Putin hopes for 'more constructive' US president

a reply to: FlyersFan

Hmm......... Seems I Recall when Donald J. Trump was President , Russian/US Relations were Peaceful and Cordial . The Noticeable Change to all that Happened After he Left office ..........

a reply to: Mahogani
I appreciate your response.....you could have been s****y like some (a lot) of the liberals on here and you weren't. I had not seen read any of the articles that you posted but would like to point out that they were all opinion pieces and when you actually listen to the interviews you see that Trump was answering questions he had been asked. It isn't a secret that neither Trump or Putin are for globalism, neither am I. It also isn't a secret that the Ukraine Gov. has been known to be one of the most corrupt countries on the planet for years and years before Trump won in 2016. I'm not talking about secret labs or any of the other things we've heard in the last few years either.
I am leery of Putin myself but he is not a stupid man so for someone to ask Trump if he thinks Putin is smart and his response is yes, isn't what I call praising or fawning. I would think the U.S. would want a leader to be diplomatic and maintain good relationships with the leaders of other countries. Isn't that how we are supposed to treat others until they give us reason not too?

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

That bit from the politico hit piece, Trump is telling Clay & Buck what he saw on t.v. the morning was prior to the invasion. when Putin declared independence on a portion of the Ukraine. Later when it was apparent that Putin was invading Ukraine Trump said that Putin had made a terrible mistake by invading the Ukraine. That came from one of your links.

Now do you remember before the 2016 election when the left were screaming that Trump would start WW3? Then it turned out he was the only President in the 21st century to not get the U.S. into a war. So the left wasn't happy that he beat Clinton because he would ruin the country and start WW3. Then when he didn't berate or insult other nations leaders in efforts to have open dialog with them and trying to be diplomatic they still weren't happy he is fawning and praising them. Is that really logical?

I didn't like Trump at first and called him an asshead, my vote went to Ben Carson in the primaries and then I noticed how visceral the politicians that I believe to be crooked such as Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, and Bidens (among others) were towards him. Why? Why were that way towards the man prior to the 2016 election? They wanted him out of "their" business, the business of fleecing the citizens of the United States.

Hillary was so scared he was going to lock her ass up that she paid for a fake dossier to try to ruin the man? If she did nothing wrong what was she so scared of that she risked her political career and humiliated the U.S. and her own party to stop him from having access to information that only the President could have access to and to make public.

Please tell me you can see what I am trying to point out and not come back with a response the sounds like TDS.
I read your posts and I know you are intelligent. All I am asking is to try to see things from a different perspective. If we all keep having piss fights, well that means they have us where they want us. I am not asking you to like Trump, I am asking that you do some research on those other sumbitches I named two paragraphs up.

Again, I respect and appreciate your response to me and allowing me the opportunity say what I have said in your thread.

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

Who's duress? 😀

Check the History and the pipelines. 😀

The country that got invaded seems the obvious answer to who was under duress.

None of this matters as the operation remains.

And will remain, until every Ukrainian Azov Nazi Stephan Bandera supporter is completely stripped and demilitarized .

Problem? Head your attention how this f#ck of a “country” celebrates a Nazi f#ck (Stephan Bandera) like it’s a holiday.

Look, this whole thing was called from the get go.

We all knew it. And know it to this present day.

So what’s the hold up?

Well, as you can imagine there’s a corrupt group in zee “west” that’s been in power and had “pay for play” with Ukraine in the 2000s. Coupled with MIC (which is always there) and it mingles. And money gets fed in the grinder with a profit (not you)

The more money and cheerleading that’s brought there, the more it’s getting vaporized in the long run. (and deaths)

I’d say a negotiation to pause (and regroup) which Zelensky just announced they’re shifting into a defensive phase (because the hailed summer offensive failed) yet no negotiation.

Russia says ok no pause. Because it knows from the past Minsk agreements that it’s all bullsh*t anyway.

Former German Chancellor Merkel admits it was: www.wsws.org...

