West Point Drops 'Duty, Honor, Country' From Mission Statement

Speaking as a US Army veteran, I'm not liking the change. West Point, The US Army college, has dropped 'duty, honor, country' from it's mission statement. It now talks about 'army values'. I don't know why their mission statement couldn't say both - 'duty, honor, country' AND 'Army values'. I suppose that 'Army Values' are 'duty, honor, and country'. When I was in the service, no one told me what 'army values' were. Sounds rather subjective and not very precise. People are seeing this dropping of 'duty, honor, and country' as 'going woke'.


US Army Drops 'Duty, Honor, Country' from Mission Statement

The U.S. Military Academy no longer will use the motto "Duty, Honor, Country" as its mission statement, according to West Point's superintendent.

The phrase, which was highlighted in a famous speech by Gen. Douglas MacArthur in 1962, will be replaced by a line that includes the words, "Army Values."

Secretary of the Army Christine Wormuth and Army Chief of Staff Randy George both approved the change, which critics may see as West Point going woke.

Gilland explained that the new mission statement "binds the Academy to the Army."

"As a result of this assessment, we recommended the following mission statement to our senior Army leadership: To build, educate, train, and inspire the Corps of Cadets to be commissioned leaders of character committed to the Army Values and ready for a lifetime of service to the Army and Nation," he wrote

The Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.

Nothing about Country...you're supposed to feel bad about the country now. Systemic this and that now don't you know?

originally posted by: Moon68
The Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.

I was in 1981-1986. Never got a formal lesson with that taught to us.
Either it wasn't taught, or I was asleep in basic training and missed it.

The NWO has infiltrated high levels. ☠️

Army values = woke ideologies

Just like,

"Democracy" = socialism

"Democracy leads to socialism, socialism leads to communism."
- Karl Marx

Imagine spending K-12 being groomed and manipulated to have these "values" primed in the individual before college or the military, and when you get to said destinations, it's actually about duty, honor and country. That's quite the culture shock and would be disruptive to the training process.

They're just making sure what they are taught in school pairs with the "new normal" military. Otherwise, they would have to re-train and then train these individuals.

originally posted by: Moon68
The Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.

Nothing about Country...you're supposed to feel bad about the country now. Systemic this and that now don't you know?

Just curious.

Do you have to be a citizen to go to Westpoint?

Can a legal immigrant go to Westpoint?

If so, that would make sense to drop loyalty to country -- as this would be a foreign country to a legal immigrant.

originally posted by: Annee

Do you have to be a citizen to go to Westpoint?

No. They have foreign students.

Can a legal immigrant go to Westpoint?

Yes.

If so, that would make sense to drop loyalty to country -- as this would be a foreign country to a legal immigrant.

Interesting point. However, a person going to West Point would have to be loyal to their country, otherwise why study at a military college that is training to defend the country? Disloyalty to country wouldn't exactly be a good thing.

a reply to: FlyersFan

87-91 here. At that time, those who enlisted had, for the most part, an innate respect for God and Country. Now, one is expected to be ashamed of both of those. What those values meant then are a far cry from what they mean now.

Loyalty: To the NWO, WEF and UN.
Duty: To the neutered brass that forgot how to war but sure know DEI and CRT.
Respect: To the 47+ genders
Selfless Service: By kneeling in solidarity to the BLM movement.
Honor: See Gen. Milley, who thinks we have the bestest and toughest military ever.
Integrity: See Gen. Austin, who allowed the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.
Personal Courage: See Rachel Levine, so stunning and brave.

a reply to: FlyersFan

It should slowly becoming clear that many, even the most committed to "duty, honor and country" that the mission statement of the US is no longer about that. Through the allowance of 10 million or more illegals into our country (and the Western world over) and you can plainly see that the NWO is fast approaching. Most certainly, there will be stiff new international laws that allow foreign troops sent to those countries that resist the transition.

originally posted by: Moon68
At that time, those who enlisted had, for the most part, an innate respect for God and Country.

True. We all knew that we had to be loyal to our country, not only was it expected but it was a part of who we were. We all knew we should be honorable and had commitment to our duty. It was just known. And everyone was 'green'. We all wore the same uniform. People weren't white or brown or yellow or black etc etc.

a reply to: Annee

Wait, what?

You legally immigrate to this country, it is now YOUR country, and as such, you should be loyal to it.

That makes sense.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I do think it’s right to ask or insist a legal immigrant be loyal to any country other than their own.

Military is a job. Protecting the US is the job.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

Wait, what?

You legally immigrate to this country, it is now YOUR country, and as such, you should be loyal to it.

That makes sense.

No it’s not.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I'm just spitballing here, but I reckon if there's no more honor and less of a country every day then duty becomes irrelevant.

What remains is lots of time for "army values".

originally posted by: Annee
I do think it’s right to ask or insist a legal immigrant be loyal to any country other than their own.

Military is a job. Protecting the US is the job.

And if they are not loyal to the US, they won't be willing to put their life on the line to protect it. Demanding loyalty to the USA in order to be in the US Army is extremely important. It's not just a job. The military is MUCH more than that.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
I do think it’s right to ask or insist a legal immigrant be loyal to any country other than their own.

