Krystallnacht

a reply to: gortex

The US itself has ignored breaking into and occupying govt facilities several times in the last few years.

All dem / left causes. Federal and state facilities.

You have got to come up with cleaner, truer stories.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: arcticshuffle

Was the German economy that connected to Jewish finance and business?

Germany lost WW1. As a result Germany lot control of its economy. With those that took it over, strong Jewish sector wanted to destroy Germany with their economic policy. They done a good job at it with sustained money printing and hyper inflation.

The Jews printed German money ?

Wasn’t Germany already destroyed by the outcome of the war ?

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2
a reply to: arcticshuffle

No, you really haven't. They broke the law, they got caught, admitted it and got prison sentences. End of story. If the boot had been on the other foot, if they had been Clinton supporters in 2017, you would have wanted the book thrown at them for riot & affray, or worse.
I'm sick and tired of trump supporters wailing about how hard done by their corrupt, bloated, god is. It was bad enough with some threads in 2020 that said that trump was about to be reinstated because of [insert unconstitutional nonsense here].
Comparing trump's situation now to Kristallnacht is ludicrous and offensive.

Nah, I’m against misuse of govt and the law at all times. I’m a grown man with some scruples.

Only you use annoying terms like lord, saviour, god for Trump.

You still keep announcing your grave insult and offense, never explaining why. Go ahead and WOW us with some details.

Oh dear.
Very well, it seems I must be specific & educate a few people.
Kristallnacht was horrific in every sense. The very name means 'night of broken glass' from all the windows smashed, but it went beyond that. The pretext for the attacks was the assassination of the German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris, but it really was an excuse for the Nazis to unleash their thugs on Germany's Jews in a pogrom of a horrific nature. Hundreds of properties were looted, burned and destroyed, the death toll was at least 91 people but probably a lot more and it was the first massive sign that the Holocaust was coming.
For many it was a wake-up call to the inherent violence - barbarism really - that ley at the heart of the Nazi regime, which was morally rotten to the core.
Comparing it with trump's legal woes - brought about by himself on himself - is frankly offensive. You are comparing the start of the nightmare that was the Holocaust, the maelstrom that saw around six million people murdered senselessly for no crime whatsoever, with trump facing the legal bill for years of highly dodgy business practices that defrauded banks and insurance companies, as well as the tax payer.
Erm - NO. There's absolutely no equivalence. It's absurd and I take grave offence at it.

a reply to: arcticshuffle

Ignore Kwaka, none of that was correct. If you're going to blame anyone for German hyperinflation of the early '20s, blame Rudolf Havenstein (who was not Jewish).

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2
a reply to: arcticshuffle

No, you really haven't. They broke the law, they got caught, admitted it and got prison sentences. End of story. If the boot had been on the other foot, if they had been Clinton supporters in 2017, you would have wanted the book thrown at them for riot & affray, or worse.
I'm sick and tired of trump supporters wailing about how hard done by their corrupt, bloated, god is. It was bad enough with some threads in 2020 that said that trump was about to be reinstated because of [insert unconstitutional nonsense here].
Comparing trump's situation now to Kristallnacht is ludicrous and offensive.

Nah, I’m against misuse of govt and the law at all times. I’m a grown man with some scruples.

Only you use annoying terms like lord, saviour, god for Trump.

You still keep announcing your grave insult and offense, never explaining why. Go ahead and WOW us with some details.

