ONCE AGAIN, Democrats say the First Amendment is "not absolute"

a reply to: Sookiechacha

and here you thought it was nill until the 90s 😀

what made you say that?

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ColeYounger2

If you control what people say, you can control how people think.

Look at illegal aliens. . . to illegal migrants. . . to migrants. . . to newcomers. . . .

Bad example.

Aliens? Really?
It was the wrong word in the first place. Migrants is the correct one.

Can you find me the percentage of US citizens with grand, grand grand, grand grand grand and so on fathers and mothers who haven't come from somewhere else.

See? I was right.

You want call migrants as aliens.
It was the wrong word to be used and as time passes it has taken another meaning with the evolution of the language.

I am sure you have been watching the X-Files and you know better.

No.

Legal migrants are just migrants.

Illegal aliens are, illegal aliens.

Once again, we see the left trying to determine how people should be speaking.

You've proven my point once again.

You have a strange view on what proof means but anyway.

Aliens refers to something else in our times.
(You should watch the X-Files if you haven't)

There are legal and illegal migrants according to the law.

There are migrants and illegal aliens.

I think I have an equitable compromise - how about

"Undocumented lawbreakers"?

Nope.

Illegal aliens.

Or, criminals if you prefer.

Illegal migrants you wanted to say.

And you need to be able to differentiate this from aliens and alien life in other planets.

Pedantic post is pedantic.

Illegal aliens.

YOU do not have the authority to TELL ANYONE what they can and cannot say.

a reply to: xuenchen

and here you thought it was nill until the 90s

No, no. The sexual exploitation of minor children was not outlawed until the 1990's. That means that when 14-year-old Brook Shields was filming "The Lagoon", in 1980, it was totally legal for her and Christopher Atkins to be filmed, and for us to watch them simulate intercourse.

Today, that's illegal here in the USA. An example of the 1st Amendment not being absolute.

Checking the exploitation of children was/is a long road. In 1956, you could still "buy" a child in the USA.

Babies were not cheap and baby selling proved to be such a lucrative business that New York City authorities uncovered a million-dollar adoption racket in 1959 that included loan sharking and gambling. The price of babies discussed during the Kefauver hearings ranged from $1,500 to $5,000 or more. The median family income in 1956 was $4,800; clearly the trade involved a wealthy clientele.

The expense reflected the many middlemen and women involved. Birth mothers received stipends, maternity home operators were reimbursed for room and board for the women waiting to give birth, doctors received money for the deliveries, lawyers got paid for arranging the adoptions, and sometimes judges received payoffs for approving the adoptions. In 1956 Kraft Television Theater, possibly inspired by the Kefauver hearings, aired the melodrama "Babies for Sale." One scene involved a bit of haggling between the prospective father and the baby broker, who says, "I understand you want our merchandise but you don't want to pay our price," and a few moments later, "I'm doing business in a seller's market." It was an accurate account. Of course, not all babies brought high prices. Buyers wanted healthy, white infants and they returned the ones discovered to be "defective" or of mixed-race.

historynewsnetwork.org...

You own post proves it was still legal before 1977, to take picture of children in sexually compromised positions to sell and distribute.

We've come a long way, but not nearly far enough.

a reply to: Annee

Why does anything about sex and minors need to go immediately to pedophilia?

Simply because by definition it *is* pedophilia unless the minor is having sex with another minor. And in those cases, that's not even news - let alone illegal - so no one else but their parents and people close to them would ever even know about it.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ColeYounger2

If you control what people say, you can control how people think.

Look at illegal aliens. . . to illegal migrants. . . to migrants. . . to newcomers. . . .

Bad example.

Aliens? Really?
It was the wrong word in the first place. Migrants is the correct one.

Can you find me the percentage of US citizens with grand, grand grand, grand grand grand and so on fathers and mothers who haven't come from somewhere else.

See? I was right.

You want call migrants as aliens.
It was the wrong word to be used and as time passes it has taken another meaning with the evolution of the language.

I am sure you have been watching the X-Files and you know better.

No.

Legal migrants are just migrants.

Illegal aliens are, illegal aliens.

Once again, we see the left trying to determine how people should be speaking.

You've proven my point once again.

You have a strange view on what proof means but anyway.

Aliens refers to something else in our times.
(You should watch the X-Files if you haven't)

There are legal and illegal migrants according to the law.

Perhaps you should actually read American law before pretending you know anything about it.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien.

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Cornell Law School Linky

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens.

