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originally posted by: JinMI
When you allow one branch of gov't to violate established law, where else does it take you?
Do tell?
I said that if you don't want to operate under the immigration laws fine.
Obstruction of justice is perfectly acceptable too. Sedition? Even dereliction of duty if we want to include military.
Pick your poison really.
I'm talking about US immigration laws. I'm waiting for you to cite the laws that the gov't entities are breaking.
8 USC 1325
(d)Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.
How interesting.....
Perhaps fixing a broken immigration system would be a great start then.
The executive has the right and they are within their jurisdiction to implement policy which they see fit to handle this matter.
SCOTUS can check them, as well as congress.
Not really, an individual isn't a gov't entity and no, it isn't two tier, it just means the duty of one group gives them leeway, like firemen breaking a cars windows so they can get to a hydrant, especially if the car was parked where it shouldn't have been.
Under normal circumstances, if a random person broke the windows of that car, they broke the law. In the scenario above, nobody is going to be held accountable. It was what had to be done by people with that authority.
Perhaps that fix is what you are seeing in the US right now.
originally posted by: daskakik
. I'm saying that the OP thinking they can just use a dictionary definition to claim the contract has been broken, is hyperbole.
originally posted by: JinMI
...within applicable law. We already settled this didn't we?
So if you're wondering why I keep logically concluding that you are advocating for a two tiered justice system, here it is. The laws apply, or they don't
Somehow I doubt that allowing millions of undocumented illegal immigrants into the country is a fix for anything. Well, if we're using the definitional, unironic version of the word "fix."
originally posted by: FlyersFan
Both the American people and the government agreed to this.
But we are being invaded and the government isn't stopping it.
I included a definition of 'invasion' to be clear.
Therefore, it looks like the contract between the government and the people are broken.
I could be wrong. But I could also be right. I just don't know.
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: FlyersFan
The " contract agreement " was broken over 200 years ago, when Washington DC was under the control of a foreign power. And then burnt to the ground.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: Mantiss2021
Excellent. Someone is on topic!
You asked - But where in that document does it encumber the citizens of the Country to perform their reciprocal service to the Government?
My questions - Does someone have to do something of service, or is simply being a citizen holding up their end of the contract? Like the citizen saying - "I'll be a citizen and I'll pay for everything if you'll take care of everything" and the government saying "We will be the government and keep invaders out".
I just gave you two examples where they don't, cops chasing a criminal going over the speed limit and destruction of property by firemen because the property doesn't have the value of the humans they might save.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm ok with those exemptions.
They won't all add to the GDP, but I'm thinking most will.
You got a whole bunch millenials and alphas that are not even thinking about making babies. Like I said, the higher ups might be taking that into account. I can't blame them.
originally posted by: JinMI
Your two analogies are not logical. Police and fireman have a specific duty and that requires specific authority. But moreover, the critical point in any case is a criminal mind. Police and fireman, largely aren't breaking the laws for the sake of some political end. They are doing it inline with their duty.
Again, even giving your opinion the benefit of the doubt, breaking the law and spitting in the face of all of the legal immigrants and the ones waiting their turn is not the correct way. Especially if you need to violate the law to do it.
(2) One-year filing deadline.
(i) For purposes of section 208(a)(2)(B) of the Act, an applicant has the burden of proving:
(A) By clear and convincing evidence that the application has been filed within 1 year of the date of the alien's arrival in the United States, or
(B) To the satisfaction of the asylum officer, the immigration judge, or the Board that he or she qualifies for an exception to the 1-year deadline.
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
WE THE PEOPLE Decide what is " Fit " , Not Our Elected " Employees " .
originally posted by: daskakik
Let me just stop you there, nobody alive today agreed to this.
Still this isn't an invasion.