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Federal judge says Trump does not have absolute immunity, denying bid to dismiss election case

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posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 07:51 PM
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In a double blow for the former president, this Friday serves up another legal loss. Donald Trump's Hail Mary to get the federal election tampering case dismissed went belly up this evening, the same day another court found that the Jan 6 civil lawsuits against him could move forward.


The federal judge presiding over former President Donald Trump’s 2020 election subversion case in Washington, DC, has refused to dismiss the charges against him, saying he does not enjoy absolute immunity for what he said and did after the election.

“The court cannot conclude that our Constitution cloaks former Presidents with absolute immunity for any federal crimes they committed while in office,” US District Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote.

“Whatever immunities a sitting President may enjoy, the United States has only one Chief Executive at a time, and that position does not confer a lifelong “get-out-of-jail-free” pass. Former Presidents enjoy no special conditions on their federal criminal liability. Defendant may be subject to federal investigation, indictment, prosecution, conviction, and punishment for any criminal acts undertaken while in office,” Chutkan wrote.

Different cases, different courts, similar rulings. There is NO immunity. There is no immunity for what we do, or what we say, regardless of our position of power, or social status, or wealth. Everyone is the same in the eyes of the law, and no one is above the law. A president is not above the law, and neither is a former president.

That we are even discussing this shows just how far the American moral center has shifted. It should be common sense to any American that nobody is above the law. We used to chant it proudly. Now some spit on it.

I feel confident we're going to find our way back to our moral center. Slowly, but surely.


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posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 08:06 PM
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The more HATE Donald Trump overcomes, the bigger HERO he will be at the end of the movie.

TRUMP SKYWALKER!


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posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: WeMustCare
The more HATE Donald Trump overcomes, the bigger HERO he will be at the end of the movie.

TRUMP SKYWALKER!



More like Donald Vader.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: WeMustCare

Trump did this all to himself man. And he is dragging people down with him. At some point you have to realize he does not care about you only for himself. And that makes him a danger to our republic.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 08:19 PM
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So…….the Biden indictments start when?



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: Texastruth2
So…….the Biden indictments start when?


Well, if Trump had absolute immunity as President, then so does Joe!



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Correct. Trump does not, neither does Biden. So the indictments for Joe’s list of crimes starts when?
Y’all seem to think it’s ok for “your guy” to get away with crimes. Joe didn’t hold office during Trumps term.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: Mahogani

Ahh this has been dragging on for years now. I’ve totally forgotten. What did he do again?


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posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogani

Different cases, different courts, similar rulings. There is NO immunity. There is no immunity for what we do, or what we say, regardless of our position of power, or social status, or wealth. Everyone is the same in the eyes of the law, and no one is above the law. A president is not above the law, and neither is a former president.



I guess that means the cowardly legislators who turned tail and ran when they thought "the country was under attack" can be charged with desertion.

And the racist pig Michael Byrd can be charged with murder and sued for the wrongful death of Ashli Babbitt. If the coward isn't still hiding out at an Air Force base somewhere.

Because there is no immunity for what they do, right?



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:21 PM
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Yeah, this is the one where they want to charge him at a Federal and a State Level for the same thing and hope to get a conviction.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Dude she was fully aware of the outcome when she decides to move forward.
She has a not good history and deserved what happened.
You would be saying the same thing if the tables were turned and I would agree with you also.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Different courts man.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundya4k
a reply to: WeMustCare

Trump did this all to himself man. And he is dragging people down with him. At some point you have to realize he does not care about you only for himself. And that makes him a danger to our republic.


You're being dragged down by being willingly deceived by left wing judges and prosecutors with track records of kangaroo courts ongoing. That's the danger to the republic, for which you don't stand.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: WeMustCare
The more HATE Donald Trump overcomes, the bigger HERO he will be at the end of the movie.

TRUMP SKYWALKER!



More like Donald Vader.

Not in this reality buddy.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundya4k
a reply to: WeMustCare

Trump did this all to himself man. And he is dragging people down with him. At some point you have to realize he does not care about you only for himself. And that makes him a danger to our republic.

I'm looking forward to that which you fear!

Keep delivering HOPE. Keep talking.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 09:59 PM
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Remember, asking for "immunity" was just a necessary step in the overall plan. It was never expected to be granted, LOL.

The Evidence of Democrat cheating will be the foundation that justifies all actions taken thereafter.

The legally-introduced classified evidence pointed out in this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Texastruth2
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Correct. Trump does not, neither does Biden. So the indictments for Joe’s list of crimes starts when?
Y’all seem to think it’s ok for “your guy” to get away with crimes. Joe didn’t hold office during Trumps term.


What did Joe supposedly do, again? I mean, I know what Trump has done. Every time he opens his mouth he voluntarily admits to crimes!


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posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: WeMustCare
The more HATE Donald Trump overcomes, the bigger HERO he will be at the end of the movie.

TRUMP SKYWALKER!



More like Donald Vader.


"They have me now."




posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 10:22 PM
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Ima just say this, as someone that don’t care for Trump.

There’s been A Lot of pressure to take down a former prez like I’ve never seen. Given I wasn’t alive for JFK.

But my god.

To hold American civilians in the same capacity as terrorists, just only one person exemplifies the audacity to which our government will throw down to prove that 1984/Brave New World is exactly how it’d turn out.

We never went to SA. We spent decades in Iraq and Afghanistan. Only to have to lens focused on people concerned on American voting. And how they did it.


Those of us that recognize what has occurred under Biden, and before don't place the blame on OMB.

The fight for the American Soul lies in the 1st.



posted on Dec, 1 2023 @ 10:51 PM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: Mahogani

Ahh this has been dragging on for years now. I’ve totally forgotten. What did he do again?



Not much.

Apparently, as the rebellion was taking down the capitol, he was eating Big Macs in his secret TV room.

Then again, it was all his plan all along.

CliffsNotes version.



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