Radical Michigan Imam Calls for Muslims to Wage Jihad in US

a reply to: andy06shake

That is true and by doing that they just watch when their religious brothers and sisters wage a holy war on every other religion.

Islam is law for them and one of these laws says you can not go after your fellow muslims but you are allowed to be insidious, lying, tricking infidels and people from other religions, if it helps the cause of Islam.

Read up on Islam and then try telling me what I wrote was not 100% correct.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

That is true and by doing that they just watch when their religious brothers and sisters wage a holy war on every other religion.

Its hardly a peaceable person's job to intervene where ars@holes and religious zealots are concerned.

Im sure you dont go about trying to rehabilitate every Jesus freak you come across with a billboard telling us the end is nigh.

Islam is law for them and one of these laws says you can not go after your fellow muslims but you are allowed to be insidious, lying, tricking infidels and people from other religions, if it helps the cause of Islam.

It's an Abrahamic organised religious practice to which 1.9 billion people subscribe worldwide.

The truth is they are all as bad as one another, organised religious practices that is, and about nothing more than control.

It's predominantly how people choose to interpret religion that's the problem, or can be problematic, by my guess.

Read up on Islam and then try telling me what I wrote was not 100% correct.

I don't seem to recall replying to you here in this thread or calling into question anything you wrote.

I dont need to read up on Islam or Muslims, i grew up with them, and the majority are just like you and me, simply paying lip service to a religion given to them by their parents.

Are there crazy people who adhere to the religion and who choose to spread hatred, conflict, and misery everywhere they go, and who wish to cause others who choose to disregard the p@sh the spout pain and misery, unfortunately, the answer is yes.

But again, they are a small minority, as opposed to any sort of majority.

a reply to: andy06shake

Its hardly a peaceable person's job to intervene where ars@holes and religious zealots are concerned.

Im sure you dont go about trying to rehabilitate every Jesus freak you come across with a billboard telling us the end is nigh.

Oh it is, it is called civil courage. Why would I defend Jesus when I am not even Christian? Did you just assume my religion lol?

I don't seem to recall replying to you here in this thread or calling into question anything you wrote.

Why does that matter, do you have the exclusive right to reply to random people? Why even formulate a reply then?

I dont need to read up on Islam or Muslims, i grew up with them, and the majority are just like you and me, simply paying lip service to a religion given to them by their parents.

The majority in your vincinity, in your western country. Have you been to places like Egypt yet? Or any other Muslim arabic country? Do you know how women are treated there?

But again they are a small minority as opposed to any sort of majority.

Exactly my point: The majority stays silent because their religion tells them to put other Muslims before the rest of the infidels. It's built into the religion. So the majority always has the excuse to not act on their terrorist brothers and sisters, because religion is law for them.

That's what you need to understand. I am not talking about "lipservice Muslims". Did you just call the majority of Muslim doing lip service? That's ignorant AF.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Oh it is, it is called civil courage. Why would I defend Jesus when I am not even Christian? Did you just assume my religion lol?

I did assume your religion, ma bad, but i think you may be looking for an argument, so there is that. LoL

Why does that matter, do you have the exclusive right to reply to random people? Why even formulate a reply then?

Simply pointing it out, but your are correct it don't matter much.

The majority in your vincinity, in your western country. Have you been to places like Egypt yet? Or any other Muslim arabic country? Do you know how women are treated there?

No but i would love to visit someday.

Been to Turkey, Been to Tunisia, does that count?

As to how women are treated, that would be like chattel.

The same way Christianity treated them right up until a about 100 years ago, and the same way many other religions choose to treat women which is something to consider.

Exactly my point: The majority stays silent because their religion tells them to put other Muslims before the rest of the infidels. It's built into the religion. So the majority always has the excuse to not act on their terrorist brothers and sisters, because religion is law for them.

Again its an Abrahamic religion, might be the same God but they choose not to get along.

I mean its not that hard to understand and divide and conquer 101 really.

Can you see what it is yet?

That's what you need to understand. I am not talking about "lipservice Muslims". Did you just call the majority of Muslim doing lip service? That's ignorant AF.

And there you go looking for more arguments. LoL

Anyhoo weans 11 B-day today.

You have fun.

No, not looking for arguments, just holding up a mirror so you can see what you did with that post of yours.

You assumed my religion, you claimed I can not answer to you when you do not reply to me first, you act like the tiny fraction of Muslims you know in personal represent the rest of the religion and then you make excuses and assumptions how Muslims are mostly just lipservicing anyways.

Crafting the ultimate excuse about the obvious lack of distancing from their terrorist brothers and sisters. I see that different.

