Being Banned From A States Ballot

originally posted by: RazorV66
Take a look at this Tweet from Democrat congressman Jared Golden of Maine.

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He voted to impeach Trump but even he is calling out the deranged SOS.

We could post a dozen or so similar statements from other Ds on the Colorado BS.

Would have zero effect even though they love to use the couple Rs on the J6 committee and the Rs who brought the suits as some sort of staple.

originally posted by: SharpyMoyron

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: elevatedone

Why are they doing this if Biden won honestly with more than 7 million votes?

Cuz it has nothing to do with winning by a landslide. He may again.

Has to do with criminally trying to take over a government. Staging a coup. Getting cops killed. Democracy almost ended.

Democracy or dictatorship. That what its about.

List all the cops that were KILLED that day.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
Where in the 14th Amendment does it say a conviction is required?

Then anyone can accuse anyone else of insurrection and block them from holding office. DUE PROCESS IS COMMON SENSE.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No. Whoever is in charge of determining whether or not someone is eligible to be on a ballot is he only person that makes that decision. And then when they've made their decision deeming someone ineligible to appear on the ballot, the potential candidate can appeal that decision through the court system.

You know, due process.

a reply to: BrassmonkeyUSA

Congress has already ruled on this matter. Don't forget that during Trump's second impeachment the reason the Senate gave for not convicting him is because of the fact that Trump was no longer President it should be up to the states to decide.

I saw a video on this the other day and you're all wrong. The US constitution states that any US citizen can stand and nobody has any rights to stop them. You're all quoting statutes and laws but all of them (including the supreme court) are made by and controlled by government, so therefore whichever party is in power they can change a law to ban just who the want. It is illegal. It's against the basic constitution. All and every candidate MUST be voted on by the people not any statute/law.

a reply to: crayzeed

The Constitution was literally written with a clause that limits who can be President. Last time I checked, the 14th Amendment is also part of the Constitution.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

Not participating in an insurrection is a requirement to be President.

What insurrection? I'll just come out and say that you robbed a bank and so now you are a felon and cannot run for office, so sorry to do that to you.

a reply to: Xtrozero

What state are you the Secretary of State for?

originally posted by: Threadbarer

The Constitution was literally written with a clause that limits who can be President. Last time I checked, the 14th Amendment is also part of the Constitution.

shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

Has even a single person been charged, much less convicted for insurrection or anything close to that?

originally posted by: Threadbarer

What state are you the Secretary of State for?

Where is her legal authority other than just mouthing the words? In either case, there is no substance other than her just saying. So, would you agree if the SC reverses it then she should be removed from office for abuse of power? People who work for the government hold substantial authority due to their position, but this authority is not unlimited.

2021 US Code
Title 42 - The Public Health and Welfare
Chapter 21 - Civil Rights
Subchapter I - Generally
Sec. 1983 - Civil action for deprivation of rights

a reply to: Xtrozero

By the same standards used by the Maine sos...it could be argued that government officials personally posting bail and paying for the defense of BLM/ANTIFA 'mostly peaceful' arsonists and rioters...is ALSO encouraging felonies.

for those of you who are arguing FOR the removal of a leading candidate for president from a state ballot, I really want to hear from you on where this ends? Where does the BAMN tactics stop? When Trump is no longer alive? He's old, he's going to die in 20 years or less. What then? Does everything just go back to normal and those who were or at least feel as of they were wronged by this forget?

Does the left who craves power and more power stop that, and just become satisfied to succumb to the will of the people again?

I'm sure the legal arguments can be made, and any facts you wish to stretch can be mailable, but for the human aspect of this, the integrity and fairness aspect, will that just go back to pre-clown world times?

a reply to: elevatedone

it's nice to see you post rather than the only time I see your name being in the administrative actions I so richly deserve.

a reply to: elevatedone

Except when accused w evidence of attempting a coup, an overthrow, an interruption of government....by government itself....

Our Constitution holds firm for every American, guaranteeing honors and rights, and assuring no 1 American is ever treated differently no matter who.

The Constitution works my friends. A bit ruffled these days...but strong never the less.

a reply to: DBCowboy

That whole, "Innocent until proven guilty" in the Bill of Rights was in my way.

Gee wizz! I never seen or read that in the Bill of Rights! Can you link it please?

a reply to: network dude

Can the sos of red states now unilaterally also decide to keep Joe Biden off their state ballot because THEY have personally concluded that Joe was involved in taking foreign money through Hunter's shell companies...even though Joe has yet to be charged or convicted of the crimes?

a reply to: crayzeed

He's wrong because you saw a video? Disney cartoons are not real: your 1st mistake....somethings real because you watched a video?

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: DBCowboy

Where in the 14th Amendment does it say a conviction is required?

Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Also the fifth amendment:

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Nobody is depriving Donald Trump of "life, liberty, or property", in his constitutional disqualification to hold office again.

Also, due process has not been denied Trump. None of these cases, asking to remove Trump from the ballot are criminal cases. However, his criminal cases are winding through the courts right now. Right now, the courts are deciding whether or not Trump's defense of absolute immunity holds water, something that SCOTUS will ultimately have to decide.

a reply to: Xtrozero

The US Constitution gives power over elections to the states. Maine's Constitution places authority over their elections in the hands of the Secretary of State.

So, would you agree if the SC reverses it then she should be removed from office for abuse of power?

Should Trump be barred from office for the numerous times his EO's were struck down by SCOTUS?