Hind Rajab, 6, found dead in Gaza days after phone calls for help

originally posted by: ToneD
Slow down and use your head.

Right back atchya

Are jews the homeless ones in the holyland ? ?
Really ?

They will be if Hamas and the Palestinians have their way. (and if Turkey and Iran have their way too). Again .. you FALSELY claimed that no one was denying the Jews their homeland. I showed that is false.

The so-called 'palestinians' weren't homeless. They have the West Bank and Gaza. But because of their own bad behavior, they are occupied in the West Bank and they are under siege in Gaza. A situation of their own making. They could have grown up and modernized, accepting a two state solution. But instead they choose terrorism and spending their resources on hate and violence instead of growth and prosperity. THEIR OWN FAULT.

FlyersFan
The so-called 'palestinians' weren't homeless.

"so-called" ??
your bigotry is showing !
btw
Senior, elderly Pals are OLDER than the formation of israel itself.
-another example of denying this fact. (delusional)

-another fact
The Majority of jews want netanyahu GONE.

The 'israel' gov. see's hostages as nothing
but collateral pawns,
and nothing else.
Stupid jews don't realise,
that their government, doesn't
give a rats @ss about their own people or
hostages, but
only wanted a continuous land grab,
from all it's neighbors and to expand
borders. OBVIOUS to all.

A simple question
that zionists avoid and will not answer >
FOR ALL the Zionistic supporters out there,
why are you denying Christians, Muslims, Abrahamic
students their equal rights in the holy land ? ? ? !!!

Avoidance is a form of delusion btw.

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a reply to: ToneD

The 'israel' gov. see's hostages as nothing but collateral pawns, and nothing else. Stupid jews don't realise, that their government, doesn't give a rats @ss about their own people or hostages

Your antisemitism is showing btw.

Also fyi, Israel calls their people ‘diamonds’, precious stones.

The palis call their people ‘martyrs’. Hard to negotiate with terrorists who don’t give a crap about their people. It’s evident they don’t, just look at them. They are no better off than they were hundreds of years ago. Stone Age thinking and barbarism. All of their own doing.

originally posted by: ToneD
"so-called" ??
your bigotry is showing !

They are SO CALLED 'Palestinians' because Arafat made up the term. There is no country of Palestine. And the majority of so called 'Palestinians' are actually Jordanian and Egyptian. That's who had the land and the people there. Read some history.

FOR ALL the Zionistic supporters out there,
why are you denying Christians, Muslims, Abrahamic
students their equal rights in the holy land ? ? ? !!!

You keep deflecting with that.
The answer is the same ... that's a separate topic so go start a thread on it if you wish.

originally posted by:FlyersFan

originally ToneD
"so-called" ??[/post]
your bigotry is showing !

They are SO CALLED 'Palestinians' because . . made up the term.

Google
"historical maps of Palestine"
or are you afraid of the truth ?
All you are doing, is parroting back zionistic propaganda.
Why are you afraid to google
"historical maps of Palestine ? ?

FOR ALL the Zionistic supporters out there,
why are you denying Christians, Muslims, Abrahamic
students their equal rights in the Holy Land ? ? ? !!!
simple question.

originally posted by:FlyersFan
The answer is the same ...
that's a separate topic.

^ classic AVOIDANCE syndrome
For Peace and Equality to exist,
there needs to be Equality for ALL.
you still, have not provided an answer to
a simple question.
Reflecting on the problem in israel,
even Iran does not have an apartheid,
where there are beaches, roads,
separation between ethnic and religion.,
As the "jewish Only" exclusive indoctrination in israel.
Jews living in Iran
The jews of iran want to stay in iran for a reason,
unlike the political exclusive zionism
racism in israel> is hell.
zionists have created their own hell, then they
project as to why people hate the exclusiveness and apartheids.
Just more . . of the diluted brainwashing insanity.

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originally posted by: ToneD
Google "historical maps of Palestine"

Here you go ... historical map of the area.
Geee ... all Jewish.



Read a history book. The Gazans are Jordanian and Egyptian. That is who had that land area before modern day Israel was formed. Britain too (1920-1948). "Mandatory Palestine" and TransJordan etc There is no country of Palestine. Never has been. 'Palestinian' is a term made up by Arafat. OH ... and lots of Jews lived in that area all during that time period as well. They were attacked by the Muslims alot.