(a) Criminal penalties
(1)
(A) Any person who—
(i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law;

Cornell Law School Linky

I could go on all day...

You didn't get the point.
Language evolves and the word alien is used for different purposes in our times.

So logically it has to be replaced by the use migrant as alien usually and in most cases describes an extraterrestrial entity.

On ATS there is a whole section dedicated to:

ALIENS and UFOs

It's obvious to anyone it doesn't mean migrants and UFOs but extraterrestrials and UFOs.

Language evolves and this should be reflected everywhere including the law and other aspects of every day life.

I got the point.

I was just pointing out that you were wrong about American law.

I understand why you don't understand that.

Being Woke and all...



And ETA because English is not my first language, the meaning of "alien" has not changed for a few hundred years in the English language.

Its first meaning is strange.... alien.

Its second meaning is foreign... alien.

As a Native American, if you live in America and are not Native American then you are technically an alien to me.

Not that I believe that... because that would be... stupid.

So for you to go out on a limb and just speak for everyone on the planet that the English word "alien" now means "extraterrestrial" because you watched the X Files is rather... stupid.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ColeYounger2

If you control what people say, you can control how people think.

Look at illegal aliens. . . to illegal migrants. . . to migrants. . . to newcomers. . . .

Bad example.

Aliens? Really?
It was the wrong word in the first place. Migrants is the correct one.

Can you find me the percentage of US citizens with grand, grand grand, grand grand grand and so on fathers and mothers who haven't come from somewhere else.

See? I was right.

You want call migrants as aliens.
It was the wrong word to be used and as time passes it has taken another meaning with the evolution of the language.

I am sure you have been watching the X-Files and you know better.

No.

Legal migrants are just migrants.

Illegal aliens are, illegal aliens.

Once again, we see the left trying to determine how people should be speaking.

You've proven my point once again.

You have a strange view on what proof means but anyway.

Aliens refers to something else in our times.
(You should watch the X-Files if you haven't)

There are legal and illegal migrants according to the law.

Perhaps you should actually read American law before pretending you know anything about it.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien.

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Cornell Law School Linky

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens.

(a) Criminal penalties
(1)
(A) Any person who—
(i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law;

Cornell Law School Linky

I could go on all day...

You didn't get the point.
Language evolves and the word alien is used for different purposes in our times.

So logically it has to be replaced by the use migrant as alien usually and in most cases describes an extraterrestrial entity.

On ATS there is a whole section dedicated to:

ALIENS and UFOs

It's obvious to anyone it doesn't mean migrants and UFOs but extraterrestrials and UFOs.

Language evolves and this should be reflected everywhere including the law and other aspects of every day life.

I got the point.

I was just pointing out that you were wrong about American law.

I understand why you don't understand that.

Being Woke and all...

And ETA because English is not my first language, the meaning of "alien" has not changed for a few hundred years in the English language.

Its first meaning is strange.... alien.

Its second meaning is foreign... alien.

As a Native American, if you live in America and are not Native American then you are technically an alien to me.

Not that I believe that... because that would be... stupid.

So for you to go out on a limb and just speak for everyone on the planet that the English word "alien" now means "extraterrestrial" because you watched the X Files is rather... stupid.

I think the English language is highly abused in the American Law. Calling a migrant or foreigner as an alien is a testimony to this.

At least ATS got it right: Aliens and UFOs

I wonder whether the other English speaking countries (and there are many) around the world are using the term alien or other terms.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: underpass61

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ColeYounger2

If you control what people say, you can control how people think.

Look at illegal aliens. . . to illegal migrants. . . to migrants. . . to newcomers. . . .

Bad example.

Aliens? Really?
It was the wrong word in the first place. Migrants is the correct one.

Can you find me the percentage of US citizens with grand, grand grand, grand grand grand and so on fathers and mothers who haven't come from somewhere else.

See? I was right.

You want call migrants as aliens.
It was the wrong word to be used and as time passes it has taken another meaning with the evolution of the language.

I am sure you have been watching the X-Files and you know better.

No.

Legal migrants are just migrants.

Illegal aliens are, illegal aliens.

Once again, we see the left trying to determine how people should be speaking.

You've proven my point once again.

You have a strange view on what proof means but anyway.

Aliens refers to something else in our times.
(You should watch the X-Files if you haven't)

There are legal and illegal migrants according to the law.

There are migrants and illegal aliens.

I think I have an equitable compromise - how about

"Undocumented lawbreakers"?

Nope.

Illegal aliens.

