The Russian Ministry of Defense has published data on mercenaries killed in Ukraine

originally posted by: RussianTroll
USA - 491 out of 1113 killed;

Five pages and the OP hasn't answered my question. So here is a reminder. HOW does Russia supposedly know that there are 1113 Americans fighting in Ukraine? How did they come up with this number?

a reply to: twistedpuppy

Call them whatever you want. Tell me the name of at least one convicted Pole.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Ask this question to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. Or do you think he is incompetent?
Well then you have a direct path to BBC or CNN))))

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Ask this question to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. Or do you think he is incompetent?

I think he is a propagandist.
It is impossible to know that there are 1113 Americans fighting in Ukraine.
To claim to have that exact number is absurd.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Think what you please. It’s just that those who don’t want to listen to Putin will listen to Shoigu. And they won't like it very much)))))

a reply to: RussianTroll

So you are just going to take them at their word and accept the number of 1113 Americans fighting in Ukraine? You don't bother to ask how they could possibly know this? It's impossible to know ... but you just blindly accept the propaganda.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: RussianTroll

So you are just going to take them at their word and accept the number of 1113 Americans fighting in Ukraine? You don't bother to ask how they could possibly know this? It's impossible to know ... but you just blindly accept the propaganda.

It does appear that RT seems to blindly believe the figures he's provided here doesn't it?
Other than what was posted by RT, there doesn't seem to be much of anything to back up his claims.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Sergei Shoigu, do you think he is incompetent?

Going by the huge amount of Ruskie Military loses over the last 2 years, the answer to that question is yes.

***** LAST CHANCE *****

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: FlyersFan

Think what you please. It’s just that those who don’t want to listen to Putin will listen to Shoigu. And they won't like it very much)))))

Well it was Shoigu who was instrumental in the Russian failings when it invaded Ukraine in the first place so using him to threaten anything seems a bit pointless. Also if it wasn't for Shoigu being inapt whilst in command then the little rebellion by Yevgeny Prigozhin wouldn't have occured.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Hello ATS!

According to the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper, the Ministry of Defense published data with the number and breakdown by country of dead foreign mercenaries in Ukraine.
During the conflict, almost six thousand foreign mercenaries were killed.

The exact number is 5,962, with the majority from Poland (1,497).

In total, it was recorded that 13,387 foreigners fought on the side of Ukraine.

After Poland in terms of the number of mercenaries comes Georgia - 1042 arrived, 561 were liquidated.

Further:

USA - 491 out of 1113 killed;
Britain - 360 out of 822;
Romania – 349 out of 784;
France – 147 out of 356;
Germany – 88 out of 235.

Total for Europe - 3611 out of a total of 8112;
Total for America - 1354 out of 3051;
Total from Asia - 859 out of 1898;
Total from Africa - 103 out of 249;
Total from Australia and Oceania - 35 out of 77;
Total - 5962 out of 13387.

I can state that the slaughter is extremely severe: about 40 percent of the visiting mercenaries die. The situation with Georgian mercenaries is even worse - over 50 percent died there. The only exception is Germany.
These are very high figures. When participating in other military conflicts, the usual percentage of deaths of American and European “soldiers of fortune” is 10-15 percent.

Thank you.

I am Sure the Biden Administration is Working Hard to Cover Up that Fact .

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

...Fact

?
Are you sure of that?

originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: CarlLaFong

I know, but it isn't true that all our media here is "state controlled".

If it was, it would not be able to be so critical of our Govt, expose scandals, wrongdoing etc

It can't be compared to Russia, is all.

we at least still have the illusion that we are the masters of our own government.

Ummm...isn't laboring under illusion...

delusion...?

So...isn't the real argument...merely extolling varying degrees of delusive perceptions of reality...versus what...?

More illusion...?


Seems like a zero sum game...

YouSir

Yessir.

...and in THAT guys like RT are ahead of the game
Russians KNOW they're propagating their government's propaganda...because there is value in not being 'disappeared'.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

...Fact

?
Are you sure of that?

Yes .

nvm

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Indeed. In Russia, "cancel culture" is, quite literally, that.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Indeed. In Russia, "cancel culture" is, quite literally, that.

Currying favor with dictators really helps extend one's lifespan.
Keeps the family above ground as well.