^ classic AVOIDANCE syndrome

^ classic DEFLECTION and DRIVEL. For the third time, if you want to talk about human rights in Israel, then start a thread on it. That's not the topic of this thread.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I am just curious if a land is called America, are they not American? Or perhaps Canadian if that land is Canada. If the land is called Palestine, why would the residents not be called ... Palestinian?
I offer my map printed in a nineteenth century Bible as my understanding of the land being called Palestine before cars and planes were a thing.date is at bottom of third image as filed in the library of Congress in Washington, according to it. This thing is full of beautiful lithographs in near mint condition. The cover and binding is going to # though. I'm told there are folks that can repair and restore that. I intend to make this a family treasure, it needs to be handled with falling apart.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Palistine was a region not a country. Same as saying Asia. China is part of Asia but you can't call them Asians when the territory has multiple countries.

What your looking at is a 1st century map from the Romans. They still has Israel devided by the 13 tribes of Israel. For example you see Judah and Samaria on the map those were all parts of Israel. The part that isn't on the map belongs to Jordan and Syria today.

Palistine was never a country never was there a palistinian ruler or for that matter even currency. Judiah and Samaria each had separate currency and ruled by different governors. As I stated earlier the Roman's used the 12 tribes of Israel as the basis for each district. Meaning you just proved news lived there in the 1st century.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

The so called 'palestinians' are all Jordanians and Egyptians.
The Muslims accepted Jordan as their leadership and used the Egyptian currency.
That's who had control of the land before Israel.
Arafat invented the term 'palestinians'.

Mandatory Palestine
Jordanian Annexation of the West Bank

posted by: dragonridr
Palestine was a region

Actually,
Immigrants as netanyahu's family, along with
european and russian immigrants needed
official documents from
Palestine such as this >
Official immigation to Palestine Document

Worlds Oldest Existing Map of the Holy-Land >
Christian Not jewish.
The Madaba Holy-Land Map

The very first postage stamps ever issued for israel
were in May 14, 1948,
Where as Palestine had official postage stamps as far
back as In 1860, with ten operating postal facilities.
google Oldest Palestine Postal Stamps

btw
Who lived in Palestine first?
the Canaanites.
Britain granted the land of Palestine, which it did not own,
to the Zionist movement to establish a “national home"

A Question to ponder
Historical wonders that exist today . .
-Egyptian Great Pyramids
-The amazing Nazca Lines stretching across
southern Peru's desert 500 to 300 BCE.
-The Great wall of China built in 7th century Bc.
-The amazing rock cut Petra of Jordan
-Palestine Dome of the Rock (Qabbat as-Sakhra).
Dedicated in 692 CE
-Christian and Arab mosaics as "Tree of Life"
and Hisham's Palace
-Greek Parthenon 447 Bc
-Roman king herod 's temple mount first century BCE
Where are the 'Great Structures' built by hebrews?
just asking.

F.F your a joke.
You stated that Palestine did not ever exist.
When told to just
"google historical maps of Palestine" your
AVOIDING syndrome surfaced again. Lol

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posted by:FlyersFan
The so called 'palestinians' are all Jordanians and Egyptians. [/url]

Pals and their ancestors have been there for thousands of years.
but then,
you'd argue that all asians are chinese, or
all whites are english . . .

give it up, your making yourself look uneducated.

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a reply to: ToneD

Shrugs..

Many Palestinian villagers claim ancestral ties to Arab tribes that settled in Palestine during or after the Arab conquest,[2] while others trace their roots to Turkish, North African, Kurdish, Egyptian, and Turkman origins. Some claim Jewish[3] or Samaritan[4][5] ancestry based on oral traditions. Genetic studies reveal that modern Palestinians share genetic continuity with Bronze-Age Levantine populations and exhibit similarity with both contemporary Jewish and Arab-speaking Levantine groups. [6][7][8][9][10][11]


en.m.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=A%202021%20study%20by%20the,Canaanites)%20from%20around%202500%20BCE.

Palestinians claiming they are a “race” is like Texans claiming they are a race.

All the DNA is mixed, so any of the three groups can make claims through their ancestors they have claim of this or that.

Sorry. Isreal is more open to religious freedom and sharing the holy cites.

a reply to: ToneD

Yes they needed documents the British had restrictions on who could enter the region. Part of the Balfour documents the British controlled that area from 1922 to 1948. Palistine referred to the area now known as Jordan Syria and Israel.

