South Africa files Genocide case against Israel at ICJ

originally posted by:WeMustCare[/post]
Does South Africa provide anything meaningful to the world?

As wmd's,false flag wars and drag-queens ? *rolls eyes*
How about, you just do you.

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originally posted by: orbhunter
a reply to: gortex
Hehe now there's a conspiracy Gortex, who knows and Keir's wife attends synagogue with him and his kids are being raised within the faith, maybe she's a Mossad plant

Kier attends synagogue with his wife and kids because she is Jewish , if you're looking for a conspiracy how about Starmer's leadership campaign being funded by businessman and Israel lobbyist Trevor Chinn.

Chinn is a long-time supporter of Labour Friends of Israel. Up to 2016, he donated to the office or campaigns of a number of Labour Party politicians, including MPs Tony Blair, Ruth Smeeth, Liz Kendall, Tom Watson and Dan Jarvis. Since 2016, he has additionally financially supported the MPs Ivan Lewis, Owen Smith, Lisa Nandy, Tristram Hunt, Jack Dromey, Ian Austin, Rachel Reeves, Liam Byrne and Wes Streeting.[non-primary source needed]In February 2020, he donated £50,000 to support the Labour party leadership election campaign of Keir Starmer.
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Looks to me like he's bought all the influence he needs.

Always the messenger and rarely the message.

"Who does or did it more?"

People are really lost in their own realities.

How about this, these countries/continents are wrong and no better than each other:

NORTH AMERICA
ISRAEL
PALESTINE
RUSSIA
UK
CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA
CANADA
AFRICA
UKRAINE
MIDDLE EAST
CHINA
JAPAN
AUSTRALIA
NEW ZEALAND
NORTH AND SOUTH KOREA

No one is any better than anyone else as all players are "in on it" in some form or fashion. Everyone on my short list above has their fkn boot in your neck and people want to weigh and debate who's right and wrong???

Who the # cares!!!

We argue while they continually do it....well, Bravo humanity is all I can say.🙄

a reply to: gortex

Put out by Al Jazeera .... owned and operated by the government of Qatar ... which blames Israel for the Oct 7 attacks and which hides and protects the Hamas leadership, all who are worth billions of W$$$.

South Africa ... which currently has a genocide of white people going on ... comes down on Israel for defending itself and falsely accuses it of genocide while at the same time South Africa ignores the fact that the "Palestinians" and Hamas actually really ARE calling for genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel, and the 'Palestinians' and Hamas are engaging in terrorism to make that happen.

South Africa is obviously f'd up. Screw 'em.

a reply to: Lazy88

Funny you’re not concerned at all for the root of the problem in that Hamas uses human shields.

How do you reconcile that narrative with that fact that 70% of homes on Gaza have been destroyed and 90% of the population has been displaced?

Israel didn't just attack Gaza. They retaliated after THEY were attacked by HAMAS. That is a fact and it is undisputed. Ignoring it won't change it.

a reply to: network dude

That appears to be 100% correct. But and a big but at that is. You could retaliate against someone in a crowd that punches you once. By punching them 3 or 4 times. You could also retaliate against someone that punches you once in a crowd, with a WMD. There is retaliation and there is Razing.

The IDF has now said they expect the war to last all of 2024.

originally posted by: Unknownparadox

Israel didn't just attack Gaza. They retaliated after THEY were attacked by HAMAS. That is a fact and it is undisputed. Ignoring it won't change it.

a reply to: network dude

That appears to be 100% correct. But and a big but at that is. You could retaliate against someone in a crowd that punches you once. By punching them 3 or 4 times. You could also retaliate against someone that punches you once in a crowd, with a WMD. There is retaliation and there is Razing.

The IDF has now said they expect the war to last all of 2024.

What do you do when the person in the crowd punches you continuously for years and years and years. You keep punching them back ones every onece and a while? Or do you eventually decide to end it?

a reply to: Dandandat3
I'm not sure what you mean by end it. Neither side hands are clean. Both do things to provoke the other. You will never rid the world of terrorism, even if did do some kind of war crime.

Donald Rumsfeld during the last Iraq war, was rumored to have said. Are we killing them faster than we are making them. I think the answer to that question is absolute not.

So far I'm going to say this about the ANC government in SA ... you know if you live in a glass house, you really shouldn't be throwing rocks.

originally posted by: Unknownparadox
a reply to: Dandandat3
I'm not sure what you mean by end it. Neither side hands are clean. Both do things to provoke the other. You will never rid the world of terrorism, even if did do some kind of war crime.

Donald Rumsfeld during the last Iraq war, was rumored to have said. Are we killing them faster than we are making them. I think the answer to that question is absolute not.

If you, Unknownparadox, do when you are repeatedly punched over a long period of time .... Do you seek to only be proportional in your response forever... or do you eventually escalate your response beyond professional? Most humans will eventually choose the latter.

Of course both sides are doing things to provoke the other. What difference does that make to the analogy?

South Africa's case against Israel will be heard by the International Court of Justice tomorrow , it will last 2 days with a judgement expected fairly quickly , Pakistan along with The Maldives and Namibia have added their names to the countries supporting South Africa's case.

originally posted by: gortex
South Africa's case against Israel will be heard by the International Court of Justice tomorrow , it will last 2 days with a judgement expected fairly quickly , Pakistan along with The Maldives and Namibia have added their names to the countries supporting South Africa's case.

