Pope Francis’ goal is to destroy the Catholic Church

Pope Francis goal is to destroy the Catholic Church. I'm sure some will say 'good', but that's not his only goal. "Pope Francis" ... really Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina. He is an anti-American, anti-free-market, anti-border, New World Order, One World Church, marxist mess who wants to destroy the Catholic Church, and the world for that matter, and turn it into his vision of what the Earth should be ... and surprise ... it's not Catholic and it's not free.


"Pope Francis" entered into 'dialog' with the CCP (Communist China), and they came up with a secret deal for the Catholic Church to function in Communist China. The exact details are kept secret but some of what is known is that bishops and priests in China who do not swear an oath to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) have been arrested and even tortured since the deal. Other priests have been expelled from their ministry. Statues and crucifixes in churches are being replaced with pictures of Chinese dictator Xi Jinping. All this undermining the Catholic faith, and God only knows what the secret part of the deal does. This is known to "Pope Francis" and yet the deal with Communist China stands.

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Yore said that Pope Francis is persecuting traditional, conservative Catholics and ‘wants to create a New World Order church’ and a ‘one-world religion’ through the Synod on Synodality.

Attorney Liz Yore declared on Saturday that Pope Francis is trying to “destroy the Catholic Church,” citing the sacking of Bishop Joseph Strickland, the targeting of traditional Catholics, and the betrayal of Chinese Catholics as steps towards this goal. On Steve Bannon’s show War Room, Yore discussed the Vatican’s persecution of Catholics in both the U.S., where traditional Catholics in particular are being targeted, and China, where Catholics are being driven further underground by the Vatican-China deal, according to Yore.

“They’re very threatened by the traditional, conservative Catholics who are calling out the terrible, terrible deal that Francis negotiated at the hands of his serial global predator Ted McCarrick,” Yore told Bannon. Yore highlighted the article “Pope Xi” by Nina Shea, which Yore said shows that the “disastrous” secretive Vatican-China deal initiated in 2018 “has absolutely destroyed the faithful Catholic Church in China

Then we have 'Pope Francis' going after Traditional and conservative Catholics. He is suppressing the traditional Latin mass and interjecting far left politics into the Novus Ordo Mass (New Order of the Mass). He has sacked the bishops that adhere to actual Catholicism and who call 'Pope Francis' out when he goes off course from Catholicism - which is often.

CNN - Read More on that here

In Synod, instead of discussing faith and religious matters, far left New World Order politics are discussed - 'climate change', LGBT, radical ideology, migration' etc. "Pope Francis" has openly called for no-borders for countries and wide open immigration, which of course would destroy the countries being overrun and turn everyplace into a third world order crap hole. Looks like he's all for equality ... drag everyone down to the lowest common level possible. He has also been very vocal about his disdain for the free market and he shows favoritism towards marxists and communists. He has also called for a new world wide tax to be placed on productive countries so that wealth redistribution can be made to poor countries ... with all that wealth being managed by the Catholic Church, of course. And he has called tax cuts for wealthy people 'sin'. He LIKES taxes and considered it to be wealth redistribution. He's a marxist who refuses to call himself one.

Reuters - Pope Francis Free Market Remarks
Pope Francis Tax cuts Statement
Pope Francis Blesses Tax Collectors

Francis stated in the Abu Dhabi Declaration that God “wills” a “pluralism and diversity” of religions. He says God wants different religions which shows a severe lack of faith in what is supposed to be his own religion. And theologically, that makes no sense. Why would God want people believing contradictory things about Him?

And then there is the fact that he promoted within the clergy hierarchy, those who helped him be elected pope, and that includes PEDOPHILES. He protected them because they helped him to get the job of pope.

The Case Against Pope Francis - read here

"Pope Francis" also hates Americans. He wants a weak and failing, wide open border, America. He famously said that he feels 'honored' when Americans say they don't like him. He has also called American Catholics 'backwards'. His arrogance is astounding.

National Catholic Register - Pope honored to be criticized by Americans
Guardian - Pope Calls American Catholics Backwards.

So apparently it's true....all roads do lead to Rome...


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The guy is evil plain and simple, obvious to me , not my mom who thinks she will be whipped in hell if she doesn't adhere to praying/going to church etc. There's no hope for some.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Yeah.... Pope Fancis also shamed me (and young people everywhere) for not reproducing and having pets instead.