Now let's correct some things the canaanites was not a specific ethnic group in fact they were made up of Akkadian, Egyptian, Ugaritic Phoenician/Punic and Hebrews. So it was a mixed population in 2 BCE. Akkadians are wiped out by the 1st century along with the Phoenicians. Hebrews become the dominate people in the 1st century (The time of Jesus). In the 5th century Christians dominate the wholly land and by the 12th century Muslims.

posted by: Lazy88
Palestinians claiming they are a “race” is like Texans claiming they are a race.
Isreal is more open to . . sharing the holy cites.

Palestinians are a people.
Just as Jamaicans are a people.,
Just as Japanese are their own people . .
they are not Chinese.
fyi
Palestinians hold privately owned homes,
but are told to move
to other countries. (ethnic genocide)

WHY not value equal-rights to ALL God fearing
people of the Holy-Land ? ?
Do not devoted Christians have a right to reside in Bethlehem with
Equal-Rights ?
Do not Ancestral-Pals have a right to enjoy Equal-Rights ?
Do not African Jews have a right to enjoy Equal-Rights ?
Just a bit Ironic though >
That Atheist and Secular russian, european immigrant jews,
claim that 'g_dS' chose only them, to live in the Holy-Land.
Fyi
People under occupation have every legal right to
resist, fight and defend themselves and their homes,
and a legal-right to Self-Determination.
Domination of others is NOT a legal right nor
a moral right. No matter what your beliefs are.
Killing Doctors-without-Boarders,
Sniping out 148 media reporters incl. american reporters,
then attacking their funerals is FASCIST, as israel is.
Restricting Christians, spitting and
treating Christians as second class citizens is FASCIST, as israel is.

"Quote-Israel is more open to . . sharing "
IF ONLY. *sigh*
Truth is, "what is mine is mine; What's yours is mine"
A two class system, zionists act as if they are above the laws,
and that the Holy-Land only belongs to them.
Hence the fascism.

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a reply to: ToneD

Pals and their ancestors have been there for thousands of years.
but then,
you'd argue that all asians are chinese, or
all whites are english . . .

give it up, your making yourself look uneducated.

They don't care about the truth. They know that there are maps, that the people of that territory known as Palestine are called Palestinians, etc.

It's one of the ways they dehumanize people. If Palestine does not exist, nor do Palestinians exist there, why waste time talking about occupation, repression or violation of human rights?

It is simply part of a sick argument of dehumanization to ignore that there were people there before the Israelis arrived, to ignore that they kicked out hundreds of thousands of people from their homes to occupy them, to ignore that they have been expanding their territory illegally for decades at the expense of homes and confine those Palestinians who do not exist in a large open-air prison in Gaza, and of course, to ignore the fact that Israel is the only active colonialist country in the year 2024 in the world.

They are so miserable that it is not enough to take away their lives, their lands, their homes, their past, their present or their future; they are so miserable that they want to take away even their identity.

originally posted by: ToneD


Palestinians are a people.

And, again…

“modern Palestinians share genetic continuity with Bronze-Age Levantine populations and exhibit similarity with both contemporary Jewish and Arab-speaking Levantine groups. “

If your done grandstanding, can you honestly answer the question…

All the DNA is mixed, so any of the three groups can make claims through their ancestors they have claim of this or that?

Sorry. Isreal is more open to religious freedom and sharing the holy cites.

a reply to: Lazy88

Isreal is more open to religious

So religiously open that before they arrived there were 10% Christians in Palestine and currently Christians do not reach 2% of the population in Israel.

sharing the holy cites

They shared and distributed them so well that they kept almost everything. Sharing what is not yours is not generosity, it is usurping.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
I haven't commented on this war since it started... but I have to say, it should be clear to most at this point that Israel is going way overboard, and the people saying "this is just war" must have zero empathy. Even the MSM has a hard time portraying the war without making Israel look like war criminals. If the situation were reversed, I would be saying the exact same thing, but I wouldn't need to because the world would be filled with outrage.

When many people on the left and right agree on something, there must be something to it. And I see many people on both the left and right calling out Israel for their war crimes. And just look at the politicians trying to incite more war in the middle east, it's all the same war mongering fools. Merchants of death, that's what they are. Make no mistake, they need wars to sell their weaponry, and probably also thin out the global population while they're at it.

Are they really going overboard? When the US was attacked on 9-11 it turned around and conquered Afghanistan and Iraq.