Or, criminals if you prefer.

Illegal migrants you wanted to say.

And you need to be able to differentiate this from aliens and alien life in other planets.

Pedantic post is pedantic.

Illegal aliens.

YOU do not have the authority to TELL ANYONE what they can and cannot say.

It's my opinion based on the understanding of the evolution of the language and not on political ideologies.

a reply to: Lumenari

As a Native American, if you live in America and are not Native American then you are technically an alien to me.

That will exclude most Americans!
With the exception of a few groups like Sioux, Cherokee, Navajo, and a few others.

You are not making your case any better. Actually you made it even worse!

"It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams

Too much ignorance, not enough brush fires of the mind, remember Independence was fought for and won by 3%.

“The heaviest penalty for declining to rule is to be ruled by someone inferior to yourself.”. ― Plato,

From time to time we’ve been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?

The DNC is always the party that violates people's rights.
ALWAYS!

Any one with a half brain can attempt to do some real research, dig into the political past, will see that dems are scum.

Democrats voted against woman voting and having equal rights, and voted against freeing slaves and letting them vote, dems are # bags.

Domestic enemies and anti American.

Their actions, speak louder than words, since the dems words are hollow, just watch what they do vs say.

Never trust corrupt career parasite politicians.

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ZERO AUTHORITY.

The federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden by the Constitution are reserved to each state, or to the People.

Consent of the Governed.

Read that, again!

Learn what it F'n says already, stop being ignorant!!!!

Wake the F up people, wth is wrong with you all?

“One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”

originally posted by: Annee


Why does anything about sex and minors need to go immediately to pedophilia?

um.....sex with minors IS pedophilia. it's the F'n definition, look it up. You are playing us, aren't you. Nobody can be this slow. Not possible.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ColeYounger2

If you control what people say, you can control how people think.

Look at illegal aliens. . . to illegal migrants. . . to migrants. . . to newcomers. . . .

Bad example.

Aliens? Really?
It was the wrong word in the first place. Migrants is the correct one.

Can you find me the percentage of US citizens with grand, grand grand, grand grand grand and so on fathers and mothers who haven't come from somewhere else.

See? I was right.

You want call migrants as aliens.
It was the wrong word to be used and as time passes it has taken another meaning with the evolution of the language.

I am sure you have been watching the X-Files and you know better.

No.

Legal migrants are just migrants.

Illegal aliens are, illegal aliens.

Once again, we see the left trying to determine how people should be speaking.

You've proven my point once again.

You have a strange view on what proof means but anyway.

Aliens refers to something else in our times.
(You should watch the X-Files if you haven't)

There are legal and illegal migrants according to the law.

Perhaps you should actually read American law before pretending you know anything about it.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien.

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Cornell Law School Linky

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens.

(a) Criminal penalties
(1)
(A) Any person who—
(i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law;

Cornell Law School Linky

I could go on all day...

You didn't get the point.
Language evolves and the word alien is used for different purposes in our times.

So logically it has to be replaced by the use migrant as alien usually and in most cases describes an extraterrestrial entity.

On ATS there is a whole section dedicated to:

ALIENS and UFOs

It's obvious to anyone it doesn't mean migrants and UFOs but extraterrestrials and UFOs.

Language evolves and this should be reflected everywhere including the law and other aspects of every day life.

I got the point.

I was just pointing out that you were wrong about American law.

I understand why you don't understand that.

Being Woke and all...

And ETA because English is not my first language, the meaning of "alien" has not changed for a few hundred years in the English language.

Its first meaning is strange.... alien.

Its second meaning is foreign... alien.

As a Native American, if you live in America and are not Native American then you are technically an alien to me.

Not that I believe that... because that would be... stupid.

So for you to go out on a limb and just speak for everyone on the planet that the English word "alien" now means "extraterrestrial" because you watched the X Files is rather... stupid.

I think the English language is highly abused in the American Law. Calling a migrant or foreigner as an alien is a testimony to this.

