The Lost Century: And How to Reclaim It.

I recently watched a documentary called The Lost Century: And How to Reclaim It. Michael Mazzola directed it and Steven Greer presented it. If you're unfamiliar with either of these gentlemen, they previously collaborated on the documentary film Unacknowledged which itself was very interesting.

The Lost Century talks about people who have created inventions that could revolutionize everything from the automotive industry to free energy and how these people and their inventions were met with misfortune. In some cases, the inventors died under suspicious circumstances, while others sold their inventions to big-name companies only to have their discoveries hidden away. As each story is presented, Dr. Greer ties them into the UFO secrecy agenda of the government.

Even before watching this film, I'd heard the old urban legend about the magic carburetor that could increase the efficiency of gas mileage. My father even claimed to have known someone that this happened to, but this story is even larger than that. Anyone familiar with Nikola Tesla knows he is the perfect example of this. It is mind-boggling to know what kind of technology we could have even without the idea of possible alien tech being thrown into the works.

Obviously, anyone who is into the types of subjects discussed on this site knows why this is all being suppressed. As long as governments and elites have access to advanced tech, human or otherwise, it gives them the means to keep the masses in check. Anyway, that's just my take on this. It'd be interesting to hear other people's opinions on this subject. Otherwise, I highly recommend checking out this and the director's other films, as well as Steven Greer's other work.

a reply to: cdf21882

All these supposedly "marvelous" technological inventions that could (have) revolutionized the world would have to be, by the very nature of their existence within our physical world, based on the Physics upon which our reality is founded.


So, as with the many claims that have been made regarding the miraculous technology "the government" is supposed to have "reversed engineered from extraterrestrials"....show us the the Physics!, the math that makes the "impossible" possible.


And remember; the physics we live by, that makes us, our very existence, possible, cannot be hidden, sequestered, or repressed by any "government" or authoritative body.


Because it is free, discoverable, and thus available, to anyone, anytime, possessing a willing and capable mind!

a reply to: cdf21882


Steven Greer stopped right there. flim flam man

a reply to: cdf21882

All you have to do is look into how hard it is to get a patent, the hoops you need to jump through, the money you need to have, and you get an idea right there, why many inventions don’t see the light.

It only stands to reason corporations wouldn’t want inventions coming out that would ruin their business. But some just can’t see it. Oh well

I wish I had the technical skills to (re)build a carb.

If I remember, and dumbing it down as much as my brain and memory allows, you basically just rig it to superheat the fuel to/beyond the temperature of evaporation and combustion before it hits. One of the big drawbacks of this was that it superheated your engine too, with a constant risk of overheating and blowing the engine with our current engine cooling tech at the time.

Essentially, your carburetor could get your 1980's pickup to 150-200 miles per gallon. but for less than an hour at a time.

Years ago there was a documentary out called "Who Killed the Electric Car" that was centered around the GM EV1 - a purely electric vehicle that not only was way ahead of it's time but it apparently shook the foundations of the auto industry enough that it was mothballed.

Anywho..a segment in the movie talked about a gentleman, an inventor who created a battery for these cars which was like 10x more efficient than the ones they were putting in the cars. He was approached by a large automobile company to acquire the rights to his invention, which they did, and the product never saw the light of day.

When you can't beat the competition....buy them (and bury them)

Sad but a reflector of the world we live in

(Note: some details of what I mentioned may be off-track or innacurate. It's been awhile since I've seen it)

There are lots of people working for power companies, if these inventions were let out to the people, nobody would be reliant on the power systems or their governing bodies. Same with inventions that boost mpg of vehicles, lots of profits lost, a lot of people out of work, lots less income for the government from less fuel or a different fuel cell which did not require buying anything or paying taxes on the fuel. Funny they have not taxed firewood you cut off your land yet or doubled the taxable value of land with hardwood on them.

It is all about profit and control of the masses of people, the government agencies want us reliant on the government. There are lots of inventions that have been denied to be patented or accepted to be sold in a country. The ones we hear of are usually not the best, the best ones some company will buy up the patent and bury it or the government will deny it being patented.

It is all about making money or keeping your thumb on people so they are dependent on our governments. It is true that some of the technology being designed can be dangerous, but there are only a few inventions these days that were denied as real to be dangerous.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: cdf21882

All these supposedly "marvelous" technological inventions that could (have) revolutionized the world would have to be, by the very nature of their existence within our physical world, based on the Physics upon which our reality is founded.


So, as with the many claims that have been made regarding the miraculous technology "the government" is supposed to have "reversed engineered from extraterrestrials"....show us the the Physics!, the math that makes the "impossible" possible.


And remember; the physics we live by, that makes us, our very existence, possible, cannot be hidden, sequestered, or repressed by any "government" or authoritative body.


