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IDF sniper kills 2 women inside Gaza church, according to Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem

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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33

Straw man.. Side stepping again eh.. I am fire dont try that with me..


question remains..


is that an invitation for me to and invade your house. Make you live in the garbage and restrict your intake of goods. services and information.. Say anything and will toss a white phosphorus grenade your way?



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:12 AM
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a reply to: purplemer


Straw man.. Side stepping again eh.. I am fire dont try that with me..


question remains..

Is that an invitation for me to and invade your house. Make you live in the garbage and restrict your intake of goods. services and information..


No, that's not how it works. I don't jump through demanded rhetorical hoops on this. And I don't answer bad rhetorical points, even from "fire".

But okay... I guess I will.

If my building elected a management company that had an expressed mission of destroying the building across the street (your building) and starting firing rockets at it from our balconies. And then organized an assault force that went through the first and second floors indiscriminately killing and kidnapping its residents.

Yes, then I would say your building can retaliate how it wants. And do all those things.
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33




Then I would say your building can retaliate how it wants. And do all those things.



Thank you.. not what i was expecting though.I did not think you would support the occupied people of Palatines ability to defend themselves .

UN says the same things. Under international law they have the right to defense..



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

Oct 7th was not a defensive act.

Fail.

/thread



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

Hey. All entitled to opinions..

Here's the very condensed version of it for me:

• Allies took Palestine from Caliphate
• Britain assumed responsibility
• Upheld promise to create an Israeli State
• Let Jews move there starting in 1917
• Muslims never liked them.
• More Jews 'returned HOME'

* skip to 1947 *

• British mandate expires. UN given authority. UN screwed Israel. But none the less suggested a partition.
• Israel immediately declares independence.
• 5 Arab countries immediately attack Israel for doing so.
• Israel has to fight for the land the UN gave them and accomplishes it in 1948

* Skip to 1967 *

• Israel gets sick of every Arab countries around them impeding them and opposing them, or banning Suez Canal use. Generally being hostile.
• Israel takes additional territory to support their interests.
• Israel gains territory card and places troops there

And that's pretty much still where we are at. Yes, I think The Six Day War was justified.

And far as I am concerned The Arab interests invalidated the 'two state solution' from the outset. Really scripted everything from there. Palestine has always been EVERYONE'S leverage.
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You on ats.. you dont know a false flag when you see one.. Perimeter border left unagaurded.. Most sophisticated air defense system in the world over come come by a few men with comfort blankies and fans..


MOSAD real good at false flags.. US liberty got bombed by Isreali forces for getting too close to false flag event in Egypt... 40 men dead..

was that a defensive act...


MOSAD agents arrested filming 911.. was that a defensive act..


HAMAS was created by MOSAD was that a defensive act..



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33




• Allies took Palestine from Caliphate. • Upheld promise to create an Israeli State • Let Jews move there starting in 1918 • Muslims never liked them. • More Jews 'returned HOME'


How did they let the Jews back. It was not theirs to give...

Missed out the Rothchilds who actually set up the state.. Khazarians.. frrom ukraine. the banking cartel . Same elite war Putin is now engaged...



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Degradation33




• Allies took Palestine from Caliphate. • Upheld promise to create an Israeli State • Let Jews move there starting in 1918 • Muslims never liked them. • More Jews 'returned HOME'


How did they let the Jews back. It was not theirs to give...

Missed out the Rothchilds who actually set up the state.. Khazarians.. frrom ukraine. the banking cartel . Same elite war Putin is now engaged...




Well there's nothing crazy about that.

I like ACTUAL history though.


The Balfour Declaration, which resulted in a significant upheaval in the lives of Palestinians, was issued on November 2, 1917. The declaration turned the Zionist aim of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine into a reality when Britain publicly pledged to establish “a national home for the Jewish people” there.


And yes I know who Walter Freaking Rothschild is. It's a popular surname.

My last name doesn't have a Wikipedia page:

en.m.wikipedia.org...


The origins of the Palestine problem as an international issue, however, lie in events occurring towards the end of the First World War. These events led to a League of Nations decision to place Palestine under the administration of Great Britain as the Mandatory Power under the Mandates System adopted by the League.


So yes, It was Great Britain's to do this with... legally.