At least ATS got it right: Aliens and UFOs

I wonder whether the other English speaking countries (and there are many) around the world are using the term alien or other terms.

the term, "alien" isn't just a description of a person or entity, it's also a state of being. Something new you have never seen or experienced it "alien" to you.

a·li·en
/ˈālyən/
adjective
adjective: alien
belonging to a foreign country or nation.
Similar:
foreign
overseas
nonnative
external
distant
remote
Opposite:
native
unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful.
"bossing anyone around was alien to him"
Similar:
unfamiliar
unknown
unheard of
foreign
strange
peculiar
odd
bizarre
outlandish
remote
exotic
novel
incompatible with
unusual for
opposed to
conflicting with
contrary to
adverse to
in conflict with
at variance with
antagonistic to
unacceptable to
repugnant to
hostile to
inimical to
oppugnant to
Opposite:
familiar
relating to or denoting beings supposedly from other worlds; extraterrestrial.
"an alien spacecraft"
Similar:
extraterrestrial
otherworldly
unearthly
Martian
Venutian
Jovian
Opposite:
earthly
(of a plant or animal species) introduced from another country and later naturalized.
noun
noun: alien; plural noun: aliens
a foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living.
"an illegal alien"
Similar:
foreigner
foreign national
nonnative
immigrant
emigrant
émigré
incomer
newcomer
visitor
outsider
stranger
Opposite:
native
a hypothetical or fictional being from another world.
Similar:
extraterrestrial
ET
Martian
Venutian
Jovian
little green man
a plant or animal species originally introduced from another country and later naturalized.

Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such Thing as Wisdom; and no such Thing as publick Liberty, without Freedom of Speech. — Benjamin Franklin, from “Silence Dogood” letters, printed in the New England Courant, July 9, 1722.

Freedom can exist only in the society of knowledge.
Without learning, men are incapable of knowing their rights, and where learning is confined to a few people, liberty can be neither equal nor universal.”. Benjamin Rush, Essay, 1786.

“A diffusion of knowledge is the only guardian of true liberty.”. James Madison to George Thompson, 1825.


“Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker. But if we had not, our fathers have earned and bought it for us, at the expense of their ease, their estates, their pleasure, and their blood.”. – John Adams, 1765. “Without liberty, law loses its nature and its name...


Its soul, its climate, its equality, liberty, laws, people, and manners. My God! how little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy! — Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Monroe, June 17, 1785.


I feel his sentiment, exactly. How shameful it is to see, our fellow country men & women, brought to ignorance due to their own preference. So called elected officials, setting their constituents up for failure, not success.

a reply to: ADVISOR

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ZERO AUTHORITY.


The federal government has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden by the Constitution are reserved to each state, or to the People.


Consent of the Governed.

Read that, again!

Learn what it F'n says already, stop being ignorant!!!!

Wake the F up people, wth is wrong with you all?


“One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”

Amen.

a reply to: network dude

This term is very outdated to describe people of other nationalities who either have arrived to the US legally or illegally. In the other English speaking countries the words migrant or foreigner are often used as alien has been used in the past and no longer used in this context.

a reply to: ColeYounger2

Last year, Democrats told Marjorie Taylor-Greene to NEVER show these images again of some strange guy, and say he's Hunter Biden.

SEE: twitter.com...

Democrats..Stop Treating Americans Like We're STUPID!

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

You are assuming that they are only banning smut.

Books like 1984 and To Kill a Mockingbird are on the banned list.

Give me a good reason as why books like that should be banned?

I doubt that you will.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

You are assuming that they are only banning smut.

Books like 1984 and To Kill a Mockingbird are on the banned list.

Give me a good reason as why books like that should be banned?

I doubt that you will.

Who's list is banning 1984!!! 😀

a reply to: xuenchen

Here we go. They should ban the Bible while they are at it. It more than qualifies.

'1984' among hundreds of books flagged under new Iowa law banning books with sex scenes

In compliance with a new law, a school district in Iowa flagged hundreds of titles for removal from its libraries, the Des Moines Register reported last week.

The titles, ranging from “Ulysses” to “The Catcher in the Rye,” all contain descriptions of sex, something now prohibited by Iowa’s Senate File 496. Passed in May, the law requires teachers and administrators to review their libraries and classrooms for books depicting sex acts and bars them from making such purchases in the future.

At the Urbandale Community School District, which serves 4,000 students, this law made administrators flag 374 titles, some of which have been in the library for decades and haven’t been challenged in years.

These include children’s picture books that discuss gender identity and stories featuring gay characters. Ironically, George Orwell’s “1984,” a cautionary tale about censorship from a totalitarian government, also made the list.

a reply to: grey580

Oh so there IS "sex" stuff involved !! 😀

Up to Parents now to "eduictae" kids. 😃

Is "Idiocracy" on any lists? 🤣

a reply to: Lumenari

Technically , if you Disregard the " Theory " of Darwinism , All Homo Sapiens Sapiens are " Aliens " on this Planet ....