Why aren't trans men winning against biological men?

a reply to: Echo007

I get the arguement against transwomen if women sports. And you may not want to use preferred gender pronouns; but I really see no harm in being respectful to someone who has transitioned genders. It's not like its hurting anyone. Most trans women that ive talked to on the subject say they've always felt the opposite gender and its not something they can just change.

Then ive seen some say they transitioned back to their biological gender because they felt better just accepting their natural biological gender.

It's a complicated area and i don't think it does any good for society to put all this pressure and obsession with trans people whom are a very small percentage of the population.

Just live and let be. There's more important things to talk about then what people decide to do with their bodies and identity. That's for them to figuare out and not for the rest of society to pressure into or out of.

a reply to: SilentSaturn1

It's a complicated area and i don't think it does any good for society to put all this pressure and obsession with trans people whom are a very small percentage of the population. Just live and let be.

Well said.

Now if the trannys can stop injecting themselves into women’s sports, stay away from kids, stay out of women’s restrooms, and stop making others conform to their absurd and unnatural ‘science’ then everybody would be better off.

Like you said, we’ve got better things to deal with than that nonsense.

a reply to: Vermilion

stop injecting themselves into women’s sports, stay away from kids, stay out of women’s restrooms, and stop making others conform to their absurd and unnatural ‘science’ then everybody would be better off.

Good thing that's not how live and let be works... If somone is legally according to his identification papers a women, who are you to deny them acces to the women's restroom, or becoming a teacher, or practicing any sports they like?
You won't, you can't, and soon nobody will care what your born with and they will care for what they are actually attracted to not what anyone says is right...

It sounds like it's you that want them to conform to your absurdly outdated science.

Always with the projection...

a reply to: Terpene

Is it context in sports, it’s cheating for women to take any type of doping such as male hormones to give them advantage. How is it not cheating letting a person that is biological male to compete in female sports. It’s petty simple. Don’t overthink it.

a reply to: Vermilion

Sure, but all that stuff you mentioned are rarities. It's extremely rare for any trans person to violate a woman's or man's privacy in a bathroom. Most people aren't pushing for kids to transition. And trans athletes in sports are a rarity.

No one is forcing you or anyone to except "trans ideology". It's just an over-discussed tired topic constantly being pushed into the public conversation - so it appears like "its forced".

Most trans people are just trying to live normal lives. I doubt anyone here has actually had an instance where a trans person interjected themselves in a way that affected their kids, bathroom privacy, or sport. Or told them what to think.

a reply to: Lazy88

Exactly, sports is adressing the problematic dynamics, because they really are.

However most other problematic social dynamics that can happen between men and women have nothing to do with being trans or cis.
It's just asshole doing their assholieness, some are trans, some are crossdressers, some are cis. You've got assholes in every group and they never make up the majority.
they're always the striking yet annoying minority...
It's an instant fail if you try to make the few assholes representative for a whole social group... It's like saying Christians are pedos, it's a complete fallacy.

People here really want to start making the distinction between crossdressers and transitioned individuals as it's a whole world of convictions between the two and makes a big diffrence.

Cross dressing is just a quirk that has been taken advantage of trough the inappropriate vocabulary used to define the acces to bathroom and the likes.

A crossdresser can't legally change gender as far as I'm aware, but nothing stops a fully transitioned individual to change the gender in their documents.

To the topic of lockers the thing that should matter is what your genitals actually are.
There are women that transitioned to men and have a penis, if they have to shower according to their chromosomes wouldn't we force our daughters to shower with a dick? Wouldn't that defy the purpouse of the gender separation in the first place?
Whats more important in the lockers room, genitals or chromosomes?

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