Muslim say in that territory stopped mattering when the Ottoman Empire lost WWI. That's War and territory changing hands.
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33
1922 Rothchild controlled congress endorsed the fraudulent Balfour agreement.. Creating an illegitimate state, Signed by a zionsist asset president Harding sometimes late 1922.. Wonder who endorsed world war 2 to put the icing on the cake..?

this is the elite cartel we are talking about. The third side of the triangle that has to fall. (first two have fallen already)

Funny how so many endorse it.. Same cartel that used MOSAD agent Epstein to traffic and rape children in order to hold wet criminality over the worlds power structures..

Funny the power structures peeps look up at,



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: angelchemuel

Thanks for ther srticle. It's a great read but one part has me slightly confused.

She mentions soldiers moved in and took over a room 24 hours ago but it doesn't clarify if they were Hamas or IDF forces - I'm assuming she means Hamas as I'm pretty certain using a holy ssite/cultural sigificant building as defence with 1000s of civilians inside is massively illegal.

It's worth remembering she is in an active warzone, under immenses stress and desperate to get herself and family evacuated as they no longer have access to food or water - there's a strong possibility the person could be exagerating events to improve their chance of survival; can't blame them for doing so if that occured but claims should be taken with a pinch of salt in such situations.

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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: purplemer

Okay, screw this.


1922 Rothchild controlled congress endorsed the fraudulent Balfour agreement.. Creating an illegitimate state, Signed by a zionsist asset...

Funny how so many endorse it.. Same cartel that used MOSAD agent Epstein to traffic and rape children in order to hold wet criminality over the worlds power structures..


Are you sure that's fire? That just sounds like victimhood and paranoia.

You must want to be a peasant. To elevate families to this god-like status because or long their inherited wealth in Europe is like a need to pull a victim card and remain there. Like being an INCEL towards stratification. Hell is always other people.

That is (relatively) the same condemnation Hitler had of The Rothschilds. Inspired his incoherent victimhood manifesto his fruitcake ass wrote in prison. Evil Jewish bankers. Keeping good people down.

So how about a quote:


I believe I understand anti-Semitism which is a very complex movement. I see it as a Jew, but without hatred or fear. I recognize what is anti-Semitism is rude jesting, vulgar jealousy of métier, hereditary prejudice; but also what can be considered as in fact legitimate defence. - Theodore Herzl


What's you're opinion of Theodore Herzl, I would absolutely welcome you to type out at paranoid length your views on him and also the roles Jews play in global domination. Do you think Jewish financial interests are to blame for the war(s)?
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 11:41 AM
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lol no screw you..


Great put your faith in an elite that traffic little kids and get them raped so they stay in power. If you want to trust them good for you...

Not my kinda thing.. think its pretty sick tbh
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: purplemer

To clear this up, I now support child trafficking/raping elites by proxy if I support Israel? And this is because of the rich Jewish banking family interests that coauthored The Balfour Declaration. Am I getting this line of logic correct?

Okay, let's rhetorically cosign child slavery for a post.. And that's your disclaimer.


Kids can get a good price on the open market. Especially in China. Especially when the organs aren't tainted by abuse. More regenerative properties. Upwards of 225k per child for good product. Like No Malaria exposure. That's probably why they allegedly abduct Western children. Health standards and lifestyles make for ultimately higher quality product I'd imagine.

But there's also 192 million child slaves worldwide (in varying degrees) they could use. Only a tiny fraction of them end up in Thailand, Nepal, other sex houses, Royal Muslim harems, or are organ harvested, the majority sew footballs and name brand apparel in Bangalore or Bangladesh. Tiny hands to make tiny toys. But they are all prone to malnutrition and failing organs. Transmitted disease. And likely fetch significant lower prices on the child slavery black market, regardless of what they are being sold for.

That's a big industry, HUGE GLOBAL industry, child slavery is. The trafficking part alone is wirth 150 billion. How do The Rothschilds, Israel, and globalist elites fit in? Beyond the armies of outsourced slave children their companies all use?

If I wanted to take a moral stand over elites and child abuse, and reject all instances of it, I couldn't even own a smartphone.
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: purplemer

I get you. Joos=Bad.

Everywhere, all the time.

Right?



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogani

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An Israeli Defense Forces sniper shot and killed two women inside the Holy Family Parish in Gaza on Saturday, according to a statement from the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem, which oversees Catholic churches across Cyprus, Jordan, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank.

The majority of Christian families inside Gaza have taken refuge inside the parish since the start of the war, the statement added.

The two women, described as a mother and daughter, were walking to the convent, and "one was killed as she tried to carry the other to safety," it said. Seven others were shot and wounded in the attack.