Think there will be actual context and evidence.

Or just antisemitism?

Wonder if they will bring up the 70 killed in a convey leveling Gaza by Palestinian terrorists with IED’s on Salah al-Din Road Oct 13?

These South African's are as racist as they come. Turn on Israel accusing them of genocide while all the while they turn a blind eye to the murder of thousands and thousands of native SA'n Boers

The blax must have forgotten who helped start financially back the ANC and who were the liberals in parliament who helped bring down the previous regime. Joe Slovo would turn in his grave.

Truth be told they are a bunch of racist anti semitic scum. Check this out, stoopid thick as pig sh*t South African cricket dimisses under 19 national captain, BECAUSE HE IS JEWISH ...........................

"'Have they sacked him because he's Jewish?': Piers Morgan leads anger at South Africa 'relieving' their captain of his duties for U19 Cricket World Cup because of 'security concerns' after he praised Israel at Jewish awards" www.dailymail.co.uk...

originally posted by: CaptainHalf
So far I'm going to say this about the ANC government in SA ... you know if you live in a glass house, you really shouldn't be throwing rocks.

Adv Tembeka Ngcukaitobi defending Julius Malema in Parliament. Powers & Privileges Committee.

Yes, this guy at The Hague throwing stones in his glass home.

The intent to destroy Gaza has been nurtured at the highest level of state," Tembeka Ngcukaitobi, advocate of the High Court of South Africa, told the court. He said Israel's political and military leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, were among "the genocidal inciters".

This is the scum he was defending in the video.

Malema has been embroiled in a variety of legal issues throughout his political career: he has been convicted of hate speech twice, once in March 2010 for demeaning comments about Zuma's rape accuser, and again in September 2011 for singing "Dubul' ibhunu" ("Shoot the Boer"). In 2012, Malema was charged with fraud, money laundering and racketeering.

P.O.S - both of them.

Genocidal South Africa had meetings with Hamas after Oct 7 terrorist attack.

Yeah ... the plot thickens.

South African leaders had 'cosy' meetings with Hamas after deadly October 7 terrorist attack

South African leaders met Hamas militants on official visits to their country after the deadly October 7 terrorist attack on Israel, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

A Hamas delegation visited South Africa in December, at a time when even Arab countries were distancing themselves from the terrorist group, which killed nearly 1,200 Israelis and kidnapped about 250 during the atrocity.

Israeli sources said the visit by Hamas leaders shows the 'cosy' relationship South Africa has had with the group over the years, which the sources say helps to explain why the ANC-led government decided to accuse Israel of genocide at the International Court of Justice last week. The Israeli government has rejected the claim, and has instead accused South Africa of becoming the 'legal arm of Hamas'.

Israeli minister Amichai Chikli has claimed that among the sitting South African delegation at the ICJ hearings at the Hague was Shawan Jabarin, a 'peace activist' accused of having ties with the terrorist group, the Popular Front For The Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).

a reply to: FlyersFan

A Hamas delegation visited South Africa in December, at a time when even Arab countries were distancing themselves from the terrorist group, which killed nearly 1,200 Israelis and kidnapped about 250 during the atrocity.

And the reason for their visit in early December ?

Senior Hamas officials joined Nelson Mandela's family as tributes to South Africa's first black president on the 10th anniversary of his death in the capital Pretoria on Tuesday, AFP journalists noted.

South Africa, a fervent supporter of the Palestinian cause, is one of the countries most critical of the massive and deadly Israeli bombardment of the Gaza Strip, in retaliation for the bloody attacks carried out by Hamas in Israel on 7 October.

Nelson Mandela, who advocated "freedom for the Palestinians", died in 2013 at the age of 95. Leaders from around the world, including the President of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas, were present at his funeral, but Israeli leaders did not attend.

On Tuesday, the family of the anti-apartheid hero laid a wreath in front of the statue of him in front of government headquarters in Pretoria.

Basem Naim, former Health Minister for Hamas in Gaza, and Khaled Qaddoumi, representative of the Islamist movement in Iran, were present. In the preceding days, they had also taken part in a conference on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict organised by Nelson Mandela's grandson, Mandla Mandela, in Johannesburg.
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originally posted by: gortex
And the reason for their visit in early December ?

Yeah right. Outward appearances. It's HAMAS. They are terrorists. And immediately after the meeting, genocidal South Africa tries to bring charges against Israel. Of course more than just supposedly honoring Nelson Mandela was going on.

International Court of Justice takes Israel’s side against South Africa

With so many international organizations being antisemitic these days, it’s a little surprising when one actually takes the side of Israel.

But that’s essentially what happened today when the International Court of Justice refused to order Israel to halt its war in Gaza to exterminate Hamas because South Africa could not make its case. Not that it matters because the ICJ doesn’t have jurisdiction over the state of Israel.

But it’s nonetheless a victory for Israel.

ICJ sides with Israel. Just asks Israel not to genocide the people of Gaza, but doesn't say 'stop the war'. Even if the ICJ had 'ordered' Israel to stop it's war against Hamas, Israel would have been under no obligation to listen to it.

a reply to: gortex

I watched this "ruling" and is was so pathetic...

ICJ
"Is it POSSIBLE there is a genocide? Yes . So we find that Israel should really not genocide anyone one."

Israel
"Thats fine , we wernt genociding anyone anyways"


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