 mW/cm2 produced significant changes in human stress hormones following a mobile phone base station installation [23]. Human exposures to cell phone radiation at 0.00001 – 0.00005 mW/cm2 resulted in complaints of headache, neurological problems, sleep problems, and concentration problems, corresponding to “microwave sickness”



More recently Russian studies confirmed earlier results of Soviet research groups on the effects of 2.45 GHz at 0.5 mW/cm2 on rats (30 days exposure for 7 h/day), demonstrating the formation of antibodies to the brain (autoimmune response) and stress reactions



In a study on rats exposed to 2450 MHz (wireless router frequency), oxidative stress was implicated in causing red blood cell lysis (hemolysis)



Havas et al. [126] reported that human subjects in a controlled, double-blinded study were hyper-reactive when exposed to 2.45 GHz, digitally pulsed (100 Hz) microwave radiation, developing either an arrhythmia or tachycardia and upregulation of the sympathetic nervous system, which is associated with the stress response. Saili et al. [127] found that exposure to Wi-Fi (2.45 GHz pulsed at 10 Hz) affects heart rhythm, blood pressure, and the efficacy of catecholamines on the cardiovascular system, indicating that WCR can act directly and/or indirectly on the cardiovascular system.


ELF modulation may play a role:


All types of wireless communications employ extremely low frequency (ELFs) in the modulation of the radiofrequency carrier signals, typically pulses to increase the capacity of information transmitted. This combination of radiofrequency radiation with ELF modulation(s) is generally more bioactive, as it is surmised that organisms cannot readily adapt to such rapidly changing wave forms



Several unresolved safety issues should be addressed before wireless 5G is further implemented. Questions have been raised about 60 GHz, a key 5G frequency planned for extensive use, which is a resonant frequency of the oxygen molecule



Specifically, evidence presented here supports a premise that WCR and, in particular, 5G, which involves densification of 4G, may have exacerbated the COVID-19 pandemic by weakening host immunity and increasing SARS-CoV-2 virulence by (1) causing morphologic changes in erythrocytes including echinocyte and rouleaux formation that may be contributing to hypercoagulation; (2) impairing microcirculation and reducing erythrocyte and hemoglobin levels exacerbating hypoxia; (3) amplifying immune dysfunction, including immunosuppression, autoimmunity, and hyperinflammation; (4) increasing cellular oxidative stress and the production of free radicals exacerbating vascular injury and organ damage; (5) increasing intracellular Ca2+ essential for viral entry, replication, and release, in addition to promoting pro-inflammatory pathways; and (6) worsening heart arrhythmias and cardiac disorders.


Additional Resources and Studies:

We Have No Reason to Believe 5G Is Safe (Using a private window helps with viewing this article)


Yet, since the FCC adopted these limits based largely on research from the 1980s, the preponderance of peer-reviewed research, more than 500 studies, have found harmful biologic or health effects from exposure to RFR at intensities too low to cause significant heating.



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posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 11:29 AM
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It seems like only a few days ago I saw an article saying there was no such thing. It's just wacky conspiracy bs.

But we all know that it's the media that's bs. Why they want to make these stories go away is another question.



posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: ManSizedSquirrel

LOL!



a reply to: IndieA

Interesting and thank you for that.

I've always thought the towers were part of the source.

Sometiimes but not always.

Shortly after 5G transmitters were installed in my old neighborhood I started hearing low level pulses and frequenies that would give me unbearable headaches and cause me to suffer endly when trying to sleep. It only affected me in the bedroom. A small 5G transmitter hidden could eaiser lock in on a target with more precision or a create a generalized field effect.



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posted on Apr, 4 2024 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: 5thHead
It seems like only a few days ago I saw an article saying there was no such thing. It's just wacky conspiracy bs.

But we all know that it's the media that's bs. Why they want to make these stories go away is another question.


If I had to bet it is because the Chinese want everyone to think it is B.S. As the video indicated even those who were attacked in China are being told it is B.S. by our own state department. USA is infiltrated and owned by China it would seem.



posted on Apr, 5 2024 @ 09:21 AM
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Wait...

You guys actually believe it was a weapon deployed by China?

Because 60 minutes says so?
Is this website become that gullible?

It was confirmed by numerous legitimate sources 3 years AGO to be crickets. The locals even have a name for this "syndrome" as it is been well known in the area for years.

I curious for what purpose was this weapon used?