Also her admitting it on other various sources and videos etc it’s around.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: FlyersFan

She also wants to remove anonymity from the internet.

I don't want that, but man it would be funny to see - at least for a day or two.

a reply to: watchitburn

Yeah and that can only mean one thing: Opening up the internet to even more cancel culture.

Because the appropriate agencies already know who you and I are. Just not common Joe. This reeks of enabling self justice. A family friend once was threatened with death over an argument about meat, the young woman found out his address and threatened him to ignite his house while he is at sleep.

Only bad things can come out of this, as the internet is not anonymous, not for the appropriate agencies that can pull IP addresses and even sue VPN providers for metadata, already.

This amounts to actually silencing people efficient because why post on the internet, when you can not be sure some nutjob takes offense in whatever you do and acts on it.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: watchitburn

Yeah and that can only mean one thing: Opening up the internet to even more cancel culture.

Because the appropriate agencies already know who you and I are. Just not common Joe. This reeks of enabling self justice. A family friend once was threatened with death over an argument about meat, the young woman found out his address and threatened him to ignite his house while he is at sleep.

Only bad things can come out of this, as the internet is not anonymous, not for the appropriate agencies that can pull IP addresses and even sue VPN providers for metadata, already.

This amounts to actually silencing people efficient because why post on the internet, when you can not be sure some nutjob takes offense in whatever you do and acts on it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: RazorV66
Haley would likely start a war with Russia.
We don’t want her in there.

I was starting to think she was okay but then she proudly proclaimed herself a 'globalist'. So now I'm very leary of her.

What about Robert Kennedy?
He shares your pro genocide beliefs as well.

The fact you'd even consider the warmonger Nikki Hailey says so much about you. I'm curious if you support someone who gets America involved in another pointless war will you and yours be the first in line to pay with blood?

Because many of us have already sacrificed so much for an establishment that abandoned us. It's frustrating watching people like yourself support more war from your lazyboy that will only lead to the further erosion of our country. The American government and military industrial complex are more of a threat to you than Hamas and Putin combined.

You better learn who the real enemy is damn quick before you find yourself on the wrong side of a revolution.

a reply to: JAY1980

I live rent free inside your tiny brain.
Always straight to my posts.
Always off topic and personal insults.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Why what's wrong with Trump now?

What are you talking about?
Trump isn't president so Putin wasn't talking about him.

What are you talking about? Sheesh

The NEW president in 2024 as per your OP.

Again, why is Putin not looking at Trump for the 2024 Pres. What's wrong with Trump now?

Well, Trump has several times now talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of our country". He's gone full Nazi.

‘Poisoning the blood of our country’: Trump delivers caustic attack on immigrants

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Why what's wrong with Trump now?

What are you talking about?
Trump isn't president so Putin wasn't talking about him.

What are you talking about? Sheesh

The NEW president in 2024 as per your OP.

Again, why is Putin not looking at Trump for the 2024 Pres. What's wrong with Trump now?

Well, Trump has several times now talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of our country". He's gone full Nazi.

‘Poisoning the blood of our country’: Trump delivers caustic attack on immigrants

Dry your crocodile tears.

You’re trying to take illegal immigration/border control and twist it into something “racist” as a deflection on the repercussions and damage that arises from it.

If you’re so vocal about the illegal immigration/migrants situation perhaps you can house them. Look what’s going on in Chicago.

Housing camps.

The migrants currently have tents wrapped around police stations. And a lot are vocal there. Saying they don’t want “Camps”

Democrats in the “sanctuary cities” say here’s your camps. Now we want our votes.

Despite “taxes” in crook county Chicago constantly going up. Even after legalizing weed and gambling. No one knows where it’s all going. Where is the hard earned money and taxes getting funneled to?

That’s all it is. Just to pander votes.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Why what's wrong with Trump now?

What are you talking about?
Trump isn't president so Putin wasn't talking about him.

What are you talking about? Sheesh

The NEW president in 2024 as per your OP.

