90 year old woman who spent 60 years volunteering fired for asking what pronouns meant

a reply to: trollz

That is Age/Gender Discrimination . I Hope She Sues their Pants or Dresses Off !

a reply to: FlyersFan

I learned about sex, love, marriage at age3 and knew right away I wasnt created right for Motherhood.

At age eight, orders from on high forbade my breeding.

I can donate, but after a certain point there needs to be a suitable transplant surrogate mother capable of giving birth.

My hips are wide but my pelvic opening is too small unless it's a premie.

I'm also nonbinary and nonpartisan on this issue.

HIGH IQ, not the brightest but whatever, it's not a pissing contest.

Autistic multiphasic they/them/she/her.

Very tolerant and sensitive, but also have term limits.

I can sympathize with all lifeforms except liars and dangerous psychopaths.

Schizoaffective/Schizoeffective.

My hubby has a similar condition an our offspring would be dangerous and suffering.

Prochoice but in a Prolife mentality state.

Please quit talking about your age and experience in this arena, you're still very blessed and comparatively young in comparison.

Tolerance begets tolerance.

You're not a very skilled advocate.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES

Please quit talking about your age and experience in this arena, you're still very blessed and comparatively young in comparison.

I haven't talked about anything personal.
You must be thinking of someone else.
ANNEE perhaps.

originally posted by: VoiceofReality

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: trollz

That's sex not gender. Grab a dictionary and look up the meaning of the 2 words. My guess is you'll learn something.

the question was:

what is a man or a woman?

no mention of sex or gender. perhaps you should learn something, then speak.

Fuming angry about this.
Can be discussed all day every day to no avail.
I ask, when are we NORMAL people going to get enough and do something about it?
Really DO something????
I'd say a group of a hundred or so walk into that place, drag the leadership out into the street, strip them naked and use markers to write RACIST all over them instead of those mentality ill idiots accusing a 90 yr old woman of being such.

If true (and not a half-truth, leaving out something inconvenient from the story, a common habit of these politicized 'news' stories, apart from spin), sounds like they did her a favor.

“Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits.* [Or “corrupt good morals.”]” (1 Cor. 15:33)

I'm not referring to her colleague volunteers. But those who make such "diversity, equity, and inclusion guidelines" or rules and the decision to dismiss her (with whom she will possibly have to associate as well when working, otherwise with those who stand to gain the most from such societies/organizations, which are often not the patients that are suffering from the disease).

They were possibly abusing her good intentions to help those in need anyway. These type of organizations are often profiting from the hard work of volunteers (and their good intentions or motives for volunteering). Or those who donate for that matter. Often the money ends up in the hands of those who already have plenty: doctors, medical researchers, and their management or owners of a medical research institution or laboratory, or hospital. Not to mention the biggest earners at those companies or businesses that provide (sell) machinery, medicine or other services or products used by the aforementioned parties as well as the organization itself (including accountancy services, legal services and financial services).

2 Timothy 3:1-5

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

As Meja said:

Maybe I sound a bit cynical, but it's often the reality of such organizations, companies and businesses operating under the framework of socialism (or at least claiming such for increased benefits and/or donations, including federal grants and bills that need to be paid by someone at least).

The non-profit organization may be a myth, the money always ends up somewhere, so then the profit is merely redirected to other organizations, companies, or people (interested parties). Medical services are overpriced, and these type of organizations contribute to that, cause it's not their (personal) money anyway that they're spending.

originally posted by: texas thinker
Fuming angry about this.
Can be discussed all day every day to no avail.
I ask, when are we NORMAL people going to get enough and do something about it?
Really DO something????
I'd say a group of a hundred or so walk into that place, drag the leadership out into the street, strip them naked and use markers to write RACIST all over them instead of those mentality ill idiots accusing a 90 yr old woman of being such.

That doesn't sound like a healthy idea, what's next? A public shame walk like in Game of Thrones? Putting people in pillories for all to see and throw stuff at like in the middle ages?

This may be a better idea (speaking about the lyrics, not some of the things shown in the music video; for example, I consider Greenpeace to be a scam, see my previous comment for details; I could say more about Greenpeace specifically, but it's a bit besides my point):

I don't think they called her a racist by the way. These gender (or pronoun) discussions or issues have little to do with race, well, nothing actually.

