S.C. Jack Smith Asks the Supreme Court if US Presidents are Immune from Prosecution.

December 27, 2023

WHAT IS Special Counsel Prosecutor JACK SMITH SO AFRAID OF?

Special counsel Jack Smith wants the court to limit what Donald Trump says in his testimony in his upcoming federal election interference trial.

In a Wednesday filing, Smith told the court it "should not permit the defendant to turn the courtroom into a forum in which he propagates irrelevant disinformation and should reject his attempt to inject politics into this proceeding."

He asked U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, who is overseeing the trial, to prevent Trump from telling the jury he was targeted for political prosecution by President Joe Biden.

Smith argued that those accusations are not only irrelevant to jurors' determination of Trump's guilt or innocence but would be "prejudicial if presented to the jury."

Source: www.newsweek.com...

Sounds like Smith doesn't want the Jury to receive input which could cause them to use their brain!

a reply to: WeMustCare

Yeah , God Forbid the Man has a God Given and Constitutional Right to Defend himself . What Nonsense !

a reply to: WeMustCare

It's a standard Motion in Limine to prevent a party from presenting irrelevant evidence to the jury.

What is Trump so scared of that he doesn't want to go to trial if he has, according to you, a slam dunk case that will also prove election fraud in 2020?

a reply to: Threadbarer

He is not scared. His lawyers are simply asking for more time to review all of the evidence in the case and probably to see if Jack Smith will suddenly find some 'new' evidence.

a reply to: matafuchs

We've been told since November 2020 they have all the evidence they need to overturn the election, they're just waiting for the right venue. So why are they stalling so much? If theit case is as strong as people like Trump, Lindell, and Rudy have been saying for years, it shouldn't matter what evidence Smith presents.

You'd think they'd want to get that evidence out there before Biden finishes his first term.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Ask his lawyers who know what they are doing instead of listening to the media. Also, maybe they are trying to control the narrative a bit. It is all a game....

a reply to: matafuchs

So if the point is to have time to review all of the evidence why are they delaying in ways that prevents discovery from proceeding? Until the CIPA hearings occur, the DOJ cannot release any of their classified evidence.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: WeMustCare

It's a standard Motion in Limine to prevent a party from presenting irrelevant evidence to the jury.

What is Trump so scared of that he doesn't want to go to trial if he has, according to you, a slam dunk case that will also prove election fraud in 2020?

How do they think it's irrelevant unless it's presented?

a reply to: Threadbarer

“This case presents numerous novel and complex legal issues,” wrote John F. Lauro, one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers. “Counsel has been diligently researching these questions and preparing appropriate pretrial motions, but requires a brief extension of time to complete this process.”

IT is complex....

So far, prosecutors said, they have turned over about 1.28 million pages of unclassified materials to the defense, including about 200 transcripts of witness interviews and grand jury appearances. They have also made several transcripts available to Mr. Trump and his team in which witnesses discuss classified issues.

There are a lot of documents.....and.....they do not have to be Classified. There were less than a dozen items that were deemed unlookable by the lawyers the info was so 'sensitive' ....

The dispute began last week, when Mr. Trump’s lawyers accused the government of failing to hand over all the materials it was obliged to under the discovery process. The lawyers said they needed that material to gear up for a related fight over whether prosecutors should be able to redact some of the classified documents at the heart of the case before providing them to the defense. Mr. Trump’s lawyers, claiming that the government was effectively rushing a complex process, asked Judge Cannon to push back any attempt to even broach the subject of redactions until January. His lawyers in the election interference case have made a similar request, asking to postpone the consideration of redactions on the limited amount of classified material in that proceeding, too.

Why would the US Government withhold evidence? Discovery has begun.

the reason is also because of scheduling conflicts the US DOJ wanted to interrupt his campaign.

a reply to: WingDingLuey

Because the scope of the case is known. The scope is focused on J6. Smith and his team weren't appointed until 2022. If Trump's lawyers want to present evidence the prosecution's case was flawed that falls within the scope of the case. Attacks on the character of the prosecution's team do not.

They are not the ones on trial.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: WeMustCare

It's a standard Motion in Limine to prevent a party from presenting irrelevant evidence to the jury.

What is Trump so scared of that he doesn't want to go to trial if he has, according to you, a slam dunk case that will also prove election fraud in 2020?

What is the gov't so scared of that they won't let Trump defend himself?

This logic cuts both ways, but only one side of this needs to prove guilt.....

a reply to: matafuchs

The classified materials have not been handed over because the CIPA hearings have not taken place. Those hearings establish all the guidelines for handling and disclosing information contained in those documents.

The whole point of CIPA is to prevent greymail. So why would the government hand over that material when the court has not established those safeguards?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: matafuchs

We've been told since November 2020 they have all the evidence they need to overturn the election, they're just waiting for the right venue. So why are they stalling so much? If theit case is as strong as people like Trump, Lindell, and Rudy have been saying for years, it shouldn't matter what evidence Smith presents.