"No warning was given, no notification was provided. They were shot in cold blood inside the premises of the Parish, where there are no belligerents," the statement continued.

Cruel and indiscriminate killing of all people. Now, even inside churches.

I am so glad the international criminal court in the Hague has already started war crimes investigations.

I am at a loss for words, which doesn't happen often, I am verbose, as you all know. I think fast, I write fast, and I say a lot. In this case, there is nothing more I can add regarding this unnecessary and unprovoked tragedy.


Did anyone see this part?

The Holy See, the government of Vatican City, republished the Jerusalem patriarchate’s statement in a news release issued through Vatican News. It added: “Israel has justified the attack, claiming the presence of a missile launcher in the parish.”



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: BaddieMcBadass

No, but I did see this:

IDF-refutes-claim-it-targeted -sole-catholic-church-in-gaza-after-2-women-said-killed


IDF refutes claim it targeted sole Catholic church in Gaza after 2 women said killed

Army says review found no indication of parish being hit or civilians harmed, after patriarchate says mother and daughter were killed by IDF sniper fire; pope condemns 'terrorism'

The Israel Defense Forces refuted on Sunday a claim that it had targeted a Catholic parish in the Gaza Strip, after the Latin patriarch of Jerusalem asserted that an elderly Christian woman and her daughter had been shot and killed by an Israeli sniper on the grounds of the Holy Family Parish on Saturday.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

Stressing that the IDF “does not target civilians, no matter their religion,” the army told AFP that it had on Saturday been contacted by church representatives about an incident in the Holy Family Parish, but “no reports of a hit on the church, nor civilians being injured or killed, were raised.”


From the dugout comes a chant...

Let's go! 👏👏 IDF 👏👏 Let's go IDF 👏👏 LET'S GO!
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posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: BaddieMcBadass
The Holy See, the government of Vatican City, republished the Jerusalem patriarchate’s statement in a news release issued through Vatican News. It added: “Israel has justified the attack, claiming the presence of a missile launcher in the parish.”


The Vatican is just regurgitating what the Patriarch of Jerusalem, who has lied for Hamas in the past, has claimed. The Vatican doesn't know anything about what happened. And it got the part about Israel justifying the attack wrong. Israel says it didn't target the civilians. It has not admitted doing anything.

As I said before, an IDF soldier may have hit the women and they are denying it. OR ... Hamas may have snipered the women and falsely accused Israel of doing so. Hamas has killed Palestinians and falsely accused Israel of doing it many times before.

But quoting the Vatican means nothing. They are just parroting what the dhimmi Patriarch of Jerusalem claims, and he's been caught pushing Hamas propaganda before so his claims are highly suspect. He may be right. But he equally may be wrong.



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 03:10 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: BaddieMcBadass
The Holy See, the government of Vatican City, republished the Jerusalem patriarchate’s statement in a news release issued through Vatican News. It added: “Israel has justified the attack, claiming the presence of a missile launcher in the parish.”


The Vatican is just regurgitating what the Patriarch of Jerusalem, who has lied for Hamas in the past, has claimed. The Vatican doesn't know anything about what happened. And it got the part about Israel justifying the attack wrong. Israel says it didn't target the civilians. It has not admitted doing anything.

As I said before, an IDF soldier may have hit the women and they are denying it. OR ... Hamas may have snipered the women and falsely accused Israel of doing so. Hamas has killed Palestinians and falsely accused Israel of doing it many times before.

But quoting the Vatican means nothing. They are just parroting what the dhimmi Patriarch of Jerusalem claims, and he's been caught pushing Hamas propaganda before so his claims are highly suspect. He may be right. But he equally may be wrong.


The reason I quoted them was them saying there was a rocket launcher in there. That enough would honestly justify a sniper in the mind of people running a war.



posted on Dec, 18 2023 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: BaddieMcBadass
The reason I quoted them was them saying there was a rocket launcher in there. That enough would honestly justify a sniper in the mind of people running a war.

Oh ... I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Sorry. I did a search and found nothing else on a missile launcher. Of course ... the Vatican and everyone else are too busy screaming at Israel to say anything about one if there was one. I just get that Israel confirms an 'incident' but they have not said anything other than that.



posted on Dec, 19 2023 @ 06:41 AM
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It is easy to judge when we are not living within the horror. You should be grateful it was the IDF searching you and not some other groups that exist. If you lived and operated in a war zone you would be over reactive to at a guess.



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