Is the israeli military this inept

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: KrustyKrab

Oh I see... You're question wasn't an honest one... Dully noted...

Does it really matter who built them when the only concern and the only thing that matters is what they’re being used for today? Hamas has been using hospital bunkers to store weapons, ammo and military combatants, they’ve proven this. So what’s your point?

I was addressing the fact that not all bunkers and tunnels were constructed by Israelis. Who built them is totally irrelevant. It’s like trying to blame one missile manufacturer over another when both are killing the same people. It doesn’t matter who made them.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
I was addressing the fact that not all bunkers and tunnels were constructed by Israelis.

Israel built one bunker under one hospital. That's the only known bunker that Israel built. There may be others, but that's the only one that has been confirmed in the news that I know of. Israel has found around 1,500 tunnels and it's reported (in Muslim sources) that there are probably 500 kilometers in tunnels. I don't know what that is in American measuring of miles. Israel didn't build those tunnels. Hamas did.Palestinian Tunnel Warfare in Gaza

Who built them is totally irrelevant.

Yeah, it is a little relevant. It shows that the 'palestinians' in Gaza spent their aid money and resources building smuggling tunnels and terrorist network tunnels instead of spending the time and money on education and food and building Gaza into what it could have been ... a modern city, with well educated people who get along with others, on a beach in the Mediterranean. It could have had tourism and modern universities and real education, but instead it embraced terrorism.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Hello Police, I want to report a slaying of propaganda and nonsense at ATS !!!

It’s ugly, Israel haters laying around all over the place. Bruised egos, broken dreams, hurt feelz.

Come in low and fast ! childish insults and non-sequiturs and fallacies are still shooting all over the place. Moderators may have been taken hostage. Reason and logic definitely dead.

Yea Gabor talks about lots of cool stuff addiction included I’ve had the pleasure to see him once in person.

So he is just a doctor in Canada pretending to be Jewish if he rejects Zionism. Just like you can’t be a Muslim if you don’t follow the Koran etc…

That said. I don’t care about Muslim causes none what so ever. It is incompatible with my world view. I am not a Muslim Christian or Jew not part of that three ring circus.

Like anyone Gabor has good ideas and bad ideas for he is human. His work on addiction amazing, his opinions on the Middle East lack luster at best

a reply to: HopeForTheFuture

a reply to: FlyersFan

Actually they didn't. The Bunker that Israel built was collapsed in an airstrike in 2021. They collapse caused the foundations of an apartment complex to collapse. The Israelis knew exactly where the bunker was and destroyed it. Obviously it was rebuilt. I suspected something was wrong because the original plans called for an operating room and when we saw the video there is no way you could get wounded into that tunnel.

In a statement at the time the IDF said
a “preliminary” investigation into the attack found that Israeli aircraft struck “underground military infrastructure” that was located under the road.

“The underground military facilities collapsed causing the foundations of the civilian houses above them to collapse as well leading to unintended casualties,” a statement read.



So these bunkers collapsed meaning they were rebuilt. Betting they used bunker busters looking at the damage to the 2 roads. They turned the street into huge craters.

a reply to: dragonridr

Ah .. new information. Good to know. Thank you.

originally posted by: gortex
Fixed that for you.

Wow .. what a bunch of mind numbing garbage.
The loaded language was spectacular in it's bias.
Wouldn't expect anything else from you though.
Dismissed.

a reply to: gortex

I’ve seen plenty of videos taken by Hamas and the ‘civilians’ they hide amongst.
None of them look like they’ve missed a meal.
Some of them are clearly overweight.
Interesting that it breaks their own narrative.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Wow .. what a bunch of mind numbing garbage.
The loaded language was spectacular in it's bias.
Wouldn't expect anything else from you though.

Nor I from you .

a reply to: KrustyKrab

Thats kind of what reuters does... They all copy reuters headlines... You never noticed that?

a reply to: KrustyKrab

It's true what matters is accepting collateral damage, by unnecessary actions, they both have made their stances clear with their actions...

They're both a disgrace for humanity... One in my mind kind of had a chance to proof the world wrong but alas, here we are...

a reply to: arcticshuffle

If it's inappropriate i trust the mods to do the right thing. Legit critique is legit critique, I know the victim card has saved Israel from legit critique for a long time but I have the naghing feeling the expiry date on that card is approaching. I guess you better buckle up... There are many skeletons in that 50 years old closet...

The chosen ones... lol

I call a spade a spade. Your ball was make believe.

a reply to: Terpene

a reply to: Athetos

Your spade is someone elses heart.
definetly check that eyesight, we're not even playing cards... I'm not the ball either, and if I was your aim is off too.

Israel and hamas both paving the way with good intentions... It'll lead them to the same place too...

Maybe if they have eternity they can work it out.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

Air superiority wins wars. The goal is to have your troops in as little combat as possible so that they don't die. You know nothing about the military or about winning wars or about keeping troops alive.

This is the only reason why they're mad. They want more Israelis to be dying.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

We're only mad about warmongers making the world a worse place.

We know the rhetoric, it's not new and only the fool fall for it times and time again...

Good thing for them they made up the majority...

It does leave the possibility open that it was intentional.

a reply to: deckard74