The Lost Century: And How to Reclaim It.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: cdf21882

Steven Greer stopped right there. flim flam man

True, without a doubt.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
Therefore, any marvelous invention "stolen" from the public by greedy government and/or corporations must be based on the physics of our reality, expressed in mathematic principles discoverable by anyone, and thus must be repeatable, just like the science upon which the technology is based.

I have found it fascinating to study these claims of "miraculous inventions". They seem to fall into two categories:

One category has con-men, who realize they are conning people. One of the most successful con-men of all time was John Ernst Worrell Keely, who bilked investors out of a fortune with pseudoscientific claims that he had developed a great new motor, but his greates inventions were actually the pseudoscientific buzzwords he had invented to make investors think he really had something. A more modern competition for Keely is Randell Mills, who has formed various companies over the recent decades to bilk investors out of tens of millions of dollars on his pseudoscientific nonsense. A physicist Dr Park once commented about the deep pockets and shallow brains investing in the endeavors of Mills, and after decades they still have nothing to show for all that money.

Another category of inventors, are those who don't realize they are actually fooling themselves, without even realizing it. One example of this I can think of is Thomas Bearden, who made a prototype of a free energy generator and even got it patented.

US6362718B1 - Motionless electromagnetic generator - Google Patents

What happened in that case was another experimenter followed Bearden's instructions and replicated the device, and reported over-unity, the output was greater than input! Breaking every known law of physics. That experimenter published his over-unity results. A technically knowledgeable guy reviewed those results, and was able to demonstrate that the over-unity calculation was actually a miscalculation. It looks like the experimenter actually believed it was over-unity, but he didn't understand how to analyze the output correctly. This type of thing is actually more frequent than some people realize.

originally posted by: Thefineblackharm
Stan Myer made a few tweaks to his car and it suddenly ran on water. He died relatively shortly thereafter.

YOu don't reallybelieve a car ran on water alone, do you? Even con-man Bob Lazar says you can't run a car on water, but he says what you could do is use solar panels to power a device that extracts hydrogen from the water, then run the car on hydrogen. There was a video on youtube calling Lazar's corvette a "water-powered" car in the title of the video, which was a little misleading when you watch the video and Lazar explains that it takes energy to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen. So he was really running his car on water plus energy to split the water. You can't run a car on water alone and neither Stan Meyer nor anybody else has done that, despite claims otherwise.

Rational Wiki has a writeup about water-powered cars by Stan Meyer and others.

Meyer was convicted of fraud in 1996 over the claims made in his patents, and died of an aneurysm in 1998.

Hmm, why did you say his car ran on water, but not mention his conviction for fraud over the claims made in his patents? Did you not know about that?

originally posted by: Thefineblackharm
There's also the fact that um, we don't know everything there is to know about physics. So an element of physics that no one has discovered, that others might know, might appear "magical" when in reality, it's not.

That's often the pseudoscientific claim which accompanies pseudoscientific inventions, isn't it? That was certainly the case in all the examples I just gave about Keely, Mils, and Bearden, they claimed some "new science" that just wasn't understood yet, and had buzzwords to describe it. But if you assume such claims are baloney, you will almost always be right. Why is that even qualified by "almost"? Can you think of a single case where they have ever been right? Because I can't, but maybe it will happen someday, but so far all those claims have been baloney. The closest I can think of is the "cold fusion" claims where the variation in experimental results seemed to vary, which perhaps had something to do with the purity or contaminants of the palladium used in experiments. Anyway, claims that cold fusion was suppressed are ludicrous, since anybody and everybody who wanted to experiment with that was experimenting with it, but the experiments just never panned out into anything useful.

It did after all take us 2000 years of recorded time to learn how to fly, which a few years before we did, was considered impossible.

Flying never appeared magical, we saw birds do it all the time and rational people never thought that was magic.

I'm constantly fence-hopping with Greer. Sometimes he seems genuine and legit, other times he seems like a charlatan.

I recently read about the Admiral Wilson/Eric Davis exchange, which mentioned Greer having meetings with Pentagon officials, for what that's worth.

I think Greer is so underrated. I understand that he's made a few mistakes but to completely disregard his actions is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Disclosure has occurred and he was responsible for it. The lost century is really important. Focusing on the power instead of the ufo will reach other audiences who don't look at alien documentaries.

I would recommend the documentary about the “Fluxliner” ARV. The Alien Reproduction Vehicle uses the lost century - zero point/vacuum/plasma power. I hope you haven’t seen it! I really enjoyed this one.

Here tis..


a reply to: cdf21882

I remember a time where I didn’t think that physics can be hidden. With all of this suppressed knowledge we don’t have the luxury of having what some would call proof.

It’s like that by design. You can watch bad videos on YouTube where eccentric people present their evidence but it’s not going to be good enough for most people.

Anyone who would like some more back story here is a book !

The Hunt For Zero Point

a reply to: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Raptured
Years ago there was a documentary out called "Who Killed the Electric Car" that was centered around the GM EV1 - a purely electric vehicle that not only was way ahead of it's time but it apparently shook the foundations of the auto industry enough that it was mothballed.

Anywho..a segment in the movie talked about a gentleman, an inventor who created a battery for these cars which was like 10x more efficient than the ones they were putting in the cars. He was approached by a large automobile company to acquire the rights to his invention, which they did, and the product never saw the light of day.

When you can't beat the competition....buy them (and bury them)

Sad but a reflector of the world we live in

(Note: some details of what I mentioned may be off-track or innacurate. It's been awhile since I've seen it)

Yep! Saw it a couple of times, GM scrapped the EV-1 due to the major gas corps telling them to do so. That.. I believe was the conclusion. However, there's a HUGE amount of info and history that's in that documentary. 👍😊

a reply to: Matthebu1

I understand that he's made a few mistakes

these are not mistakes, these are outright fraud,



this one would have been more believable if they would have had someone run into it like on star trek movie where the guy run into the claoked klingon ship krik and crew stole to carry the whales back.



the flim flam man can not be trusted to tell the truth.

Electric autos have been around for quite a while.
I don't think the oil barons of the day liked the idea!

www.caranddriver.com...