Oh dear.
Very well, it seems I must be specific & educate a few people.
Kristallnacht was horrific in every sense. The very name means 'night of broken glass' from all the windows smashed, but it went beyond that. The pretext for the attacks was the assassination of the German diplomat Ernst vom Rath by Herschel Grynszpan, a 17-year-old German-born Polish Jew living in Paris, but it really was an excuse for the Nazis to unleash their thugs on Germany's Jews in a pogrom of a horrific nature. Hundreds of properties were looted, burned and destroyed, the death toll was at least 91 people but probably a lot more and it was the first massive sign that the Holocaust was coming.
For many it was a wake-up call to the inherent violence - barbarism really - that ley at the heart of the Nazi regime, which was morally rotten to the core.
Comparing it with trump's legal woes - brought about by himself on himself - is frankly offensive. You are comparing the start of the nightmare that was the Holocaust, the maelstrom that saw around six million people murdered senselessly for no crime whatsoever, with trump facing the legal bill for years of highly dodgy business practices that defrauded banks and insurance companies, as well as the tax payer.
Erm - NO. There's absolutely no equivalence. It's absurd and I take grave offence at it.

Well, I think your personal opinions on the meanings of both of these historic occurrences are inaccurate, overstating when you need, and dismissive when you need. Krystallnacht is one of a thousand successive unique Nazi atrocities, not an overarching collection of everything they did. There’s your big problem. And big fake.

Thus, nobody cares about your “grave offence”.

When you use such overwrought dramatic prose, it’s not taken seriously. The fakery is obvious.

But clearly you can keep doing it all night long. We just don’t need to care.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: arcticshuffle

Actually, I've been viewing it more like Atlas Shrugged.

I like Ayn Rand.

In addition to "Atlas Shrugged" I also liked "The Fountainhead" and "Anthem".

Have you read those?

John Galt for President!!

BTW - I recently learned that she was Russian born and educated.

a reply to: arcticshuffle

I think that you'll find that others were offended as well.
The comparison remains ludicrous.
And please stop insulting people.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Anyhow, the only reason the Nazis were able to achieve what they did was because so many felt like their actions were just. If you can not see any of the parallels, or you choose to ignore them, you are complicit.

I suspect you feel justified. You probably consider yourself a champion for liberty and democracy

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Vermilion

1100 people being arrested for their actions and working their way through the judicial system is comparable to tens of thousands of people essentially being sentenced to death without any kind of trial simply because of the circumstances of their birth?

Dude!

No one is doing that except for the analogy of how Trump is being tarred & feathered by the liberal left and fined $450 million dollars by a liberal judge. And the analogy holds whether you like it or not.

You need to get off your high horse. It spooks easily when you're virtue signaling. You might hurt yourself.

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Vermilion

1100 people being arrested for their actions and working their way through the judicial system is comparable to tens of thousands of people essentially being sentenced to death without any kind of trial simply because of the circumstances of their birth?

Dude!

No one is doing that except for the analogy of how Trump is being tarred & feathered by the liberal left and fined $450 million dollars by a liberal judge. And the analogy holds whether you like it or not.

You need to get off your high horse. It spooks easily when you're virtue signaling. You might hurt yourself.

He was referring to the Holocaust & equating Kristallnacht with Trump's legal woes. The comparison is, as I have said, ludicrous.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Vermilion

1100 people being arrested for their actions and working their way through the judicial system is comparable to tens of thousands of people essentially being sentenced to death without any kind of trial simply because of the circumstances of their birth?

Dude!

No one is doing that except for the analogy of how Trump is being tarred & feathered by the liberal left and fined $450 million dollars by a liberal judge. And the analogy holds whether you like it or not.

You need to get off your high horse. It spooks easily when you're virtue signaling. You might hurt yourself.

He was referring to the Holocaust & equating Kristallnacht with Trump's legal woes. The comparison is, as I have said, ludicrous.

I was comparing the coordinated theft and destruction of people’s stuff for criminal / political purposes. Nothing else.

Let’s try to be honest now.

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Vermilion

1100 people being arrested for their actions and working their way through the judicial system is comparable to tens of thousands of people essentially being sentenced to death without any kind of trial simply because of the circumstances of their birth?

Dude!

No one is doing that except for the analogy of how Trump is being tarred & feathered by the liberal left and fined $450 million dollars by a liberal judge. And the analogy holds whether you like it or not.

