"You took the same oath I took"

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We are starting to get some more backstory around Jan 6 and this in particular stands out from Pence's testimony and depositions, so far. VP Pence was going to sit out the congressional certification of the presidential election on January 6th, 2021, and wrote a note saying he would not go. The note is part of evidence. Chuck Grassley was going to step in and, we can only assume, go ahead with Trump's plans of illegal electors and votes.

But just prior to the date, Pence had a conversation with this son, a United States Marine, and after this conversation he changed his mind and decided to do what is right, attend, and call the right electors.

Ultimately, Pence told investigators he briefly accepted that he'd skip the certification on January 6 altogether. That is, until he spoke with his Marine son whilst vacationing in Colorado. ABC News said that during the trip, Lt. Michael J. Pence told his father, "You took the same oath I took."

The two of them, the younger Pence said, shared a commitment: "An oath to support and defend the Constitution."

That, based on what Pence told investigators, is the moment the vice president changed his mind and decided to attend the certification vote after all.

*bolding is mine*

And like that, all the plans were foiled from that one conversation between a Vice President and his son. I call that serendipity. Someone with more faith, more religious than I, might call this a miracle. An act of God.

Thank you Lt. Michael J. Pence, USMC.

originally posted by: Mahogani

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We are starting to get some more backstory around Jan 6 and this in particular stands out from Pence's testimony and depositions, so far. VP Pence was going to sit out the congressional certification of the presidential election on January 6th, 2021, and wrote a note saying he would not go. The note is part of evidence. Chuck Grassley was going to step in and, we can only assume, go ahead with Trump's plans of illegal electors and votes.

But just prior to the date, Pence had a conversation with this son, a United States Marine, and after this conversation he changed his mind and decided do what is right, attend and call the right electors.

Ultimately, Pence told investigators he briefly accepted that he'd skip the certification on January 6 altogether. That is, until he spoke with his Marine son whilst vacationing in Colorado. ABC News said that during the trip, Lt. Michael J. Pence told his father, "You took the same oath I took."

The two of them, the younger Pence said, shared a commitment: "An oath to support and defend the Constitution."

That, based on what Pence told investigators, is the moment the vice president changed his mind and decided to attend the certification vote after all.

*bolding is mine*

And like that, all the plans were foiled from that one conversation between a Vice President and his son. I call that serendipity. Someone with more faith, more religious than I, might call this a miracle. An act of God.

Thank you Lt. Michael J. Pence, USMC.

And all the aspen trees stood up and clapped, giving them both a standing ovation while 7 gilded bald eagles flew overhead. And Jesus descended from heaven on his harley made of lightning and angel wings, the one with the POW MIA sticker on the back. The one that when he revvs it up it screams YEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWW with the sound of a thousand cotton candy farts squeezing out archangel booties.

a reply to: Mahogani

The tips of my feelz are all a tingling.
Mike Pence, the new Leftist hero….who’d a thunk it?

originally posted by: MrGashler

originally posted by: Mahogani

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We are starting to get some more backstory around Jan 6 and this in particular stands out from Pence's testimony and depositions, so far. VP Pence was going to sit out the congressional certification of the presidential election on January 6th, 2021, and wrote a note saying he would not go. The note is part of evidence. Chuck Grassley was going to step in and, we can only assume, go ahead with Trump's plans of illegal electors and votes.

But just prior to the date, Pence had a conversation with this son, a United States Marine, and after this conversation he changed his mind and decided do what is right, attend and call the right electors.

Ultimately, Pence told investigators he briefly accepted that he'd skip the certification on January 6 altogether. That is, until he spoke with his Marine son whilst vacationing in Colorado. ABC News said that during the trip, Lt. Michael J. Pence told his father, "You took the same oath I took."

The two of them, the younger Pence said, shared a commitment: "An oath to support and defend the Constitution."

That, based on what Pence told investigators, is the moment the vice president changed his mind and decided to attend the certification vote after all.

*bolding is mine*

And like that, all the plans were foiled from that one conversation between a Vice President and his son. I call that serendipity. Someone with more faith, more religious than I, might call this a miracle. An act of God.

Thank you Lt. Michael J. Pence, USMC.

And all the aspen trees stood up and clapped, giving them both a standing ovation while 7 gilded bald eagles flew overhead. And Jesus descended from heaven on his harley made of lightning and angel wings, the one with the POW MIA sticker on the back. The one that when he revvs it up it screams YEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWW with the sound of a thousand cotton candy farts squeezing out archangel booties.

I get your gist, even though I am not religious.

This is just a great religious story, a parable almost, considering how religious the Pence family is. Imagine the amount of time he put into prayer in the days prior, asking for guidance and help from God. Likely hours in prayer every day.

And God answered his prayers and chose to work through his son.

Right or wrong at least he’s earned his balls by making a tough decision. A very small pair.