You'd think they'd want to get that evidence out there before Biden finishes his first term.

More people are digging holes, or digging deeper holes for themselves. The updated Federal Execution guidelines** will need to be stress tested in 2025. The more traitors identified before then, the better!

**ny1.com...

a reply to: Threadbarer

Ok. Why would the US Government withhold evidence? Discovery has begun.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
December 27, 2023

WHAT IS Special Counsel Prosecutor JACK SMITH SO AFRAID OF?

Special counsel Jack Smith wants the court to limit what Donald Trump says in his testimony in his upcoming federal election interference trial.

In a Wednesday filing, Smith told the court it "should not permit the defendant to turn the courtroom into a forum in which he propagates irrelevant disinformation and should reject his attempt to inject politics into this proceeding."

He asked U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, who is overseeing the trial, to prevent Trump from telling the jury he was targeted for political prosecution by President Joe Biden.

Smith argued that those accusations are not only irrelevant to jurors' determination of Trump's guilt or innocence but would be "prejudicial if presented to the jury."

Source: www.newsweek.com...

Sounds like Smith doesn't want the Jury to receive input which could cause them to use their brain!

PRESIDENT TRUMP RESPONDS, a few hours after Smith's request to judge Chutkan earlier today...

Donald Trump slams Special Counsel Jack Smith for asking a federal judge to bar the former president from introducing evidence concerning possible security failures on January 6.

“Can you imagine a man saying we’re not allowed to bring up the fact that I offered 10,000 troops for January 6?

Look, he’s got a bad record, he’s lost a lot of cases. And he loses them because he goes too far,” Trump says.

Source: justthenews.com...

a reply to: WeMustCare

The Smith Team may be engaging in jury tampering. They're contaminating the whole jury pool! 😀

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: WeMustCare

The Smith Team may be engaging in jury tampering. They're contaminating the whole jury pool! 😀

It may not matter. The Supreme Court will likely rule ONCE AGAIN that individuals can NOT be prosecuted for duties performed when they were President of the United States.

SCOTUS 1978 Ruling: commons.stmarytx.edu...

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: WeMustCare

The Smith Team may be engaging in jury tampering. They're contaminating the whole jury pool! 😀

It may not matter. The Supreme Court will likely rule ONCE AGAIN that individuals can NOT be prosecuted for duties performed when they were President of the United States.

SCOTUS 1978 Ruling: commons.stmarytx.edu...

Good find! Now let's see who argues. 😃

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: WeMustCare

The Smith Team may be engaging in jury tampering. They're contaminating the whole jury pool! 😀

It may not matter. The Supreme Court will likely rule ONCE AGAIN that individuals can NOT be prosecuted for duties performed when they were President of the United States.

SCOTUS 1978 Ruling: commons.stmarytx.edu...

Don’t most libs to make the argument this is about immunity from all prosecution?

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
a reply to: WeMustCare

The Smith Team may be engaging in jury tampering. They're contaminating the whole jury pool! 😀

It may not matter. The Supreme Court will likely rule ONCE AGAIN that individuals can NOT be prosecuted for duties performed when they were President of the United States.

SCOTUS 1978 Ruling: commons.stmarytx.edu...

Don’t most libs to make the argument this is about immunity from all prosecution?

UPDATE - January 3, 2024

I think we'll know how most libs think when the Appeals Court hears what Jack Smith and President Trump's attorneys have to say next week.

There has been a NEW point of consideration added to the Appeal Process...

Jack Smith’s appointment as special counsel might be in trouble.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit advised counsels in Smith’s criminal case against Trump to be prepared during previously scheduled January 9 oral arguments to address issues raised in briefs filed by amicus curiae.

The court made the announcement after an explosive amicus brief filed by attorneys for former Attorney General Ed Meese arguing that Jack Smith’s appointment as special counsel by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland is unconstitutional and so the court must reject his prosecution against Trump.

Meese, joined by Steven Calabresi, the co-chairman of the Federalist Society, and Gary Lawson, a prominent constitutional law professor, argues essentially that Garland improperly appointed Smith to an office that does not exist with authority Garland does not possess.

Trump shared a Breitbart News article on the brief, firing off on Smith’s appointment on Truth Social.

“Biden’s Flunky, Deranged Jack Smith, should go to HELL,” Trump wrote, continuing:

He is helping his Corrupt and Incompetent President to destroy America through Weaponization and ELECTION INTERFERENCE! Smith is a Crooked Prosecutor who shouldn’t even be allowed to be in the position he is in — It is Prosecutorial Misconduct. The Great Ed Meese from the Ronald Reagan Era has him figured perfectly!

More at: www.breitbart.com...