Afghanistan war casualties.
Overall, the war killed an estimated 176,000–212,000+ people, including 46,319 civilians. Link.

Iraq war casualties.
PLOS Medicine Survey[4] 460,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war including more than 60% of deaths directly attributable to violence. Link.

Current casualties of the Israel-Hamas war.
As of 18 February 2024, over 30,000 people (28,473 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli) have been killed in the Israel–Hamas war, including 88 journalists (83 Palestinian, 2 Israeli and 3 Lebanese) and over 136 UNRWA aid workers. Lin k.

Looks like to me Israel has a long way to go. But getting Pearl Harbored tends to make people upset.

Japanese casualties of WW2.
2,500,000 to 3,100,000

People sometimes need to be reminded why war is so bad and the option you don't want to use. And if you start a war to commit genocide you really shouldn't whine when it's committed on you. Remember for Israel this was a major slap in the face. Most of Israel had friends and family that died or were taken hostage on 10-7. For Hamas it was Saturday.

a reply to: dragonridr
I see it differently. I see it as even the Israelis and jews are technically Palestinians if that is the name of the land. I also never stated Jews have not been there, but everyone wants to pretend they are the only ones that were. Those lands were not entirely Jewish, there were many semitic peoples in those Kingdoms that were not Jewish at all.

The Jews of Israel themselves are all Palestinian since they reside in the land that has been called Palestine for far longer than it was ever known as Israel. I have started asking AI bots questions because the4y tend to respond faster and with more accurate content than the search engine. Here is what it responded to me about the Semitic cultures of the past in the present day borders of Israel.

The region that is present-day Israel has been inhabited by various Semitic cultures throughout history. Some of the notable Semitic cultures that have lived in this region include:

1. Canaanites: The Canaanites were one of the earliest known Semitic peoples to inhabit the land of Canaan, which encompasses present-day Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, and parts of Jordan and Syria. They are considered to be the indigenous population of the region and are mentioned in ancient texts such as the Bible.

2. Israelites: The Israelites were a Semitic-speaking people who inhabited the region of Canaan in antiquity. They are known for their monotheistic religion, which would later develop into Judaism. The Israelites are also described in the Bible as forming the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah.

3. Phoenicians: The Phoenicians were another Semitic-speaking people who established a maritime trading civilization in the coastal areas of present-day Israel and Lebanon. They were known for their seafaring skills, trade networks, and the development of the Phoenician alphabet, which later influenced other writing systems.

4. Assyrians and Babylonians: Both the Assyrians and Babylonians were ancient Mesopotamian civilizations that had influence in the region of present-day Israel at different points in history. These Semitic cultures conquered and ruled over the area, leaving their mark on the local history and culture.

5. Persians: The Persian Empire, ruled by the Achaemenid dynasty, also had control over the region of present-day Israel following the conquest of the Babylonians. The Persians, who were speakers of an Indo-European language, allowed for the restoration of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and exerted influence over the local populations.

These are just a few examples of the Semitic cultures that have inhabited the region of present-day Israel throughout history. The area has been a crossroads of different peoples, cultures, and civilizations, leading to a rich and diverse history shaped by various Semitic and non-Semitic influences.

The state of Israel itself, is a prime example of government anti-semitic policies. This is why the anti-semite label is no longer the cultural death knell it used to be, people just don't buy the horse# anymore when it comes from anti-semitic people.

a reply to: ntech620

Remember for Israel this was a major slap in the face. Most of Israel had friends and family that died or were taken hostage on 10-7. For Hamas it was Saturday.

Remember that the non-Jewish Palestinian population has been slapped for 75 years, expelled from their homes and confining millions of them in an open-air prison.

Could you please remind me, in any of the wars you mention, was there a fight against an opponent who did not even have an army?

Also, could you remind me which of those countries at war he colonized, for example; Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Japan, Vietnam... and sent civilian citizens to these countries to create settler settlements after World War II until today?

Any case in which the natives were prohibited from returning to their homes at the end of the war?

Palestine has no army. Palestinian civilians are 5,483,550, Hamas are 40,000 fighters; without tanks, maritime force, without aviation, without missiles (they have rockets). Israel is the 18th world power in terms of war power. This is not a war, it is a systematic extermination.

To make it clearer who is committing genocides against whom, you could take a look at the maps of Palestine from 1948 to the present day. You can see that it is ethnic cleansing.