We can agree to disagree.

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

Is that what i did aye.

We can agree to disagree.

Sure can and without even the rest of that rant no less.

And if its assumptions that are your boggle, you seem to be making plenty yourself regarding Muslims.

Muslims are just people ThatDamnDuckAgain, same as the rest of us for the most part, choose to see things how you wish.

Good and bad people in all walks of life.

As to how i act, well i act the same way i do, when im in contact with Muslims every day.

And the same as i do with any other people.

If that's not your experience of them i have to wonder why, but it's your own concern i suppose.

Calling for aggression and death of others is not protected by free speech.

a reply to: AlongCameaSpider

He is a terrorist with a record to prove it and still he is allowed by our own government to roam the streets of our nation and call for the dead of Americans.

This how F*up America has become; we do have laws to protect people from terrorist threats and hate speech.

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider
Calling for aggression and death of others is not protected by free speech.

Exactly, so why is this Imam free to call for aggression and death of others? The FBI may be letting this guy remain active for a wider surveillance of homeland terrorism, I can't see any other explanation.

a reply to: AlongCameaSpider

Nail. head, hammer.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider
Calling for aggression and death of others is not protected by free speech.

Exactly

Thank you for finally realizing, and admitting, how wrong you were all day yesterday.

a reply to: quintessentone

That could make a modicum of sense.

Or maybe they are just giving him enough rope and all that jazz?

His time will come i imagine.

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider
Calling for aggression and death of others is not protected by free speech.

Exactly

Thank you for finally realizing, and admitting, how wrong you were all day yesterday.

All day yesterday I kept repeating that he should be jailed and silenced. It's your bias that prevented you from understanding what I was posting. Get it?

a reply to: quintessentone

Wrong

You kept calling for his "community" to silence him, and saying that anyone else who wanted him silenced were infringing on his 1st amendment right, calling for him to be "de-platformed", and not condemning his action as a terroristic threat.

Never once did you say he needed to be jailed.

The only bias here is yours when it comes to being proven wrong by certain members here.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Wrong

You kept calling for his "community" to silence him, and saying that anyone else who wanted him silenced were infringing on his 1st amendment right, calling for him to be "de-platformed", and not condemning his action as a terroristic threat.

Never once did you say he needed to be jailed.

The only bias here is yours when it comes to being proven wrong by certain members here.

I was theorizing because the FBI didn't arrest him, so I was throwing out that alternative when government fails to act.

You are transparent and others here see and acknowledge it as well.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider
Calling for aggression and death of others is not protected by free speech.

Exactly, so why is this Imam free to call for aggression and death of others? The FBI may be letting this guy remain active for a wider surveillance of homeland terrorism, I can't see any other explanation.

What I've been thinking from the beginning of this thread, they are using this guy to bait others into a wider net to pick up on any intelligence they can before they Gitmo anyone. I go even further and say that this "Imam" is probably a covert agent plant placed by the alphabet gang for that very purpose.

Also, the Quran is not "their bible" and the implied comparison is a jab at Christianity that I find ignorant and insulting.

a reply to: quintessentone

Since you still have yet to answer from yesterday when I asked you a million times, where is your proof that he was never arrested?

You are the only one that was defending him, everyone else here was condemning his actions. I'd say your transparency is the real issue here. But you don't want to see it so oh well

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Since you still have yet to answer from yesterday when I asked you a million times, where is your proof that he was never arrested?

You are the only one that was defending him, everyone else here was condemning his actions. I'd say your transparency is the real issue here. But you don't want to see it so oh well

I have never defended him, you keep trying to label me but it won't work.

You just can't see past your anger and bias, let it go man, it will eat you up inside.

I will repeat, if the FBI won't arrest him then what is left to do? The American Muslim community needs to shut him down because the government won't or can't because he is hiding behind his legal rights, perhaps. Or, alternatively, the FBI is allowing him to remain active so they can have a wider surveillance on homeland terrorism.

a reply to: quintessentone

Sure, keep avoiding the question you can't answer. We see you bud

Not trying to label anything, we all know who and what you are.

hiding behind his legal rights

There is no legal right to what he said, or did you completely skip over what I posted earlier. Wait, of course you did.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Sure, keep avoiding the question you can't answer. We see you bud

Not trying to label anything, we all know who and what you are.

hiding behind his legal rights

There is no legal right to what he said, or did you completely skip over what I posted earlier. Wait, of course you did.

If that were true why doesn't the FBI arrest him right now?

Of course you are trying to demean people on this site and it's plain for all to see.

Try to be a better person for all our sakes.