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originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
People this site often ask why non Americans are so concerned with US politics.
This is why.
You have a serious presidential candidate saying not only would he not support NATO allies, he would encourage Russia.
This would be appalling enough normally but to say it during the invasion by Russia of one of it's neighbours.
Trump is right about one thing, European Countries will need to spend more on defence. The fact the Trump is a possible or even the probable next president shows that they can't trust the US.
Decades of close alliance and support mean nothing.
I feel sorry for the remaining sane US conservatives that this man is now what represents you.
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
Good, maybe more people will realise Trumps complete unsuitability for office.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
And its OK with you that he would encourage the invasion of US allies?
Calm down... I kind of wish people would stop the OMFG! selective outrage every time Trump says something.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
Good, maybe more people will realise Trumps complete unsuitability for office.
WEEeeee another 4 years of Biden... That's the Ticket!
Was the 4 years under Trump really that bad for you? Your life today is so much better? Seems under Biden the world started to burn all over the place.
What did he do in your eyes that was so wrong during his administration? It seems everything he was trying to do and the left pushed to stop him is biting us in the butt today.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
People this site often ask why non Americans are so concerned with US politics.
This is why.
You have a serious presidential candidate saying not only would he not support NATO allies, he would encourage Russia.
This would be appalling enough normally but to say it during the invasion by Russia of one of it's neighbours.
Trump is right about one thing, European Countries will need to spend more on defence. The fact the Trump is a possible or even the probable next president shows that they can't trust the US.
Decades of close alliance and support mean nothing.
I feel sorry for the remaining sane US conservatives that this man is now what represents you.
Okay, cool. Now change the channel and show us how Biden is doing. After 10 minutes of that, switch it again and show us Kamala, McConnell, Nikki and just for fun we can throw in Newsom as well. While we're appraising these so called "experts" you can look me in the eye (not literally) and explain why they are qualified to talk Putin down from a ledge and conclude the war in Ukraine for the best interests of ALL parties involved, instead of spinning gold from blood soaked straw.
Do you think they want peace? Do you think they have any interest in reducing the military manufacturing and spending and overseas occupation? And more importantly, do you think they have the negotiation skills to persuade Putin as opposed to having him conveniently neutralized just in time to launch another color revolution so a UN puppet can be installed, fulfilling expansionist prophecy?
originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: BedevereTheWise
Sounds like the cries of a scared, weak brother when he talks a lot of trash and he finds out his sronger brother isnt gonna be there to protect him from all the people he trash talked
Trump is right. # nato .. if they wont pay to defend themselves then why should america pay in blood and treasure?
Dont like it? Good.
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
Good, maybe more people will realise Trumps complete unsuitability for office.
WEEeeee another 4 years of Biden... That's the Ticket!
Was the 4 years under Trump really that bad for you? Your life today is so much better? Seems under Biden the world started to burn all over the place.
What did he do in your eyes that was so wrong during his administration? It seems everything he was trying to do and the left pushed to stop him is biting us in the butt today.
Biden is a truly terrible candidate.
Still can't think of anypont he has said he would support russia invading NATO allies
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
People this site often ask why non Americans are so concerned with US politics.
This is why.
You have a serious presidential candidate saying not only would he not support NATO allies, he would encourage Russia.
This would be appalling enough normally but to say it during the invasion by Russia of one of it's neighbours.
Trump is right about one thing, European Countries will need to spend more on defence. The fact the Trump is a possible or even the probable next president shows that they can't trust the US.
Decades of close alliance and support mean nothing.
I feel sorry for the remaining sane US conservatives that this man is now what represents you.
Okay, cool. Now change the channel and show us how Biden is doing. After 10 minutes of that, switch it again and show us Kamala, McConnell, Nikki and just for fun we can throw in Newsom as well. While we're appraising these so called "experts" you can look me in the eye (not literally) and explain why they are qualified to talk Putin down from a ledge and conclude the war in Ukraine for the best interests of ALL parties involved, instead of spinning gold from blood soaked straw.
Do you think they want peace? Do you think they have any interest in reducing the military manufacturing and spending and overseas occupation? And more importantly, do you think they have the negotiation skills to persuade Putin as opposed to having him conveniently neutralized just in time to launch another color revolution so a UN puppet can be installed, fulfilling expansionist prophecy?
Feel free to share Tumps plan for peace.
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Imhere
It's becoming apparent that Trump doesn't understand the historical significance behind WHY nations like Germany aren't paying their way the way Trump thinks they should.
There's seven US garrisons in Europe, five of them in Germany. Their army presence is headquartered in Germany, nearly 40,000 troops are there. The US and NATO actively decided that because of Germanys history, to basicslly neuter them from focus8ng anything on military spending. Why do you think they make such good cars?
Trump can't tell a nation like Germany to pull their own weight, while neglecting to admit that Germany is reliant on the US for protection. So what Trump has been "trolling" or "joking about" Russia attacking these nations so they start ramping up their military spending again, begs the questions, why is he beating the drums of war?
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
Good, maybe more people will realise Trumps complete unsuitability for office.
WEEeeee another 4 years of Biden... That's the Ticket!
Was the 4 years under Trump really that bad for you? Your life today is so much better? Seems under Biden the world started to burn all over the place.
What did he do in your eyes that was so wrong during his administration? It seems everything he was trying to do and the left pushed to stop him is biting us in the butt today.
Biden is a truly terrible candidate.
Still can't think of anypont he has said he would support russia invading NATO allies
That's because he can barely chew gum and walk, much less speculate on foreign military strategy.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
People this site often ask why non Americans are so concerned with US politics.
This is why.
You have a serious presidential candidate saying not only would he not support NATO allies, he would encourage Russia.
This would be appalling enough normally but to say it during the invasion by Russia of one of it's neighbours.
Trump is right about one thing, European Countries will need to spend more on defence. The fact the Trump is a possible or even the probable next president shows that they can't trust the US.
Decades of close alliance and support mean nothing.
I feel sorry for the remaining sane US conservatives that this man is now what represents you.
Okay, cool. Now change the channel and show us how Biden is doing. After 10 minutes of that, switch it again and show us Kamala, McConnell, Nikki and just for fun we can throw in Newsom as well. While we're appraising these so called "experts" you can look me in the eye (not literally) and explain why they are qualified to talk Putin down from a ledge and conclude the war in Ukraine for the best interests of ALL parties involved, instead of spinning gold from blood soaked straw.
Do you think they want peace? Do you think they have any interest in reducing the military manufacturing and spending and overseas occupation? And more importantly, do you think they have the negotiation skills to persuade Putin as opposed to having him conveniently neutralized just in time to launch another color revolution so a UN puppet can be installed, fulfilling expansionist prophecy?
Feel free to share Tumps plan for peace.
Feel free to share Biden's plan for peace. All we're waiting for is Taiwan to get invaded and he's officially sh!t the bed.
originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: Xtrozero
A closely related topic is the question of why, after ONE THIRD OF A CENTURY since the Fall of the Wall, the wealthy nations of Europe still seem unwilling to get their act together regarding common defense of THEIR continent.
One reason why is that Russia ain't the only European power still operating with a nineteenth-century mentality regarding relations with other European countries.
Cheers