The Supreme Court of Russia declared the LGBT movement extremist and banned it

a reply to: Annee

Annee youre getting worked up over my vernacular instead of reading my intents.

I agree with you on matters but you do tend to pick fights over the most minor indiscretions.

I understand it's an emotional issue and i admire your passion for the cause we are both fighting but you're getting worked up over trivial things like my use of language and making an issue over nothing.

Calm down.

I'm on your side here.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: Annee

I hold no malice towards others of a different persusions.

Persuasions?

Like it's a choice?

You are who you are wired to be.

We are not just a physical wrapping. We are extremely complex and complicated beyond that -- with neurons, nerves, genes, DNA, etc.

I do support a sliding scale -- that some are more strongly defined than others.

Putin is using forms of control -- I consider squelching freedom of speech in this matter one of them.

No, we were designed to be more than what we are made.
You even use examples that exemplify it but you define it as stagnant and undetering.

We must not succumbing to mediocrity and defined by our limitations but instead set aside our fleshly lists and serve the spirit in the spirit setting aside that old man/lady that the New man can grow.
We are so much more than the natural man seeking a spiritual experience here and there.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
Your mother was blessed and deserves more recognition than only being a victim for you to virtue signal for your political talking points.
She was obviously an overcomer for her to have raised a family.
Cursed is the vaccine suppliers for securing her physical fate.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: Annee

I hold no malice towards others of a different persusions.

Persuasions?

Like it's a choice?

You are who you are wired to be.

We are not just a physical wrapping. We are extremely complex and complicated beyond that -- with neurons, nerves, genes, DNA, etc.

I do support a sliding scale -- that some are more strongly defined than others.

Putin is using forms of control -- I consider squelching freedom of speech in this matter one of them.

No, we were designed to be more than what we are made.
You even use examples that exemplify it but you define it as stagnant and undetering.

We must not succumbing to mediocrity and defined by our limitations but instead set aside our fleshly lists and serve the spirit in the spirit setting aside that old man/lady that the New man can grow.
We are so much more than the natural man seeking a spiritual experience here and there.
We are spiritual beings having a human experience.
Your mother was blessed and deserves more recognition than only being a victim for you to virtue signal for your political talking points.
She was obviously an overcomer for her to have raised a family.
Cursed is the vaccine suppliers for securing her physical fate.

I'm Atheist.

I support science.

My mother was paralyzed from the waist down with three kids under 6 years old. I was 5. We were treated in public just like how LGBT people are treated. Thrown out of restaurants because another customer objected. Denied admission to certain businesses, etc.

Back to Putin. He is a controlling dictator denying free speech.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: Annee

Annee youre getting worked up over my vernacular instead of reading my intents.

Actually, I did pick up from your first post on your intent of trying to understand.

Thank you

The next generation has grown up with openly LGBTQ+ friends. Any negative prejudices they have come from their parents.

Putin will not be able to silence the up-and-coming generations.

a reply to: Annee

Kids these days are remarkably tolerant and empathic and openly supportive of LGBT issues which is wonderful.

There are still bullies out there but instead of being silent and taking the abuse they have enough support to fight back en mass.

I still struggle with pronouns from time to time because I rarely use them anyway but I'm getting better.

I can't keep up with the wealth of neopronouns because there are new ones everyday but within my circle of friends it's he she they them.

I've never met a Xi Xer.

They're a bit more rare.

a reply to: Annee

Such a federal move was so state laws could not be enacted that would violate the individuals rights... Individual in such a case would be simply put as disabled.

Without such a federal law states would have likely enacted Jim Crow style laws if they hadn't already... If they had they would have been immediately abolished.

If such individuals receive discrimination; It isn't from the federal and if it is by the state the Federal would back and support all such individuals discriminated against.

Such a thing is often on going as states enact many laws that are federally illegal and it if not represented as "One" such as disabled etc. then it is an individual suing the state directly...

Unfortunately such an individual only representing oneself; Does absolutely nothing for the rest of the individuals that the ordinance/statute/law discriminates against. One would think; That good politics recognizing such lawsuits would automatically intervene in the state in such cases and slap all of that down with a federal veto on whatever ordinances/statutes/laws that were enacted... But they don't.