Again, why is Putin not looking at Trump for the 2024 Pres. What's wrong with Trump now?

Well, Trump has several times now talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of our country". He's gone full Nazi.

‘Poisoning the blood of our country’: Trump delivers caustic attack on immigrants

Trump has gone full nazi?

Trump has never railed against immigrants. He railed against illegal immigrants.

And who can blame him? Every single one broke the law to get here. And they are gonna be good and not break the law once they are here?

A buddy of mine got married to someone from a different country, an ally. Following the law, his wife can't come here for 18 months. If she gets a tourist visa to visit, it will take even longer.

I told him to fly her to Mexico, we can walk her across. He won't, but we laughed about it.

Many of those on here who are fed from progressive news sources don't even get a full quote, much less the context of the statement.

Makes me laugh, and cry. It is sad.

Mockingbird seems to be a huge success.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
a reply to: JAY1980

I live rent free inside your tiny brain.
Always straight to my posts.
Always off topic and personal insults.

No insults from me. I just cut you up with information.,,, funny eh

Gona be great when Trump gets back in.. Game over.. See Putin and Trump want to prosecute the same people. It was the US that blocked the investigation through the UN, Wont be the case soon..

The corruption is gona come out..

a reply to: chr0naut

Well, Trump has several times now talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of our country". He's gone full Nazi.

Having a culture you want to protect makes you a NAZI does it.. tell me does your front door have a lock on it. How many refugees have you got living in your house..?

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: chr0naut

Well, Trump has several times now talked about immigrants "poisoning the blood of our country". He's gone full Nazi.

Having a culture you want to protect makes you a NAZI does it.. tell me does your front door have a lock on it. How many refugees have you got living in your house..?

America's native people were not Caucasian and their native cultures have already been strongly suppressed (Trail of Tears type suppression). All that remains now in America is a synthesis of 'immigrant' cultures.

The Nazis alleged that peoples who had been part of their local cultures for thousands of years, were foreign and alien. Just like the far-right are alleging in America now.

Immigrants pose no threat to American culture.

At the moment, only my immediate family live at my house. I however am not a native of New Zealand, where I live. However, several times I have hosted people who were new immigrants when I lived in the country of my birth, and we have also hosted exchange students in our house several times, here in New Zealand. They NEVER posed a threat my family's culture.

Are you an American native, from a native tribe? If not, you are from an immigrant culture.

a reply to: purplemer

Ever hear of the Nazis and the Aryan blood obsession thing that they had?

Americans are all descendants of immigrants.

originally posted by: chr0naut
Immigrants pose no threat to American culture.

Legal ones usually don't. Illegal ones pose a threat to America ... period. They are INVADING. Breaking the bank. Bringing drugs and crime, overflowing hospitals and schools. Americans can't afford them.

You aren't from here. So you really don't know.

a reply to: FlyersFan

We also have illegal immigrants here in the UK. We are sending them to Rwanda. Oh, hang on a minute.....

a reply to: FlyersFan

Surely this was a 'mis-speak' and he meant compliant and complicit?

I'm giving this stars and a flag for so, so many reasons. Some of them after reading include, but are not limited to the following:

1. It's PHENOMENAL how quickly Trump gets brought into things.

2. It's even BETTER how quickly and easily people can nit pick mainstream articles for sayings and quotes that often times twisted and contorted into the most outlandish, sensational crap you could possibly read.

3. So many people are so easily influenced by the mainstream media ON THIS SITE (holy crap, has it gotten bad over the years) that it's no longer banter between members, it's reflective of a select few going up against CNN and FOX interns, where counter points devolve into boisterous bickering and derogatory nay-saying.

4. The countless examples of people residing in their MSM designated bubbles of short memory and inability to look into anything is simple *chef's kiss*

It's not a battle of which one of our lying talking heads is the most believable in their constant onslaught of verifiable BS; it's supposed to be something to dig into and see the real "WHY" and "WHAT" is going on behind the scenes.

Deny ignorance. Don't perpetuate it.

Cheese.