Definition for "race" in this context (from goodle/Oxford Languages):

"each of the major groupings into which humankind is considered (in various theories or contexts) to be divided on the basis of physical characteristics or shared ancestry."

The world population can be divided into 4 major races, namely white/Caucasian, Mongoloid/Asian, Negroid/Black, and Australoid. This is based on a racial classification made by Carleton S. Coon

Source: How many major races are there in the world - UMSL

Wikipedia says he used 5.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: trollz

Statement from the National Multiple Sclerosis Society

... Through thousands of volunteers, dedicated staff, and generous donors, we live that vision every day. ...

Coming back to my first comment in this thread, that sounds like the group (see bolded term) that is making a decent chunk of money out of this, since they don't sound like "volunteers" (which are named separately). Some of those are sometimes the ones one doesn't want to associate with (depending on the individual). Cause their primary motive is sometimes self-gain, especially the best paid ones.

Of course, that could also be true of a number of the volunteers, whose primary motive is not financial gain but social gain or benefit (they want to appear 'good' to other people, "to be seen by men").

"All the works they do, they do to be seen by men." (Matthew 23:5; Jesus said that, someone who was truly trying to help people without looking for his own gain, I believe the term is "selfless")

Because of the backstory concerning the person that was dismissed, that doesn't seem to be the case for her (what I quoted, not what I now added about Jesus). So now she can look for a group of people that also try to help people in some area (such as a corruption of the mind/mental diseases, including the love of money and self which results in the behaviour and primary motives I discussed above) where the likelihood of ending up associating with the aforementioned type is significantly reduced. Which is why I argued that they probably did her a favor (first comment of mine). Geesh, I tried to add "probably" to that argument in my first comment and I'm already out of edit time, it's not even been 2 hours. "Maximum window of 4 hours" my ass.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES

Please quit talking about your age and experience in this arena, you're still very blessed and comparatively young in comparison.

I haven't talked about anything personal.
You must be thinking of someone else.
ANNEE perhaps.

That was who I originally thought I had responded to.

Lines of code.

I've always respected you and her and always will.

Technocrats are weird.

No harm, no foul.

Pronouns mean the person in question is delusional, suffering from gender dysphoria, and should be institutionalized.

In case anyone is interested, if I have to have pronouns they are: common sense based in reality, and, f**k you and your stupid bulls**t.

Makes me wonder where is it that she is living. Living near Portland OR is damn close to the Woke capital of the world my wife volunteered for 10 years and never ran into anyone that wasn't either old or religious. There isn't much in terms of wokeness in volunteering work.

I have yet to find someone in my line of work using nontypical pronouns though some people add their pronouns to their footnotes. I'm in a higher-paying technical field, so maybe that is why.

a reply to: whereislogic

I will agree with my incorrect term of racist, I was too ticked off about the story to think of a better term, although these woke ultra left idiots will call me a racist for much less than what they have done I'm sure.
After all, as a 50 something white guy they label me as born that way.

The Pronoun Taliban strikes again!

Pro-Libertate!
-OSR

originally posted by: texas thinker
a reply to: whereislogic

I will agree with my incorrect term of racist, ...

Excellent attitude. Do you know how rare it is on ATS to see someone acknowledging a mistake they've made? Almost as if it isn't allowed, too embarassing or something (pride and haughtiness are the primary buttons that were pushed to condition them with this attitude, see 2 Tim 3:1-9 quoted further below, I already quoted the first 5 before, but now I'll add 4 verses and bold the pertinent terms describing human behaviour and attitudes "in the last days"). As if we all don't make mistakes. Nobody on earth is perfect. So it really shouldn't be such a big deal. Especially if it's about something little. Jesus once said: “The person faithful in what is least is faithful also in much, and the person unrighteous in what is least is unrighteous also in much.” (Luke 16:10)

"Faithful" as the term is used in the Bible can also mean, or be rendered as, "trustworthy". For example:

Revelation 21:3-5

With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful* [Or “trustworthy.”] and true.”

They really are, but that's for each person to figure out/find out for (prove to) themselves by making sure of it.