He is out of touch and going a bit wacky with his worldly suggestions. And when wealth distribution comes up across obliterated borders, you really are suggesting A Communist New World Order, but...

The Vatican had an operating revenue of 35 million in 2022, earmarked the revenue for future operating budget, and currently sits on assets, including over 5000 properties of real estate that totals over 5 billion (€4 billion) in value.

www.investopedia.com...

They invest donations and admission fees in stocks, bonds, and real estate, and on occasion:

The Vatican Bank has been at the center of numerous financial scandals, which has prompted Pope Francis to institute reforms that provide financial accountability and transparency

Communism: They're doing it wrong.

a reply to: FlyersFan

It's certainly not the first time a pope has entertained and courted a communist dictator. Hitler, Mussolini, etc, so the new pope buddying up to Xi to make sure the Catholic church is viable and useful to China comes as no shock.

a reply to: FlyersFan

You can destroy all the churches in the world, ban symbols of the churches, but you can never destroy faith unless you destroy the people.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Franky is an agent who is playing at being the Pope.

My 'theory' is some people got pissed when JP2 was the Pope and decided to wreak havoc on the faithful.

Cheers

originally posted by: DBCowboy
You can destroy all the churches in the world, ban symbols of the churches, but you can never destroy faith unless you destroy the people.

You can destroy the faith if you destroy the ability to teach and practice it.

a reply to: FlyersFan

What was the first clue? This guy is the "Black Pope." The jesuit everyone has been warned about. He's worse than ratzinger or whatever the last clowns name was. However, when you think about it, the whole catholic church was built on lies anyway. The plagiarized and appropriated christianity, turned it into pagan idol worship complete with monetary and verbalized "fines" for alleged "sins." The whole catholic thing is a joke, largest land owners next to the monarchy clown world. It's interesting that Malachi predicted this pope would be the last and that Nostradamus predicted he would destroy the church and then be hunted down and executed outside of italy. Who knows eh... Maybe Apophis will drop on the old pervert in the Aegean Sea in 2028?

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: FlyersFan

His support has steadily been dropping with conservative Americans, but is staying strong overall. He's a pretty popular Pope, very much so with American Catholics -- the second largest Christian denomination is the US.

His overall support in America has dropped from 76% in 2014 to 59% today. That's overall how America looks at him, 6 out of 10 people like him, regardless of their religion.

The reason he's losing ground among the conservatives is most likely due to his renewed push into income inequality and climate change.

Gallup

a reply to: FlyersFan

I don't think he has an agenda to destroy Catholicism, rather he's irresponsible and out of touch with reality when it comes to his public statements. For me, he lost the last remaining shreds of credibility when he started kissing Putin's butt. Putin didn't seem to return the favor... Oh well, Hitler had his pope too; weak, wishy-washy lukewarm Pius XII, who shared his cowardice with Pope Francis.

He didn't though contribute to the persecution of Christianity in China. I remember reading some time ago about all the tribulations of the Catholic Church in China. Perhaps, he wants to help in his feeble clumsy way. It will all be at the cost of compromising the Christian values.

But whatever, Christianity stopped being the powerful voice of dissent when it took over Rome. It's no longer not of this world. Heroism largely gone.

The good new is Francis isn't likely to be pope for much longer, due to age/health.

The bad news is he's been pope long enough to thoroughly align the College of Cardinals, so we'll see who and what his successor will be.

Imagine if the US had a system where the president chose Congress, who in turn chose the president! Yeah. Afraid what Francis has done is mere groundwork for what's to come.

originally posted by: gb540
Imagine if the US had a system where the president chose Congress, who in turn chose the president! Yeah. Afraid what Francis has done is mere groundwork for what's to come.

Yes, we are a democracy, not a theocracy.

The Vatican is a theocracy. They believe the Pope is directly chosen by God, ordained by Him. His will and wishes go directly through the Pope.

That's quite different from a democracy. Plus we have rail-guards in our US Constitution to prevent those kinds of things from happening. And the separation of church and state.

Just stating the obvious, not really directed at you.

a reply to: FlyersFan

But the Pope is infallible, and the voice of Christ on earth. It is not possible for the Pope to be wrong, unless much of what the Catholic Church is based on is BS.
You don't need anyone else to speak to Jesus Christ, He want's a personal relationship with those that follow Him.
Do you really want these entities to play intermediary to Jesus Christ?

