Title Without the Duties

a reply to: network dude

I already posted it, but again just for you...

A sanctuary city/county/state refuses to do the feds job for them, use their facilities and employees, at their expense. If an illegal immigrant is in state prison and is ready to leave because they've served their time, and the feds fail to come and get him, the state refuses to pay to continue to feed, house and take care of their medical needs without compensation.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

I already posted it, but again just for you...

A sanctuary city/county/state refuses to do the feds job for them, use their facilities and employees, at their expense. If an illegal immigrant is in state prison and is ready to leave because they've served their time, and the feds fail to come and get him, the state refuses to pay to continue to feed, house and take care of their medical needs without compensation.

Oh, I thought it was:

sanctuary city
noun
(in North America) a city whose municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.
"mayors in those cities reaffirmed their status as sanctuary cities"

And in that light, when asked where they want to go, they seem to overwhelmingly ask to go to sanctuary cities. I wonder why that is.

a reply to: network dude

municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.

What law would that be? Please be specific to the law that required state and local municipalities to use their resources to fulfill federal duties. Please provide an example of how sanctuary localities are breaking federal law.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: PorkChop96

Sweetie, that's not a definition of a sanctuary city, That's a rant from Gov Abbott.

The Sanctuary City resistance movement came about during the Obama Administration, when he put out an EO requiring state and local agencies to pick up the slack that the feds had left behind, giving state and local facilities more finanancial responsibilities with no financial relief. Trump doubled down on the ideology.

But while Boulder became the latest major city to concretize its sanctuary policy in response to Trump, the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office first adopted the stance in 2014. That year, a federal court ruled that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement requests for local police to hold unauthorized immigrants on the agency’s behalf weren’t mandatory, despite the Barack Obama administration’s insistence to the contrary. Thus, the sanctuary city movement gained steam largely as a rebellion against what many liberal jurisdictions viewed as intrusive immigration enforcement efforts under Obama.

www.huffpost.com...

The phrase sanctuary city is not a legal term, but one developed over time and more recently reflecting a response to ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) policies and actions. In general, a sanctuary city is a community with a policy, written or unwritten, that discourages local law enforcement from reporting the immigration status of individuals unless it involves investigation of a serious crime. These sanctuary communities go beyond cities, though. One can find entire counties and states declaring sanctuary status.

These communities typically do not honor requests by ICE to detain undocumented immigrants whom local agents apprehend for misdemeanor crimes or investigations. Many in sanctuary cities also refuse to deputize their local officers as federal agents, a necessary technicality if those local officers carry out the duties of ICE agents. There is no specific federal law against sanctuary city policies.

www.lirs.org...

If the Feds want state, county and city officials and facilities to accommodate their needs and duties, then they need legislation to implement federal duties to non-federal state and county facilities and employees and pay for it. If an inmate, who is an illegal, for example, serves their time for the crime they were convicted of, and it's time for them to be released, it isn't the duty of the state or county to keep that prisoner in jail, fed, clothed and medicated, until the feds get their act together to come and get the guy.

Texas get $1.6 billion from the feds to handle immigration programs in the states. New York City only get $140 million. Mayor Adams is asking for $3 billion now, in light of everything, including Abbott's plan to bus immigrants to New York City.

The key to sanctuary cities participating in federal immigration duties is MONEY.

Big problem on your take on NYC. The Biden administration was shipping migrants there before Abbot even started! Or did you forget those late night flights? On top of all that let's discuss the hypocrisy of Adams complaining about the illegals being bussed to NYC but he himself is trying to ship them off to other counties! Or how his buddy in New Jersey was aiding the illegals get to NYC! The Biden administration has turned the immigration issue into more of a mess than ever. By basically letting every border hopper claim asylum they have made a mockery of the entire immigration system! And they continue to muddy the issue by claiming simultaneously they are migrant and asylum seekers, it's one or the other not both!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.

What law would that be? Please be specific to the law that required state and local municipalities to use their resources to fulfill federal duties. Please provide an example of how sanctuary localities are breaking federal law.

LOL, you are arguing with the #ing dictionary. You are an amazing person.


linky

a reply to: hangedman13

since Fox reported on that, it didn't really happen. I think that's how it works.

In 2021, President Biden invited hundreds of thousands of migrants to begin flooding sanctuary cities, but didn't have any plans to fund their upkeep.

He just wanted to get back at Trump, like a little mean kid would do, without thinking of the ramifications.