“But let God be found true, even if every man be found a liar.” (Romans 3:4)

“And stop being molded by this system of things,* [ Or “this age.”] but be transformed by making your mind over, so that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.” (Romans 12:2)

“Make sure of the more important things.”—PHIL. 1:10.

“Do not treat prophecies with contempt. Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine” (1 Thessalonians 5:20,21)

Talking about prophecies, here's another one (besides the one I quoted from Rev. 21):

2 Timothy 3:1-9

But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6 From among these arise men who slyly work their way into households and captivate weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

8 Now in the way that Janʹnes and Jamʹbres opposed Moses, so these also go on opposing the truth. Such men are completely corrupted in mind, disapproved as regards the faith. 9 Nevertheless, they will make no further progress, for their folly will be very plain to all, as it was with those two men.

That's a lot too overcome, for some people, it's just too much to handle. So they end up not even being able to admit to little mistakes, "minor matters". And it prevents them from looking into their own hearts and minds to at least get a glimpse of what's going on there (which is already hard to do on your own without the Bible, God's words, as a mirror, along with God's help, in the first place, as Jeremiah 17:9,10 explains).

Understanding (Aid to Bible Understanding)

... The person who is rightly motivated seeks understanding, not out of mere curiosity or to exalt himself, but for the very purpose of acting in wisdom; ‘wisdom is before his face.’ (Prov. 17:24) He is not like those in the apostle Paul’s day who assumed to be teachers of others but were “puffed up with pride, not understanding anything,” unwisely letting themselves become “mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words,” things that produce disunity and a host of bad results.—1 Tim. 6:3-5; see KNOWLEDGE; WISDOM.

1 Timothy 6:3-5

If any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our Lord Jesus Christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion, he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything. He is obsessed with arguments and debates about words. These things give rise to envy, strife, slander, wicked suspicions, constant disputes about minor matters by men who are corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth, thinking that godly devotion is a means of gain. (note how the phrase "corrupted in mind" can also be rendered as "mentally diseased", I bolded it in the box about understanding; we're talking about insanity here, and extreme foolishness. On ATS, on average, it really takes on extreme proportions. Which is a bit of a reflection of what's going on in the rest of the world as well, mostly the US because that's where most posters here come from, but other parts in the world are no different. The prophecy at 2 Timothy 3:1-9 counts across the board.)

Jeremiah 17:9,10

The heart is more treacherous* [Or “deceitful.”] than anything else and is desperate.* [Or possibly, “incurable.”]

Who can know it?

10 I, Jehovah, am searching the heart,

Examining the innermost thoughts,* [Or “deepest emotions.” Lit., “kidneys.”]

To give to each one according to his ways,

According to the fruitage of his works.

There is a very nice place in Karma hell for the DEI warriors who got rid of the old white lady. Racist garbage....

LOL Well, they issued a statement on this, after all the publicity.

And It isn't ending well for them. They just made it worse.

Idiots.
MS Society

a reply to: chiefsmom



Man oh man, almost like people are getting real tired of all this woke bs.

When are people going to see the issue with this crap?

a reply to: chiefsmom

The end of the article states it perfectly....

The Left and the far-woke always do this: they infest an organization, alienate its most ardent, reliable supporters in favor of a small cadre of whiners. They claim it's for 'diversity', and destroy the lives and careers of anyone who dares speak against it. But that small cadre of people they bend over backwards to cater to? They don't care. They're not the customer base of the organization, and they're not suddenly going to start supporting it because the staff uses pronouns in their emails.

What does happen is the actual, dedicated supporters leave, and take their money with them. And the organization suffers. This means the MS Society is harming people with MS. The trans activists are not going to step up and donate money. People like Fran spent decades working to cure MS and they threw it all away to act like moral and intellectual superiors.

The Woke Left are bullies in adulthood because they were bullied as kids. Instead of wanting to make a change they want revenge.

The public school system has eroded so much in the last 10 years it is insane and throw in people who run for local office and it is compounded.

People need to grow a set and stop being scared of saying STFU to these fringe weirdos....

a reply to: matafuchs

Well, apparently, when you pick on a 90 year old woman, people do stand up.
I'm guessing they could not handle the backlash from this.

Backpeddling and apologizing


Too little too late, I think.