Kentucky county clerk to pay the same-sex couple she illegally denied a marriage license to

a reply to: grey580

No one has a right to loot, commit arson, assault cops, damage property.

a reply to: frogs453

Now, the protesters who were arrested this summer are speaking out, many wondering why they were picked up in the first place. The details of those arrests are not available in most cities. In Minneapolis, the city where Floyd was killed, local police arrested 570 people in the ensuing protests — nearly 90 percent of them from the metro area, with the vast majority being charged with curfew violations. Now, according to city and county prosecutors, all but 44 cases have been dropped.

You just don't hear about it because no one on the left is calling them "political prisoners" screeching about their "abuse" claiming they were set up by "feds", creating GoFundMe accounts, or having politicians visit them in jail. And having a former President promote a protestors "choir".

I am no fan of trump. But maybe you don't hear about it because nothing came of it. Being arrested is one thing, tried and convicted is another. If you will notice in the top quote, from your source. "The details of those arrests are not available in most cities" Imagine that. Also imagine this "nearly 90 percent of them from the metro area, with the vast majority being charged with curfew violations. Now, according to city and county prosecutors, all but 44 cases have been dropped."

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: FlyersFan

Over 300 arrested on Federal charges.
DOJ

You just don't hear about it because no one on the left is calling them "political prisoners" screeching about their "abuse" claiming they were set up by "feds", creating GoFundMe accounts, or having politicians visit them in jail. And having a former President promote a protestors "choir".

I would ask you... Are any still in jail without bond, trial, or due process? Perhaps there is a difference.

a reply to: Unknownparadox

There are quite a few details about others arrested.

Now as of the 570 arrested and all but 44 charges dropped. Do you believe you should be charged, get probation and or jail time for a curfew violation? That's what those charges were. We're not talking any other crime, violence or entering a restricted building, parading on restricted grounds, attacking the police or impeding a government process. We are talking walking on the street, perhaps to your car after curfew.

And 526 out of thousands??

You certainly aren't hearing about it because again, no one considers them "political prisoners", has gofundme's, has congress people doing press conferences outside of the jail, and no President or former President promoting them.

a reply to: frogs453

That's because the DA failed to convict those with serious crimes.

Cops can arrest anyone for attempted murder, but the DA has to file charges in a court of law.

a reply to: frogs453

You certainly aren't hearing about it because again, no one considers them "political prisoners", has gofundme's, has congress people doing press conferences outside of the jail, and no President or former President promoting them.

You're stuck on this political prisoner crap. The problem is, selective perception. there was a whole lot more going on than any curfew violation during those protest/riots. Now of the serious charges, no information is available. Now that's odd.

It's really simple very few things are withheld from the public, when someone is arrested and charged. I do believe there is a reason for that. Now if you want to talk political prisoner. If any legitimate protester had been charged with a serious crime and convicted of it. It would have made at least the left wing news. As the head line would have probably read. Protester for equal rights is shafted by the racist system, where only blacks are beaten and killed by the police. You know why whites that get beaten and or killed by the police, doesn't make headline news? Because it doesn't get as many clicks. As repressed people fighting for equal rights do.

a reply to: frogs453

It has to do with the color of your skin.

If you are a Trump supporter, and white, and protest you can be convicted and sentenced to years in prison and not have even attended the rally.

If you are black or a POC you can do what you want, when you want and scream racism. 98% of the time the DA drops charges. Don't believe me?

Steven Hutcherson. Was out on no no bail for attacking a woman in November.

Link

He shouted I want all the white people dead. He was released the next day no bail.

He stabbed two people in Grand Central Station.

There is a problem in this country in the courts and it is not the oppression of the POCs.

a reply to: matafuchs


That's why all the riots, lootings, arson, murders took place in leftist cities.

They knew they would get away with it.

Huh? I linked to the DOJ website, but here are a few. Found very easily.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that Anthony Smith pleaded guilty Tuesday to a federal charge of obstructing law enforcement during a civil disorder.Another defendant, Khalif Miller, was sentenced in April to 61 months in prison and Carlos Matchett to 46 months. Two other defendants who pleaded guilty to setting fire to cars during the demonstration were sentenced to shorter terms: Ayoub Tabri to 364 days and Lore-Elisabeth Blumenthal to 2½ years.

AP News

The ringleader of a group who admitted to firebombing police cars during protests in 2020 was sentenced Thursday to serve five and a half years in federal prison for his actions, while three of his co-defendants were sentenced to 18 months each.