You need to get off your high horse. It spooks easily when you're virtue signaling. You might hurt yourself.

He was referring to the Holocaust & equating Kristallnacht with Trump's legal woes. The comparison is, as I have said, ludicrous.

I was comparing the coordinated theft and destruction of people’s stuff for criminal / political purposes. Nothing else.

Let’s try to be honest now.

Yes, let us all be honest. You're the one that used the word 'Kristallnacht' in the title of this thread. You're the one that compared a horrific event to trump's legal woes, as if the two equated in any way.
And please stop insulting people.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Vermilion

1100 people being arrested for their actions and working their way through the judicial system is comparable to tens of thousands of people essentially being sentenced to death without any kind of trial simply because of the circumstances of their birth?

Dude!

No one is doing that except for the analogy of how Trump is being tarred & feathered by the liberal left and fined $450 million dollars by a liberal judge. And the analogy holds whether you like it or not.

You need to get off your high horse. It spooks easily when you're virtue signaling. You might hurt yourself.

He was referring to the Holocaust & equating Kristallnacht with Trump's legal woes. The comparison is, as I have said, ludicrous.

I agree 100%.

But I don't think he was equating, but rather making a point through analogy.

But your mileage may vary, etc.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2

originally posted by: arcticshuffle

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg2

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Vermilion

1100 people being arrested for their actions and working their way through the judicial system is comparable to tens of thousands of people essentially being sentenced to death without any kind of trial simply because of the circumstances of their birth?

Dude!

No one is doing that except for the analogy of how Trump is being tarred & feathered by the liberal left and fined $450 million dollars by a liberal judge. And the analogy holds whether you like it or not.

You need to get off your high horse. It spooks easily when you're virtue signaling. You might hurt yourself.

He was referring to the Holocaust & equating Kristallnacht with Trump's legal woes. The comparison is, as I have said, ludicrous.

I was comparing the coordinated theft and destruction of people’s stuff for criminal / political purposes. Nothing else.

Let’s try to be honest now.

Yes, let us all be honest. You're the one that used the word 'Kristallnacht' in the title of this thread. You're the one that compared a horrific event to trump's legal woes, as if the two equated in any way.
And please stop insulting people.

Like many things in life, we see what we want to see.

Doesn't make you wrong and him right. It's a matter of perspective.

originally posted by: arcticshuffle
Krystallnacht was a terrible event where the Nazis used gestapo tactics to take and/or destroy Jewish businesses, wealth, and really anything of beauty that was owned by Jews.

When discussing gestapo events and tactics, this one is often overlooked. Give it a look at wiki and see what you think.

In reply, please let us know what parallels you see in the current RICO-based effort against Trump’s property, businesses, wealth, and things of appeal or beauty.

I for one believe that it’s a remarkable re-boot of exactly what the Nazis did to the Jews. Shocking that these gestapo tactics are used right in our faces, in America, as pure politics.

Especially funny when he's compared with hitler and then unlawfully persecuted. Just remember "they" are not after Trump, they are after us, the citizens of the United states, and the Constitution that protects our liberties and civic values as a nation. He's blocking their path to a socialist republic and that's the truth of why they're so hellbent on his devastation.

a reply to: SchrodingersRat

This thread is titled Kristallnacht.

The OP compared Trump's legal woes to Kristallnacht.

There's no other way to take what the OP meant for this thread.

a reply to: arcticshuffle

This little tactic of inventing fake reasons to be “insulted” and “disgusted” is just not useful at all.

Yeah, thats straight out of the 'hard done by' Trump hand book right there...

a reply to: arcticshuffle

I was comparing the coordinated theft and destruction of people’s stuff for criminal / political purposes. Nothing else.

Let’s try to be honest now.

Yes, lets be honest now. As most have said here, You were trying to compare Trumps legal woes (that he's mostly bought on himself) to one of the most horrific acts in German history the beginning of the holocaust.