Republican Voters Against Trump

originally posted by: Dandandat3
reply to: nugget1

I think it is ultimately a defeatist attitude to imagine some deep state liberal cabal that the normal citizenry needs to weed out.

The liberal tribe through decades of dogmatic conditioning have become the primary cultural of society and the conservatives (after spending a century as the primary culture) are now the counter culture.

You aren't going to "weed out" anyone; because it is not a person you need to worry about but idealism.

What the conservative counter culture needs to do is convince people that the dominant liberal culture is oppressive and antithetical to tolerance and individual freedom.

The shoe is now on the other foot and society needs to adjust before the intolerant liberal idealism brings us down a road non of us want to go down.

The 'deep state' is the vast group of people who collaberate to make sure only those in agreement with their future plans are put in places of power.
Do you think all the MSM fueling of division 24/7 is accidental, or because nearly all media is under liberal control.

Perhaps a massive group-think tank has managed to place enough like-minded people in mall the top positions. Was it 'accidental', or a plan that's been unfoldeing for decades?

Obama replaced 197 top military personel in five years with liberal 'yes' men. I suppose he could have been acting on his own, without a long-range plan, but I doubt that.

Deep State, Cabal, Liberal Idealists-whatever you want to call them, the end result is the same. The ballance of power has bee too one-sided for much too long-to the point the RNC has deeply embedded liberal idealists. All that's needed is to tip the ballance in the SCOTUS, and they seem to have a plan for that.

originally posted by: lilzazz
a reply to: GENERAL EYES

Not everyone is cut out for a Technocracy.

True... I don't think we need to worry about that however.

Imo....our next "cracy" will be a Theocracy.

www.businessinsider.com...

The next crazy is here and you are a card-carrying member of it.

I was in a light-hearted discussion the other day about why the left can't meme.

Someone gave an answer that made it clearer for me....

It's not that the left can't meme per se, it's that their viewpoints rely on a carefully constructed denial of reality, to a far greater extent than any of the cults or religions they seek to supplant. This doesn't lend itself to simple, easily conveyed messages because if you rely on your viewers to see things as they are without providing several layers of carefully selected context, they will interpret it the wrong way. The left can't meme because memes are the antithesis of how they communicate.

Your fear of a Theocracy is unfounded.

You should instead fear being a member of the cult you currently follow.



ETA: Because I already know your response but am going to bed, I completely understand why you don't understand that.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: chr0naut

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Record employment, wage increases, more businesses expanding, energy independence.

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We have all that under Biden, as well. Mainly because whoever happens to be POTUS at any given time doesn't really control those variables directly.

a reply to: gortex

Evenin' where you are brother! Both are undeserving.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

I was told by a confidant in High School that the plans for those in the New World Order were to be "consumers".

Are we not there?

a reply to: SchrodingersRat

Yep.

This is the kind of stuff I grew up with once I reached High School.

I know the drill.

INNOCULATE YOURSELF FROM MIND CONTROL.

It's just another layer of propaganda.

I once went to a rave and they were showing a film reel with the phrase QUESTION AUTHORITY THINK FOR YOURSELF and I muttered "don't tell me what to do" and walked away.

a reply to: watchitburn

Every single BS thing people criticize him for was fabricated by the establishment.

While a lot of it was fabricated or exaggerated, he was far from perfect or even good.

He added as much debt as Obama in half the time, and we printed trillions of dollars which led to inflation.

He also had operation warp speed, we paid for the R&D, then paid for the doses after the fact which led to record profits for the shots. We even shielded the companies from any liability should something go wrong.

I wouldn’t die on a hill to say who’s better between Trump and Biden since they’re both garbage tier.

But there’s no premise for the narrative Trump was an exceptional, much less even good president.

The economy looked great short term, but that was largely due to policies that were like credit cards and we feel the fallout now. He didn’t drain any swamps.

I’ll give him overhauling the VA and ISIS largely fell under his watch.

It really does amaze me the ridiculous BS people think. From what I have witnessed from the UK is, Trump really never caused that much damage to the US. Whereas Biden!!!!!! What I see now is the US on the brink of collapse with very evil, self centred people running the show. And all you witter on about is "if Trump gets in it'll be worse". Like how worse and please don't give me the feelz about Trump and Putin being friends.

a reply to: Lumenari

Your fear of a Theocracy is unfounded.

Perhaps, but I'm a committed survivalist and prepared just the same. If the worst does transpire; I wish you and your family well!!

Our lifetime Republican family members who did vote trump will not vote Republican again, including myself and husband. We are military veterans, lost our clinics under trump, lost my healthcare, couldn't get a disability raise, and 9 members of our family and friends died of covid, they believed they were safe because they believed trump, it will go away in 2 weeks bull#. trump killed them.

originally posted by: Hakaiju
a reply to: Threadbarer

It is just my opinion, but I find it hard to believe anyone who considers themselves Republican or conservative would vote for biden under any circumstances.

My 83 year old Republican, conservative, Evangelical mother, tells me she can't support the GOP wanting to trash SS and medicare and will not vote for the Republicans this time. And most of the BlueHairs in her bridge club, echo her sentiments.

www.businessinsider.com...

Tie that to the roe v. wade cluster **** and the GOP is plotting their own demise in November. The independents will determine the outcome....

a reply to: BlueBaby1

trump killed them.

originally posted by: BlueBaby1
9 members of our family and friends died of covid, they believed they were safe because they believed trump, it will go away in 2 weeks bull#. trump killed them.