Because it is free, discoverable, and thus available, to anyone, anytime, possessing a willing and capable mind!

Men can become women and the vaccine is safe and effective.

Physics is science and science is by consensus.

WHO says it can’t be covered up?

a reply to: Dalamax


Physics is a branch of Mathematics, from which much (if not all) "science" procedes.

If you cannot comprehend the difference between physics and science......



The study of physics, and revelations regarding how physics governs and controls what is scientifically, and therefore, technologically, possible in our universe, requires no more than an agile and willing mind.

Until, and unless, some authority gains the power to restrain humanity within the confines of each and every individual mind without the consent of said individuals, the study of, and discoveries derived thereof, are and will remain unfettered.

Just as music is available to all and any capable of making, and/or experiencing, it.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: cdf21882

And remember; the physics we live by, that makes us, our very existence, possible, cannot be hidden, sequestered, or repressed by any "government" or authoritative body.

Really? Look up Missouri vs Biden and multiple other cases currently in the courts. You know... those cases about the hiding, sequestering, and repression of science that was inconvenient to pharma profits and government authoritarian's narratives? These are cases about using those tactics to hold up the dozens of government lies you gobbled and often parroted on this very forum.

But let's go with the asinine premise anyway, that unless there is physics to explain it then it's just a scam or conspiracy... and you can fill in some blanks for us all.

Please provide for me the physics that makes your warm, wet, organic brain produce your consciousness. You know, the consciousness that allows you go to Internet forums to constantly promote views from the corporate sponsors of commercial media, lying shills in government, and celebrity pseudoskeptics? Obviously, this is open and transparent physics since we're conscious and we do it all the time... it's inconceivable that there are no mathmatical models to fully explain it in terms of physics, right?

At some scale subatomic quantum particles are not even "real" until they are acted upon to form matter. Can you explain to me why causality breaks down and matter becomes of indeterminate nature below a certain size... in terms of physics?

Your beliefs are set in stone. The stone your beliefs are set in started its existence as pure energy, but they had to be something before that because of the very laws of physics you seem to have selectively applied to your beliefs. Please show me the physics that explains creating something from nothing or I'm afraid, by your own evidentiary standards, this entire reality is simply a conspiracy theory along with your beliefs about it.

Because it is free, discoverable, and thus available, to anyone, anytime, possessing a willing and capable mind!

Kind of a self-pwn with the bolding there. Being patronizing does often look that way though. Many such cases.

What you meant in the comments preceding this quote is you want Neil deGrasse Tyson to make cooing noises to you while babbling about topics he's never bothered looking into, not to be shown physics. Somewhere in there, without ever actually applying science, he'll tell you what to believe and what is impossible. He's a tireless pharma supporter too... so you know he has enormous amounts of knowledge and integrity, even if he does support violating laws that were created in response to Nazi medical experiments. It's The Science, y'all.

If you wanted to see the physics you could literally just go look at some physics from real and productive physicists. The answers are mostly already there to a sufficient degree that you'll either understand the basic premise behind some "impossible" tech or you never will. Do you understand the physics that explains planetary motion or are you just taking their word for it? What about the physics that is behind the device you access the Internet with, you got all that down?

It's disingenuous to ask for proof that you'll be unwilling to put effort into, or lack the aptitude to understand, anyway. Not that this isn't exactly the mentality I've come to expect from certain elements here on ATS that fancy themselves as emissaries of The Science. Having come to be a shining light of truth upon the dangerous conspiracy theorists you all seem to have forgotten to bring much of any science to the party. Instead of depending on the effort you've made to educate yourself on the topic, of engaging the actual content from which discussions are based, or just being honest with yourself about being too lazy to do either of the former, you rehash different variations of tired pseudoskeptic tropes... all while ignoring the giant hole in physics where explaining your entire existence should be located.

It's totally irrelevant if the OP is true or false, or even if it has any merit at all. You will retain your beliefs without making serious effort to challenge them and nothing the OP, Steven Greer, or every physics journal in the world can do will change that.

a reply to: ksihkahe

Well put. I would have just said the dude was blinded by ignorance and moved on. I'm not an expert on many things, but I'm at least willing to hear people out and hopefully learn something in the process. I'm still new here, but I've noticed there are a lot of folks on this site that pass of thier opinion or beliefs as gospel and try to shut anyone down who believes differently. Or they just like to troll. Anyway thanks for the response.

Whenever anyone talks about climate change, or we should use oil or not use oil, or etc. etc., I always remind myself that that entire discussion is irrelevant because we've had clean technology since pretty much a month after the first car was invented. The only problem is that this technology is free and that doesn't sit well with a few people. This also tells me that not eating meat etc. to "save the world" is absolute BS.