'States Rights' is the excuse however; That requires a 2/3rd majority... When that 2/3rd majority isn't the rule of thumb to smack those illegal ordinances/statutes/laws down with a Federal veto? Then one can safely say corruption exists.

All people are represented by the Federal Constitution as "We the People"... Not all 'people' are represented by the 50 state constitutions; Hence why there is so much political turmoil.. As we the people in a given state? Are represented by the majority party thereof. When politics has spoken of minority? It means those in that jurisdiction are under represented in politics.

When one party represents the Republic and one party represents the Democracy and the 3rd tries to represent the perceived minority? Then it's business as usual.

a reply to: FarmerSimulation

Oversight on my part, I downloaded 3 and didn't pay close enough attention. I don't read Russian, and just wanted to post a pride thing in Russia. I can assure you I have a 2020 image.

Sorry?

Really, I feel bad, because statistically speaking, at least 15 million people just got told, "Its okay to be gay, but as soon as you make that part of you identity or celebrate it anywhere public, you're a terrorist"

Russians will comply. Well, almost all Russians will comply..

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: RussianTroll

So these are now illegal gatherings?

(2014)

(2020)

As illegal as this!

Lol. I didn't even know they came through. They are awesome. Get thrown in solitary for a month during a 2 year jail term, for protesting, and still on tour. That's some real protest courage. Especially with how, let's call it, murderous to his detractors, Putin is.

I think after this attack on LGBT rights, the black people in Russia should be really careful. All 12 of them. They're next.

Russian people hold no love for black people. They don't have a mixed society like we do. It's pretty uniformly pale over there.

originally posted by: Mahogani
I think after this attack on LGBT rights, the black people in Russia should be really careful. All 12 of them. They're next.

Russian people hold no love for black people. They don't have a mixed society like we do. It's pretty uniformly pale over there.

How does that relate to pro-family laws in Russia?
Or did you just make all that up from whole cloth?
Got a link?

And what do you have problems with white people about?
This sure sounds racist of you!

originally posted by: RussianTroll
Hello ATS!

Today, a meeting of the Supreme Court of Russia took place, which considered the claim of the Ministry of Justice to recognize the LGBT movement as extremist and to ban it in Russia. The Supreme Court satisfied the claim in full.

Accor ding to the Vedomosti newspaper,

“The Supreme Court granted the claim of the Ministry of Justice to recognize the LGBT movement as extremist and ban its activities in Russia, a Vedomosti correspondent reports. The court considered the claim without the participation of the defendant for three hours.

The hearing was held behind closed doors - without listeners and media representatives. Less than ten activists supporting the movement gathered near the Armed Forces building on Povarskaya Street in Moscow, without posters or symbols.

According to the decision of Judge Oleg Nefedov, structural divisions of the organization were also recognized as extremists and banned. The decision comes into force and is subject to execution immediately."

It is noted that the court decision will not affect the private life of Russians with non-traditional orientation.

Thank you!

It should be noted that the court decision was completely full of CRAP.

Police in Moscow targeted multiple gay-friendly nightclubs and a men's sauna in what appeared to be simultaneous raids, local media outlets said Saturday.

The raids come two days after Russia's Supreme Court labelled what it calls the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist", in a move rights groups warned could precede a wider crackdown.

Police could be seen standing at the entrance of a nightclub on Malaya Yakimanka Street, where a large dance party was taking place, video from the Ostorozhno Novosti news outlet showed.

a reply to: DoubleDNH

Probably, due to your youth, or you deliberately pretend that you do not understand the difference between privacy and public manifestation. You can do THIS at your home, at your friends' house, and so on. But doing this in a public place where anyone can go, even children, is a criminal offense in Russia.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: DoubleDNH

Probably, due to your youth, or you deliberately pretend that you do not understand the difference between privacy and public manifestation. You can do THIS at your home, at your friends' house, and so on. But doing this in a public place where anyone can go, even children, is a criminal offense in Russia.

“Protect the Children” has become so over used as an excuse it’s lost any validity it ever had.

Do you think LGBTQ+ families don’t exist?

Thus is about controlling people and denying freedom to be who you were born to be.

Pathetic that you believe and support the manipulation.

a reply to: Annee

I don’t know about you, but I will rip anyone’s throat out for my daughter and my grandson.

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Mahogani
I think after this attack on LGBT rights, the black people in Russia should be really careful. All 12 of them. They're next.