Military is a job. Protecting the US is the job.

And if they are not loyal to the US, they won't be willing to put their life on the line to protect it. Demanding loyalty to the USA in order to be in the US Army is extremely important. It's not just a job. The military is MUCH more than that.

It is just a job.

Many jobs require loyalty.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Moon68
The Army Values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.

Nothing about Country...you're supposed to feel bad about the country now. Systemic this and that now don't you know?

Just curious.

Do you have to be a citizen to go to Westpoint?

Can a legal immigrant go to Westpoint?

If so, that would make sense to drop loyalty to country -- as this would be a foreign country to a legal immigrant.

You don't come to this country and join a military college unless you plan on dedicating your life in service to this country.

originally posted by: Annee
It is just a job.
Many jobs require loyalty.

Not even remotely true. The military requires that you put your life on the line for the United States of America. It requires loyalty to the USA. You can't have someone on the battlefield suddenly say they don't like what America is doing so they refuse to fight and do their duty. You can't have someone in the military go out and picket government buildings and protest what the United States is doing. That's fighting AGAINST the country. A military member must be loyal to the country.

You weren't in the military.
You don't understand what it is.

Thin end of the woke wedge?

"Nelson: "Order the signal, Hardy."
Hardy: "Aye, aye sir."
Nelson: "Hold on, that's not what I dictated to Flags. What's the meaning of this?"
Hardy: "Sorry sir?"
Nelson (reading aloud): "'England expects every person to do his or her duty, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religious persuasion or disability.' - What gobbledegook is this?"
Hardy: "Admiralty policy, I'm afraid, sir. We're an equal opportunities employer now. We had the devil's own job getting 'England' past the censors, lest it be considered racist."
Nelson: "Gadzooks, Hardy. Hand me my pipe and tobacco."
Hardy: "Sorry sir. All naval vessels have now been designated smoke-free working environments."
Nelson: "In that case, break open the rum ration. Let us splice the mainbrace to steel the men before battle."
Hardy: "The rum ration has been abolished, Admiral. Its part of the Government's policy on binge drinking."
Nelson: "Good heavens, Hardy. I suppose we'd better get on with it .full speed ahead."
Hardy: "I think you'll find that there's a 4 knot speed limit in this stretch of water."
Nelson: "Damn it man! We are on the eve of the greatest sea battle in history. We must advance with all dispatch. Report from the crow's nest please."
Hardy: "That won't be possible, sir."
Nelson:"What?"
Hardy: "Health and Safety have closed the crow's nest, sir. No harness, and they said that rope ladders don't meet regulations. They won't let anyone up there until a proper scaffolding can be erected."
Nelson: "Then get me the ship's carpenter without delay, Hardy."
Hardy: "He's busy knocking up a wheelchair access to the fo'c'sle Admiral."
Nelson: "Wheelchair access? I've never heard anything so absurd."
Hardy: "Health and safety again, sir. We have to provide a barrier-free environment for the differently abled."
Nelson: "Differently abled? I've only one arm and one eye and I refuse even to hear mention of the word. I didn't rise to the rank of admiral by playing the disability card."
Hardy: "Actually, sir, you did. The Royal Navy is under represented in the areas of visual impairment and limb deficiency."
Nelson: "Whatever next? Give me full sail. The salt spray beckons."
Hardy: "A couple of problems there too, sir. Health and safety won't let the crew up the rigging without hard hats. And they don't want anyone breathing in too much salt - haven't you seen the adverts?"
Nelson: "I've never heard such infamy. Break out the cannon and tell the men to stand by to engage the enemy."
Hardy: "The men are a bit worried about shooting at anyone, Admiral."
Nelson: "What? This is mutiny!"
Hardy: "It's not that, sir. It's just that they're afraid of being charged with murder if they actually kill anyone. There's a couple of legal-aid lawyers on board, watching everyone like hawks."
Nelson: "Then how are we to sink the Frenchies and the Spanish?"
Hardy: "Actually, sir, we're not."
Nelson: "We're not?"
Hardy: "No, sir. The French and the Spanish are our European partners now. According to the Common Fisheries Policy, we shouldn't even be in this stretch of water. We could get hit with a claim for compensation."
Nelson: "But you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil."
Hardy: "I wouldn't let the ship's diversity co-ordinator hear you saying that sir. You'll be up on disciplinary report."
Nelson: "You must consider every man an enemy, who speaks ill of your King."
Hardy: "Not any more, sir. We must be inclusive in this multicultural age. Now put on your Kevlar vest; it's the rules. It could save your life"
Nelson: "Don't tell me - health and safety. Whatever happened to rum, sodomy and the lash?"
Hardy: As I explained, sir, rum is off the menu! And there's a ban on corporal punishment."
Nelson: "What about sodomy?"
Hardy: "I believe that is now legal, sir."
Nelson: "In that case............................... kiss me, Hardy."

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: FlyersFan

I do think it’s right to ask or insist a legal immigrant be loyal to any country other than their own.

Military is a job. Protecting the US is the job.

If you join a branch of the United States military, you take an oath to protect the Constitution.

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted):

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

See the 2nd line…”I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same”

If a legal immigrant that wants to join the military of this country but cannot be loyal to it, should not join.