Let's Talk About Vivek (Because No One Wants To)

I love all the things he says.

He feels like Obama 2.0 so I don’t trust.

Hope he runs for Governor or Congressman in Ohio and proves his words through actions.

a reply to: pianopraze

A gubernatorial office might be his best bet following the 2024 campaign. People want to sample his leadership without betting the whole country on him, and he needs to get out from under the MAGA steam roller if he wants to get behind the wheel and steer it in the right direction. Anchoring his political career and demonstrating his methods are applicable and effective in real world administrative environment will go a long, long way toward guaranteeing 2028 or even 2030 if he has to grind that long to satisfy the skeptics.

The problem is 6 years from now, what will be left of our nation. Does he have the luxury of proper buildup and launch? He is impatient and for good reason.

originally posted by: lilzazz


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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: pianopraze

A gubernatorial office might be his best bet following the 2024 campaign. People want to sample his leadership without betting the whole country on him, and he needs to get out from under the MAGA steam roller if he wants to get behind the wheel and steer it in the right direction. Anchoring his political career and demonstrating his methods are applicable and effective in real world administrative environment will go a long, long way toward guaranteeing 2028 or even 2030 if he has to grind that long to satisfy the skeptics.

The problem is 6 years from now, what will be left of our nation. Does he have the luxury of proper buildup and launch? He is impatient and for good reason.

originally posted by: lilzazz


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So you Actually Agree with me for Once here on ATS about Vivek ? Not his Time in 2024 , but if he " Stays " the Present Course he could be Considered a Playa in Days to Come ...........

a reply to: TzarChasm


I honestly think trump will be the next president and he will destroy anything that challenges him or his ego..and that includes Vivek.

a reply to: TzarChasm

He should come run against DeSantis....

a reply to: TzarChasm

He is an excellent candidate, and I do believe he is the most suitable person to be running the USA, despite his youth which many will see as a barrier to success. His constitutionalist foundation is exceptional, and you are correct, he delivers on the crucial issues, has abundant energy & is entirely self-driven. May God grant him success!

a reply to: TzarChasm

I've heard that Trump may have picked him for VP, what are your thoughts on that?

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: TzarChasm

I've heard that Trump may have picked him for VP, what are your thoughts on that?

There are Still Serious Questions about his " True " Character . His Past is a Barometer , and it Still Haunts him with his Present Change of Tune IMO .

No. In 2016 Pence was supposed to run against HRC and lose. This was the plan. If you have not read some books leading up to the 2016 election.

The deal was, take Pence and the GOP fully backs you. He made the business deal but as we all know he did not do what they wanted. Now the GOP RINOs are out in full force.

Vivek is not ready for POTUS or VP. He would be a great governor or Congress seat. If it was me I would be aligning with Trump to bring about the new Constitutional Republican Party. A lot of power and votes. He gained votes in 2020. That in itself is an accomplishment.

So we shall see. My biggest worry is that a certain person is not going to around to be on the ballot in 2024.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: pianopraze

A gubernatorial office might be his best bet following the 2024 campaign. People want to sample his leadership without betting the whole country on him, and he needs to get out from under the MAGA steam roller if he wants to get behind the wheel and steer it in the right direction. Anchoring his political career and demonstrating his methods are applicable and effective in real world administrative environment will go a long, long way toward guaranteeing 2028 or even 2030 if he has to grind that long to satisfy the skeptics.

The problem is 6 years from now, what will be left of our nation. Does he have the luxury of proper buildup and launch? He is impatient and for good reason.

originally posted by: lilzazz


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So you Actually Agree with me for Once here on ATS about Vivek ? Not his Time in 2024 , but if he " Stays " the Present Course he could be Considered a Playa in Days to Come ...........

I don't know what "playa" means in this context. Perhaps you would be kind enough to elaborate.

I don't know yet if we agree but we are engaged in civil dialogue which is the next best thing.

originally posted by: lilzazz
a reply to: TzarChasm


I honestly think trump will be the next president and he will destroy anything that challenges him or his ego..and that includes Vivek.

Thanks for clarifying zazz. And I hope you're wrong, they could be a formidable partnership if they set aside all hypothetical enmity and identify common goals between them. There's no reason for bad blood and every reason to combine resources.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: TzarChasm

He should come run against DeSantis....

I believe he's a resident of ohio. I might be wrong.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: TzarChasm

I've heard that Trump may have picked him for VP, what are your thoughts on that?

I've heard there's a VP but not who it is. This question has been posed to ramaswamy several times and each time he gives the same answer. It's not a definite "no" but he is uncertain how readily trump collaborates with the team rather than asserting dominance as captain. Vivek is much too opinionated for that dynamic.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: TzarChasm

He is an excellent candidate, and I do believe he is the most suitable person to be running the USA, despite his youth which many will see as a barrier to success. His constitutionalist foundation is exceptional, and you are correct, he delivers on the crucial issues, has abundant energy & is entirely self-driven. May God grant him success!

Youth is only considered a barrier to success because decrepit politicians said so. They pretend youth is a detriment but don't talk about how young pioneers have built our country. They can't compete honestly so they disparage the fresh blood trying to revive our national identity and use their ill gotten means to leverage the next generation into behaving.

Vivek has covered this topic a few times.

a reply to: TzarChasm

" I don't know what "playa" means in this context. Perhaps you would be kind enough to elaborate."



playa - A Considered Serious Candidate Involved in Political Discourse with the Backing of Factions of the Republican Party in the Not to Distant Future .

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: TzarChasm

" I don't know what "playa" means in this context. Perhaps you would be kind enough to elaborate."



playa - A Considered Serious Candidate Involved in Political Discourse with the Backing of Factions of the Republican Party in the Not to Distant Future .

The only way he can "lose" is if he gives up, and if the DNC aren't giving up I suspect he won't either.

Let trump give it his absolute best and if he falls short, vivek will gladly finish what he started. That 1776 vibe can't be extinguished unless the America First movement stops lighting fires (metaphorically and not like BLM/Antifa)

In that sense, he's not just a playa but a winna.

He is a good speaker, has a certain level of charisma, has what I think are some good takes on a number of our issues as a nation.

That said he has not inspired trust, I do think he is running for the vp spot, and would probably be a good fit if his appreciation for trump is genuine.

Dont need another vp that tries to be subtle while undermining potus.

a reply to: Irishhaf

How do you recommend he should acquire the trust the American population? What gesture would inspire voters to take a chance on him?

a reply to: TzarChasm

99% likely hood I vote 3rd party no matter what. (I try very hard to not be part of voting for the republicans/democrats and hoping for a different outcome)

BUT its a situation of there is no right answer for him all he can try to be is as authentic as possible and hope it speaks to enough people.

Trying to do something has a high chance of sparking a backlash for appearing fake.