I showed Trump!: immigrationimpact.com...

It certainly has backfired beautifully!

a reply to: hangedman13

The Biden administration was shipping migrants there before Abbot even started!

They have to go somewhere. After asylees are processed and awaiting judication, the federal government may provide them with housing, etc. The Feds have contracts, like how Texas gets $1.6 Billion for immigrant services. New York was getting $140 Million for immigrant services.

Where some (sanctuary) states are forcing the feds to do their job, by not letting them steal the state's assets, Texas is taking over and doing the feds job and shipping immigrants out of Texas, sometimes deporting them, before the feds even know they're there!

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.

What law would that be? Please be specific to the law that required state and local municipalities to use their resources to fulfill federal duties. Please provide an example of how sanctuary localities are breaking federal law.

LOL, you are arguing with the #ing dictionary. You are an amazing person.


linky

HAHA Nice!

You're the one who first used the word "municipalities" though. I used the word "facilities".

Look, I've been here explaining this Sanctuary City topic since Obama was in office. I'm not learning this as I go. But I'm glad that you're learning the building blocks of how state and local officials reacted to Obama's authoritarian take on immigration, by asserting Sanctuary status.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: hangedman13

The Biden administration was shipping migrants there before Abbot even started!

They have to go somewhere. After asylees are processed and awaiting judication, the federal government may provide them with housing, etc. The Feds have contracts, like how Texas gets $1.6 Billion for immigrant services. New York was getting $140 Million for immigrant services.

Where some (sanctuary) states are forcing the feds to do their job, by not letting them steal the state's assets, Texas is taking over and doing the feds job and shipping immigrants out of Texas, sometimes deporting them, before the feds even know they're there!

And how would Abbot being doing that if there were not more migrants than border patrol can handle? By Washington ignoring the problem at the border for three years! Notice how now Adam's legal issues have slipped by the wayside? Because it was message recieved! Adam's ditched a meeting with the Potus and ran back home due to it. He was heading to DC to try and get more financial aid but he left because of legal trouble in his administration! Such a serious issue he was going to deal with along with two other mayor's but he ignored his duty and flew back to NY. Shows how serious the whole thing is.
Oh and they are all asylum seekers? From all over the world? That too shows how idiotic the whole thing is.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

And why do illegal immigrants deserve to have our tax dollars spend on them?

a reply to: RickyD

The money is for immigration. Illegal immigrants are a subset of immigrants.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

No they aren't...they are foreign invaders...criminals without citizenship. They are the tax burden of the country they have citizenship in. I pay taxes to help the greater good of our citizens not some others countries...and damn sure not criminals from other countries.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

municipal laws tend to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation or prosecution, despite federal immigration law.

What law would that be? Please be specific to the law that required state and local municipalities to use their resources to fulfill federal duties. Please provide an example of how sanctuary localities are breaking federal law.

LOL, you are arguing with the #ing dictionary. You are an amazing person.


linky

HAHA Nice!

You're the one who first used the word "municipalities" though. I used the word "facilities".

Look, I've been here explaining this Sanctuary City topic since Obama was in office. I'm not learning this as I go. But I'm glad that you're learning the building blocks of how state and local officials reacted to Obama's authoritarian take on immigration, by asserting Sanctuary status.

Oh Sookie, you do make me smile.

Clink on the linky. See if I am the guy who controls what Google posts as a dictionary definition. Maybe I am.

a reply to: network dude

I think it's cute that you think I went to your link before you did, because it echoed what I've been saying all the time! LOL

What I've posted are MY words, explaining what I already knew. Your link just backs that up. And that makes me smile!

a reply to: Sookiechacha

If I was a meme guy, I'd be throwing that one with the mohawk dude doing the slow clap. You are almost winning at an argument against yourself. Please, don't ever change.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: PorkChop96

What are the duties of a sanctuary city?
Also, would you please define what you think a sanctuary city actually is?

Found this ....not sure it's what you looking for

Immigration Law: Sanctuary Cities - LINK

There’s no official legal definition for sanctuary city and what it means varies significantly from place to place. Generally speaking, local law enforcement in sanctuary cities or counties don’t ask or report the immigration status of people they come into contact with. A sanctuary jurisdiction typically refuses requests from federal immigration authorities to detain undocumented immigrants apprehended for low-level offenses. A sanctuary city would also refuse to have its local law enforcement "deputized" as federal immigration agents

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