Russian people hold no love for black people. They don't have a mixed society like we do. It's pretty uniformly pale over there.

How does that relate to pro-family laws in Russia?
Or did you just make all that up from whole cloth?
Got a link?

And what do you have problems with white people about?
This sure sounds racist of you!

I'm just paying attention, buddy. You should also pay attention to what your boss does.

He just started raids to arrest the gay people. Link to ATS thread

Who do you want to be next? Do you have another group in mind after the gay people? If not black people, then who?

Knowing what we know about Putin and Putin's Russia, I stand by what I said. After the gay people, I think the black people are next.

How many black people are in Russia?

70,000 Afro-mixed people out of 144,000,000 people in Russia.

0.0004861% of the people in Russia are mixed Black.

They are DEFINITELY the next group Putin goes after, I believe.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Lot's of things are criminalized in Russia.
Like political opposition and dissent.

Political opponents are liquidated or imprisoned.

Balcony jumping is popular, too.

Tell me, what is the LBGT "organisation" that's been proscribed? Exactly?

Sounds like an excuse to persecute gay folk?

Which seems to be happening now.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Mahogani
I think after this attack on LGBT rights, the black people in Russia should be really careful. All 12 of them. They're next.

Russian people hold no love for black people. They don't have a mixed society like we do. It's pretty uniformly pale over there.

How does that relate to pro-family laws in Russia?
Or did you just make all that up from whole cloth?
Got a link?

And what do you have problems with white people about?
This sure sounds racist of you!

I'm just paying attention, buddy. You should also pay attention to what your boss does.

He just started raids to arrest the gay people. Link to ATS thread

Who do you want to be next? Do you have another group in mind after the gay people? If not black people, then who?

Knowing what we know about Putin and Putin's Russia, I stand by what I said. After the gay people, I think the black people are next.

How many black people are in Russia?

70,000 Afro-mixed people out of 144,000,000 people in Russia.

0.0004861% of the people in Russia are mixed Black.

They are DEFINITELY the next group Putin goes after, I believe.

Any Russian will simply die of laughter at your assumption.

Another question: if you voice such a narrative, then Russians should prepare for the emergence of movements and even demonstrations with funding from Western governments. Thanks for warning.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: Mahogani
I think after this attack on LGBT rights, the black people in Russia should be really careful. All 12 of them. They're next.

Russian people hold no love for black people. They don't have a mixed society like we do. It's pretty uniformly pale over there.

How does that relate to pro-family laws in Russia?
Or did you just make all that up from whole cloth?
Got a link?

And what do you have problems with white people about?
This sure sounds racist of you!

I'm just paying attention, buddy. You should also pay attention to what your boss does.

He just started raids to arrest the gay people. Link to ATS thread

Who do you want to be next? Do you have another group in mind after the gay people? If not black people, then who?

Knowing what we know about Putin and Putin's Russia, I stand by what I said. After the gay people, I think the black people are next.

How many black people are in Russia?

70,000 Afro-mixed people out of 144,000,000 people in Russia.

0.0004861% of the people in Russia are mixed Black.

They are DEFINITELY the next group Putin goes after, I believe.

Any Russian will simply die of laughter at your assumption.

Riiiiight!

Russians will die of laughter as minority groups get rounded up.

Proof of Putin's real plans

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Annee

I don’t know about you, but I will rip anyone’s throat out for my daughter and my grandson.

I’m 77. Raised 2 daughters. Helped raise a now adult grandson & granddaughter. Am raising my now 15 year old autistic grandson.

None of them have been harmed in anyway by the LGBTQ+ community — including transgenders and drag queens.

It’s bogus you are protecting children.

The children care if they have food, a place to sleep, someone who cares.

The children don’t give a crap if someone is LGBTQ+.

a reply to: Annee

I'm sorry that your descendants have autism. It's a pity. But in any case, you only have yourself to blame. For everything done in life you have to pay. It's cruel, but that's how the world works.

"It's a lie that you are protecting children."

And you try to come to us once again and do at least something for our children. Many came before you - from the Teutonic Knights to Hitler and Zelensky. Everything is rotting in our lands.

a reply to: RussianTroll

"I'm sorry that your descendants have autism. It's a pity. But in any case, you only have yourself to blame."

Really? How so?

Rather harsh. No?