Stan Myer made a few tweaks to his car and it suddenly ran on water. He died relatively shortly thereafter.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: cdf21882

All these supposedly "marvelous" technological inventions that could (have) revolutionized the world would have to be, by the very nature of their existence within our physical world, based on the Physics upon which our reality is founded.


So, as with the many claims that have been made regarding the miraculous technology "the government" is supposed to have "reversed engineered from extraterrestrials"....show us the the Physics!, the math that makes the "impossible" possible.


And remember; the physics we live by, that makes us, our very existence, possible, cannot be hidden, sequestered, or repressed by any "government" or authoritative body.


Because it is free, discoverable, and thus available, to anyone, anytime, possessing a willing and capable mind!

You aren't addressing the OP point at all. No one ever said these other technologies didn't have physics involved. The technologies are just suppressed for other reasons and it's not that hard to do. There's also the fact that um, we don't know everything there is to know about physics. So an element of physics that no one has discovered, that others might know, might appear "magical" when in reality, it's not. It did after all take us 2000 years of recorded time to learn how to fly, which a few years before we did, was considered impossible.

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: Dalamax


Physics is a branch of Mathematics, from which much (if not all) "science" procedes.

If you cannot comprehend the difference between physics and science......



The study of physics, and revelations regarding how physics governs and controls what is scientifically, and therefore, technologically, possible in our universe, requires no more than an agile and willing mind.

Until, and unless, some authority gains the power to restrain humanity within the confines of each and every individual mind without the consent of said individuals, the study of, and discoveries derived thereof, are and will remain unfettered.

Just as music is available to all and any capable of making, and/or experiencing, it.

I guess you have no idea how easy it is for those in power to control things. People HAVE invented some of these things. They are just prevented from emerging. THAT is not rocket science, but apparently you think it is.

a reply to: ksihkahe

Physics cannot be hidden by any authority, just as mathematics which is used to express the principles of physics can not be made to "disappear" by those same authorities. Yes, those authorities can repress the teaching of the necessary mathematics, and may repress the communication of mathematical developments; but the math itself remains to be discovered by those who seek it, and so it is with the physics that underlay all the technology in existence, and existence itself.

The Government cannot "hide" the fact that 1+1=2, or to state it another, more encompassing way, that 1+1 results in twice the original amount. Nor can the fact that the circumference of a circle is equal to its diameter multiplied by Pi.

Even if they "hid" anything "circular" from the public, those constants would remain intrinsic to our reality, just waiting to be "rediscovered" by some inquiring mind. Over and over again, ad infinitum if need be.



"Science" and technology, can be repressed, because they require things over which authorities can exert control.

But no authority can dictate the speed of light on a whim.


Therefore, any marvelous invention "stolen" from the public by greedy government and/or corporations must be based on the physics of our reality, expressed in mathematic principles discoverable by anyone, and thus must be repeatable, just like the science upon which the technology is based.

While there is no doubting Tesla was a genius, he also made a lot of claims he simply never backed up and in some cases, that were misconstrued by others.

Did he have some ideas that were likely supressed when he died? absolutely.

Were these things such as zero point energy or harnessing free energy? - nope.

originally posted by: Thefineblackharm

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: Dalamax


Physics is a branch of Mathematics, from which much (if not all) "science" procedes.

If you cannot comprehend the difference between physics and science......



The study of physics, and revelations regarding how physics governs and controls what is scientifically, and therefore, technologically, possible in our universe, requires no more than an agile and willing mind.

Until, and unless, some authority gains the power to restrain humanity within the confines of each and every individual mind without the consent of said individuals, the study of, and discoveries derived thereof, are and will remain unfettered.

Just as music is available to all and any capable of making, and/or experiencing, it.

I guess you have no idea how easy it is for those in power to control things. People HAVE invented some of these things. They are just prevented from emerging. THAT is not rocket science, but apparently you think it is.

on this, is it not the case that the US government can take peoples patents from them and keep them for themselves if they deem them "Dangerous" when the inventors apply to patent them?

originally posted by: stu119

on this, is it not the case that the US government can take peoples patents from them and keep them for themselves if they deem them "Dangerous" when the inventors apply to patent them?

I think the key word is "deem." That can be very subjective, especially considering the things that people "deem" dangerous these day, such as differing opinions, etc. Say someone invents a safe natural cure for cancer that has no side effects. 100% safe. Well big pharma can come in and say "that will cause us to loose billions of dollars." So then they go to their government cronies and push on them. Next thing you know, the FDA comes in and rules this new cancer cure is not safe. They don't even have to give a reason. The only danger it posed was to the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies, and by association the government. If something takes money from the establishment and puts in into the pocket of you ans me, it will always be "dangerous" and squashed.