Either way he was going to get dragged hard.
Unfortunately it seems he thinks his oath has an expiration date, mine does not.
I’m glad he’s out of the race.
We need leaders in high offices, not these cya type politicos.

originally posted by: Mahogani
I get your gist, even though I am not religious.

This is just a great religious story, a parable almost, considering how religious the Pence family is. Imagine the amount of time he put into prayer in the days prior, asking for guidance and help from God. Likely hours in prayer every day.

And God answered his prayers and chose to work through his son.

I am not mocking any sort of religious connotations at all. I am mocking the story itself. This is an absolute f**king joke.

I'm not sure which hallmark movie he pulled this nonsense from, but he should've chosen one with much better writing.

a reply to: Mahogani

Trump's plans of illegal electors and votes.

Nice try. That's not a thing though.


Perhaps you're searching for the term "alternate electors?"

And like that, all the plans were foiled from that one conversation between a Vice President and his son.

The plans for ensuring elections are free, safe and transparent? Yea, those were definitely foiled.....again.

What has Mike Pence's son said? What has Chuck Grassley said?

Did he happen to say why he thought he might skip the certification? Because if he felt like the certification might be fraudulent, Wouldn't he ultimately be betraying his oath? Obviously the certification is a big deal, So why does the left wanna make it out like it's a rubber stamp?

...hypocrisy.

a reply to: RazorV66

MSNBC hates Conservatives, but they sure do like Mike Pence.

www.msnbc.com...

a reply to: Onthelowdown

Also, if the vice president as president of the senate is required to certify the vote comma does that ultimately mean that the executive branch has the powers to certify the vote? If so, would the legislative branch be required for confirming the Authenticity of the vote?
The fact that some state senates felt the need to select alternate Electors , Would mean that the authenticity of the electoral college vote might be in question. Did Mike Pence Commit treason?

a reply to: Mahogani

I'm confused.

I thought the leftists hated the Constitution, were ashamed of the flag, and hated patriotism.

Can someone forward me the memo?

originally posted by: JinMI
...hypocrisy.

Yeah the butt hurt, low IQ Dem supporters conveniently forgot about that eh?

It’s not even normal hypocrisy anymore, it’s just flat out lying about everything.
That’s what they do best.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: RazorV66

MSNBC hates Conservatives, but there sure do like Mike Pence.

www.msnbc.com...

MSNBC’s broadcasting license should be yanked.
They are America’s version of Baghdad Bob.

a reply to: RazorV66

And another abandoned thead to add to the pile.


Remarkable......?

" Imagine the amount of time he put into prayer in the days prior, asking for guidance and help from God. Likely hours in prayer every day.

And God answered his prayers and chose to work through his son."

Do you thank back in the day he spent the same amount of time in prayer and was answered by god who chose to work through the US bankruptcy court to solve the Pence brothers issues with Keil Bros. Oil company?

He probably thought that was a miracle too.

a reply to: Mahogani

I think the Military in general is extremely purposeful in their word choice, as were the framers of the nation.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

history.army.mil...

that was the one I took. And I'd wager you did as well if you served.

now here is the POTUS version:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

constitution.congress.gov...

Now if you can point to where the president swears to support, as the oath of enlistment does, I'll have learned something new. But if you can't, then technically Trump is right. It's dickish, but then, it's Trump, so forgive the lack of shock on my face.

Here's some more on this event, from another source, another story, but also came out today. I'll put it in here instead of a new topic.

Liz Cheney's new book came out today. This link has the whole story and goes over other parts of the book. Here is the pertinent part:

One of the most compelling parts of the book is Cheney’s account of the weeks leading up to the January 6 attack and growing fears that Trump was inciting his followers to violence.

Cheney discloses for the first time that on Jan. 4, she was accidentally included on a White House surrogate call. She was alarmed as she listened in as Trump’s allies detailed specific plans to try to overturn the election by getting then-Vice President Mike Pence to obstruct or delay the counting of electoral votes.

Cheney says she left the Capitol that night with “a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach” not sure if Pence would “withstand the pressure” from Trump. “I didn’t know if we could count on him,” Cheney writes, and discloses that former House Speaker Paul Ryan also had doubts about Pence.

In a text message shortly after midnight on January 5, Ryan wrote to Cheney, “I worry he breaks but think he will not.”

The morning of Jan. 6, Cheney’s father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, called her after Trump said in his speech on the Ellipse that the crowd should get rid of “the Liz Cheneys of the world.”

“You are in danger,” he told her, cautioning her about speaking on the House floor that day.

They really, really wanted Pence to comply and go along, or sit out at least. His part was essential to their plans.

And then a Marine son gives just the right advice, at just the right time.

a reply to: Mahogani

That moment you rely on Pence and a pair of Cheneys to bolster your arguments and positions...


...and entirely without irony.