Pray for discernment

The entities ruling the Catholic Church are evil.

I am not saying all Catholics are evil or that Catholics can't be followers of Christ, I know some great Christians that are Catholic.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Yep , and he Also Voted for Joe Biden just to Piss the Lord Off even More..............

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Statues and crucifixes in churches are being replaced with pictures of Chinese dictator Xi Jinping.

Nothing new under the sun (Eccl 1:9). This is from 1977:

Only a few Roman Catholic priests still function in the People’s Republic of China, according to the Washington Post. And the few existing Catholic Church congregations “are made up of a dwindling number of elderly believers.” Priest Fu Tin-shan of Peking said that Peking’s Catholic clergy approve of divorce and abortion and believe that the Vatican “has always been a tool of imperialism.” According to the Washington Post, Mao Tse-tung and the Communist Party “scored more points than God” in Fu’s explanation of Chinese Catholic theology.

From 1981:

A recent dispatch from Shanghai claims that religion is thriving. At Holy Mary, Mother of God Cathedral, Mass is celebrated five times every Sunday and hundreds of Chinese Catholics attend each Mass. But there is a hitch: The Chinese Church does not accept the authority of the Vatican or the pope; and neither does Rome recognize the bishops and priests appointed by the hierarchy in China since the Church reopened. Ignoring Vatican Council II, Chinese priests still sing Mass in Latin.

“The Vatican does not allow us to love our country,” said priest Sheng Pao-tse of the Shanghai cathedral, which operates under the China Patriotic Catholic Association. The objective of the Association is to “help the Government implement the policy of religious freedom and . . . unite all prelates and believers in the spirit of patriotism.” Clergyman Sheng claims the Vatican has urged Catholics in China, estimated at about three million, not to go to church but to worship in private.

In fact, The Encyclopedia of Religion says that patriotism’s cousin, nationalism, “has become a dominant form of religion in the modern world, preempting a void left by the deterioration of traditional religious values.”

From 1984:

“The Vatican has become increasingly concerned about what it sees as efforts by some governments to alienate Roman Catholics from loyalty to the church,” reports the International Herald Tribune of Paris. According to the report, the pope is “deeply concerned” about the status of the Roman Catholic Church in China because the “only legal worship is in churches that are controlled by what is known as the Patriotic Church, run by ordained priests who have openly rejected papal authority and reject everything that the Vatican has done since 1949.” The article mentions China, Vietnam, Czechoslovakia and Albania and quotes the pope as saying: “They try to create a church cut off from the Apostolic See . . . making them believe that they can continue to practice their faith in full independence.”

The Church in Russia and China has been reduced to a compliant handmaiden (of the state).

Haven't been on ATS in a while (had to create a new account) but I'm shocked to see its become pro-Catholic. What the hell happened???

originally posted by: Mahogani
He's a pretty popular Pope, very much so with American Catholics...[/url]

Every catholic I know can't stand the guy.
That's anecdotal ... but there it is.

originally posted by: stosh64
But the Pope is infallible, and the voice of Christ on earth. It is not possible for the Pope to be wrong,

That's not what the 'infallible' teaching means. It means he can not commit an error when speaking on matters of theology 'ex cathedra' (from the chair of Peter). As a human being he most certainly can be wrong and his opinions can be wrong. The pope goes to confession and makes daily errors just like any other Catholic.

The infallible interpretation of scripture comes from Matthew 16:18-19 where Jesus tells Peter he is the rock on which He will build His church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. If the church teaches error, then Hell will have prevailed against the church.

a reply to: FlyersFan

That's not what the 'infallible' teaching means. It means he can not commit an error when speaking on matters of theology 'ex cathedra' (from the chair of Peter). As a human being he most certainly can be wrong and his opinions can be wrong. The pope goes to confession and makes daily errors just like any other Catholic.

That's a nice, vague, loophole, created by a fallible man.

Psalms 118:8-9 - It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Matthew 15:9 - But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Look, imho, none of us KNOWS, we are all fallible. I pray for everyone to know the peace of following Christ, repent for their sins(yes, we all sin) and study their Bible to strive to be more Christ like. To me it is a very personal relationship that I need no other man involved in. You do you. I pray you are happy.
Have a Blessed Day