That's so dumb. Seriously. Trump never said it would go away in two weeks. He did what Fauci said and shut everything down for a month or so because he was told it would 'flatten the curve'. Everyone listened to Fauci ... and that's what the left wing pushed. But no one ever said it would go away in two weeks and no, Trump didn't kill anyone nor did his COVID policies.

a reply to: RazorV66

Happy Freakin' Oyster RazorV66 . Where the Puck am I ?

originally posted by: lilzazz
My 83 year old Republican, conservative, Evangelical mother, tells me she can't support the GOP wanting to trash SS and medicare and will not vote for the Republicans this time. And most of the BlueHairs in her bridge club, echo her sentiments.

www.businessinsider.com...

Tie that to the roe v. wade cluster **** and the GOP is plotting their own demise in November. The independents will determine the outcome....

Your linked to an article that had no facts on any program cuts, it was entirely speculation of what could be cut.

40 times the POS said it was disappearing, he said in April the heat would make it go away. It is so documented, how tf did you miss the old pos saying it, over and over and over? People listened, and died. If only they DID listen to the science! But they listened to that old fool,trump.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: BlueBaby1
9 members of our family and friends died of covid, they believed they were safe because they believed trump, it will go away in 2 weeks bull#. trump killed them.

That's so dumb. Seriously. Trump never said it would go away in two weeks. He did what Fauci said and shut everything down for a month or so because he was told it would 'flatten the curve'. Everyone listened to Fauci ... and that's what the left wing pushed. But no one ever said it would go away in two weeks and no, Trump didn't kill anyone nor did his COVID policies.

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originally posted by: BlueBaby1
Our lifetime Republican family members who did vote trump will not vote Republican again, including myself and husband. We are military veterans, lost our clinics under trump, lost my healthcare, couldn't get a disability raise, and 9 members of our family and friends died of covid, they believed they were safe because they believed trump, it will go away in 2 weeks bull#. trump killed them.

originally posted by: Hakaiju
a reply to: Threadbarer

It is just my opinion, but I find it hard to believe anyone who considers themselves Republican or conservative would vote for biden under any circumstances.

Sounds like a very imbellished post.🤔🤷‍♂️

Funny that part of my family in Seattle are moving to the reddest county in Washington and refuse to vote for another Democrat. I know a couple of other lifetime Democrats that will not vote for Biden no matter what because of the disaster he’s been. Anyone that thinks we need 4 more years of this dumpster fire they call Biden and the democrat party needs their head examined.

Trump killed 9 of your family and friends, really?

What exactly did he say that killed them? Im very curious, please post a link to the actual statement that killed them

How about a link where he said it was going away in two weeks? Can you post that too please. I don’t remember him ever saying it would be gone in two weeks, not saying he didn’t but I certainly never heard that.

Are you talking about this statement?

You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April.

Or this maybe?

It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.

I find it absurd that anyone thinks the approach to tackle Covid and the end results would’ve been any different with any other prez. CDC and Fauci were the ones making the decisions and recommendations on community safety, not Trump. Odd I don’t hear anyone blaming them when they had more to do with the country’s safety than Trump did.

Does anyone else remember Democrats calling Trump racist for trying to implement a travel ban to help keep the country safe? The left was losing their # over it. They didn’t want him to do that🙄

How about when Pelosi was telling everyone to come down to shop and dine in Chinatown when Covid was kicking in to gear?

Or when Broadway was saying come to a show it’s fine?

I also remember Biden during his reelection campaign saying “any prez with more than 200k deaths shouldn’t be president”. The bumbling idiot proceeded to smash that number. Biden really saved the day there, yeah?

I remember all of the nonsense they were saying and then turning around and blaming trump in the same breath. Total clown show from the left. Always the hypocrites.

Being a vet how did you lose healthcare?
What clinic did you lose and why?
What disability raise were you supposed to get that you didn’t because of Trump?

I have to question the intelligence of anyone that would listen to any president on how they should handle their own medical preparedness or solutions to a virus that had just been detected. Thank goodness he didn’t tell anyone to go jump off a bridge.

originally posted by: BlueBaby1
People listened, and died. If only they DID listen to the science! But they listened to that old fool,trump.

What exactly did he supposedly say that killed people?
What exactly did they do that he supposedly told them to do that killed them?

He talked about social distancing.
He talked about wearing masks.
He talked about working from home and not going out.
He talked about trying to get a fast track vaccination.
He was asked when he thought it would be over, and he said that he was told 'maybe Summer'.
How is saying he was told 'maybe summer' killing people?
How did that supposedly change anyones behavior and make them catch COVID?
Answer ... it didn't.
And what "science" were they ignoring in order to listen to Trump, that could have saved them?
Answer .. none.

Trump didn't kill anyone. That's ridiculous.

originally posted by: lilzazz
My 83 year old Republican, conservative, Evangelical mother, tells me she can't support the GOP wanting to trash SS and medicare and will not vote for the Republicans this time. And most of the BlueHairs in her bridge club, echo her sentiments.

www.businessinsider.com...

Tie that to the roe v. wade cluster **** and the GOP is plotting their own demise in November. The independents will determine the outcome....

SS and Medicare will be Completely Bankrupt by 2035 no Matter who is Running the Federal Government . c'est la vie

a reply to: BlueBaby1

There is only one person to blame when…
YOU GOT JABBED IN A PARKING LOT BY A STRANGER WITH A DRUG YOU KNEW NOTHING ABOUT JUST TO GET A FREE DONUT.

There is only one president to blame when he mandated those jabs…..Biden.