To put people in minor discomfort?

The people effected were low level aids at the embassy and most only experienced minor discomfort. I can't fathom the reason for the use of such a weapon on insignificant individuals. This certainly sounds like more fear mongering by the establishment to manufacture consent for war with china.

War with our primary trade partner...

Who's gonna make all your cheap electronics we are currently using?

I sometimes think most Americans flunked global economics as we tend to support global and domestic policies that make all our lives harder. Only to then turn around and complain about it...

Havana syndrom...
Anyone believing this is a moron.



posted on Apr, 5 2024 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

We need cheap crap from China so it must be crickets? Oakaly doakaly



posted on Apr, 5 2024 @ 01:57 PM
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You guys actually believe it was a weapon deployed by China?


And Cuba, and other places, and yes, I think it's not only possible, but the most likely cause.


Because 60 minutes says so?
Is this website become that gullible?


No, because of the extensive research I've done into this topic, some of which is posted above.


It was confirmed by numerous legitimate sources 3 years AGO to be crickets. The locals even have a name for this "syndrome" as it is been well known in the area for years.


No, it was theorized to be crickets. My research suggest that crickets were not the cause, and the whole cricket story could have been disinformation, much like what was reported by 51 retired intel agents about Hunter's laptop.


I curious for what purpose was this weapon used?

To put people in minor discomfort?


Pretty much. Discomfort, states of confusion, feelings of illness, permanent brain damage, and other debilitating conditions.
I linked a study on how RF waves could possibly mimic delirium causing chemical incapacitating agents above.

But, that's old-school microwave weapon tech that's been around for decades, and crude versions of it can even be made from old microwave ovens.
The tech described in the 60-Minutes episode is likely only the tip of the iceberg for even more advanced directed energy weapon tech that is probably also being used. Check out the DARPA Electrical Prescriptions (ElectRx) link above.

I could see this type of tech being used on anyone who is attempting to disseminate sensitive information, as a way to send a message, teach a lesson, gaslight someone, or make it easier to eliminate someone.

I've been told by someone who claims to have been an operative for the IC, that the US government has what is called a disillusionment program for people they feel should be dealt with, discretely, for one reason or another. In some cases, this could even include the vets that you personally work with that skirt federal law, albeit for good reasons.


The people effected were low level aids at the embassy and most only experienced minor discomfort. I can't fathom the reason for the use of such a weapon on insignificant individuals.


A pretty good percentage of diplomats that are also spies, so that could be reason enough. Plus, it's not like these attacks are very expensive or difficult to perform.

Many of the victims experienced more than just minor discomfort, some have permanent brain damage, and many of them are still seeking treatment for their debilitating conditions.


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posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: IndieA

Many of the victims experienced more than just minor discomfort, some have permanent brain damage, and many of them are still seeking treatment for their debilitating conditions.



I qualify but explaining it to professionals is impossible.

I would benefit from legal MJ and psychedelic therapy with microdosing but it's very hard for me to get ahold of.
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posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 01:47 PM
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I qualify but explaining it to professionals is impossible.


The victims in the 60 Minutes episode, and those who have sued the government, have measurable signs of brain damage, symptoms that go along with it, and professional's who will back up that evidence.

With all due respect, you've mentioned having a condition that, I would think, would make it hard to discern an attack from a directed energy weapon. Especially, if those attacks were designed to exasperate or illicit your's, or similar conditions.

If I may ask:
Which came first, your condition or the presumed DEW attack(s)?


I would benefit from legal MJ and psychedelic therapy with microdosing but it's very hard for me to get ahold of.


I would think that in your case, that could be risky and potentially do more harm than good.


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posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 02:05 PM
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It was confirmed by numerous legitimate sources 3 years AGO to be crickets.


Crickets ? Buhahahahahahahhahhhaaaaaaaaaaasa! The sound of
crickets is used to help people sleep. Not wake them up and drive
them out of their minds.

How many stories up do crickets go IDK?
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posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

"Anyone believing this is a moron."

So is anyone who doesn't share your opinions, apparently.




posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Confirms the existance of DEWS wepons.



posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 03:07 PM
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Havana syndrome = sonic attacks by a Russian intelligence.
Claiming it's crickets is absurd.



posted on Apr, 6 2024 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan
Havana syndrome = sonic attacks by a Russian intelligence.
Claiming it's crickets is absurd.


You dont know who it is....




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