Arkansas Online

Fourth Defendant Pleads Guilty To Damaging U.S. Courthouse During May 2020 Protest In Las Vegas

DOJ

I mean those are just a few, but that was only a minute of a Google search.


Half the people here have no idea what's going on in most of the J6 court cases unless I post info and links as a rebuttal to some nonsense claimed here. You do know about the ones the favorite Maga congress people, the RW pundits and the former President promote though. Am I wrong about that?

And yes, the "law and order" " back the blue" ," just comply" spewing people who flipped the script, planned a trip with weapons such as guns, ax handles, tasers, knives, sharpened flag poles, hammers, etc and attacked police officers, pushed through a police line, and broke windows and doors to first breach the Capitol Building, intent on interrupting the electoral count, or as some to "drag out Nancy " and it was Guy Reffitt who had a gun, "Hang Pence", etc is going to definitely be talked about on the news. Often. Not to mention those convicted of Seditious Conspiracy against the government.

a reply to: frogs453

Google "how many people were arrested and convicted of arson, looting, murder" in Portland, Seattle, Baltimore, New York. . . .

originally posted by: Creaky
a reply to: liberalskeptic

That’s the problem with mixing Christianity and politics
Interesting that Jesus never got mixed up with politics but, His followers don’t Have An issue
Also interesting that Jesus never judged the non religious, just those who claimed the faith He represented
Politics is not part of Christianity

BS. Jesus was political. Go back and read.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I never said that they did. I totally agree with you. If you commit any one of those crimes you need to be prosecuted.

I am very happy that, the police, did in fact go after rioters. And some of them go sentenced.

This whole nonsense that, rioters got a free pass, is utter hogwash.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Why do I need to do that when I provided examples of some just above in a post.

If you would like to share, you are free to do so.

The most recent discussion was why does the news not report it. I provided links that it is reported. I supplied my reasoning as to why you hear about these select few all the time. Because it is promoted as a bad thing that people are in prison for J6 by people with huge followings and favorite news pundits.

Not sure why everyone wants things fed by hand to them. I actively search for information I want to know. If there are things you would like me to know, I'll happily read the links.

a reply to: frogs453

OMG

4 people were convicted?

lol

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: liberalskeptic

You are right, though perhaps she can get something out of the law that allows muslim checkout workers not to touch a bottle of alcohol or pork products?

Seems to be the same thing there, religion getting in the way of doing your job.

I definitely wouldn't support that law either for the same reason! If you don't like the duties, don't take the job.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: DBCowboy

I actively search for information I want to know. If there are things you would like me to know, I'll happily read the links.

That's because you care what the facts and truth are.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: liberalskeptic

Good.

Can we go after democrats now who refuse to prosecute crimes and criminals, can we go after the current administration for failing to secure our borders?

If we're going to punish government officials for not doing their damned job, then lets make it fair.

No one is above the law, amirite?

I agree but with a caveat. Most high level public officials and prosecutors have some discretion over how they enforce the law. A county clerk does not. And she was directly refusing to obey a court order. And democrat, border patrol agent, etc. who disobeys a court order should be prosecuted. But establishing a policy that you don't like is not always a violation of the law. The proper process is to challenge the policy in court.

Show me an example of an official actually refusing to obey a court order. I'm sure there are many examples out there and I would probably agree with you that they should not be allowed to get away with it, regardless of their policial or religious persuasion.

originally posted by: matafuchs
This is as stupid as the baker issue. Seriously. Why did they not just use another clerk? She also starting denying ALL, not just gay submissions. Can those people sue also or are they out of luck CIS folk? Seems they did also....

In most counties there is only one clerk. There might be deputy clerks but I don't know how it works in Rowan County. But in any case, none of the clerks has the authority to decide who they issue a license to. They serve a ministerial role meaning their sole power is to verify that the couple had checked all the boxes to comply with the law. (And there is an implication here that they must know the current law. In most cases they hire legal counsel to protect themselves.) If this woman refused licenses to all couples, they should sue her too!

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider

originally posted by: Creaky
a reply to: liberalskeptic

That’s the problem with mixing Christianity and politics
Interesting that Jesus never got mixed up with politics but, His followers don’t Have An issue
Also interesting that Jesus never judged the non religious, just those who claimed the faith He represented
Politics is not part of Christianity

BS. Jesus was political. Go back and read.

Interested, where and when?

a reply to: DBCowboy

That's cute. I noted I was providing a few examples that cases had been reported on. Want me to just note 3 of the J6 cases and then claim, "see only 3". I mean this kind of post works to cater to a certain segment of ATS and you'll get some stars, but really it's kind of silly.