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If UFOs do not appear to be alien so what are they?

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posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

There is no space or time. It's all relative.✌️



posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 07:08 AM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger



There is no space or time. It's all relative


So have you found a boundary of it? I know having ones bones shattered provides a relative reference on time and space.



posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 07:14 AM
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What’s one shape or object that hasn’t changed from the beginning of human records? The ball of light?

Seems from the 40’s onward the shape of the craft changed, every ten years it became “ the flavor of the month” flying saucers to, huge cigars then to todays small tic-tac, etc. etc.



posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 07:15 AM
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I am curious, would this allow them, to traverse at the speed of the universe so, if they were stopped dead in a point of the universe, from our perspective it would look like they were traveling at the speed of earth's rotation?


Not quite sure what you mean by the speed of the universe.

Far as im aware the universe doesn't have a speed in the way individual objects might.

The cosmic background radiation suggests that our universe is expanding at the rate of about 41.9 miles, per second, per megaparsec, which is a distance equal to about 3.26 million light-years.

And our Earth orbits the star at an average speed of about 67,000 mph with her rotation amounting to about 1,037 mph.
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posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: djz3ro

Aliens ... maybe

Something definitely
but no clue as to what that something is.

There's more to heaven and earth Horatio ...................



posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 11:58 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


They are what they're not. So list everything they're not, and somewhere beyond that is what they are. Which leads to further confusion because what that leaves us with is the human compulsion to label things. So we end up with ghosts, gremlins, demons, goblins, skinwalkers, interdimensional entities, future us... none of which provides any clarity. The language fails us. My main man Wittgenstein has a lot to say about this condition. Google up Wittgenstein quotes on language for some background. That won't give any specific answers other than why there aren't satisfactory answers and may never be. IMO.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: 38181
What’s one shape or object that hasn’t changed from the beginning of human records? The ball of light?

Seems from the 40’s onward the shape of the craft changed, every ten years it became “ the flavor of the month” flying saucers to, huge cigars then to todays small tic-tac, etc. etc.



1890s had cigar-shaped airships.
1950s had silvery aerodynamic craft.
as you say, we've had tic-tacs and triangles and blobs.

anyone remember the Far Side cartoon with the 'Time Log'?

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posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: kwaka

The human body has a time, the spirit does not. There are no boundaries. I know. The only boundaries of spirit are the ones you place on yours..

God Bless

47- years Transcendental Mediation
30- years Astral Projection
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posted on Nov, 24 2023 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: kwaka

And it's suggested the limits or edges you seek are the doors and exits of the soul. Always there. Like a box.

We are that box...



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 10:21 AM
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I agree, It`s very likely that we can`t understand every law in physics, nature and universe. Like an ant could not understand for example the concept of a skyscraper. I am also interested of synchronicities and coincidences that are against all the odds. Those happen to me all the time.



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: djz3ro

They are from Antarctica...



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger




Dude abides ......



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: Kenzo

I watched The Big Lebowski last night.



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: malte86
a reply to: djz3ro

or its all just our imagination. in the past ufos looked like tin saucers with time they became more modern. it depends on the zeitgeist what ufos are i guess.


They've been pretty uniform throughout history actually. Plenty of saucers, cigar shapes and others in art books and manuscripts, paintings etc.

The most common sighting through history has been the silver metallic orb. In modern times, the most common report being made is also the small metallic orb. The military mostly encounters small orbs and the ones it has caught on camera has been mostly orbs. Airline pilots report orbs.

As a tribute to how often these orbs have appeared through history and as tribute to the thousands and thousands of reports of these they get, the new UFO agency for tracking aerial phenomena even included that orb in their patch, their logo.



All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office

They're drones. Remote controlled drones. And since they are all-medium and go into water and back into air, I think they use water to re-fuel. Hydrogen. It's everywhere, all over the universe, it's the ultimate fuel source.


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posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake


There is religion, philosophy called dudeism



The Church of the Latter-Day Dude


They may take it more easy than other churches out there



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: Coelacanth55
demonic entities distracting humanity.

John Keel referred to 'games nonhumans play'.

all bait and switch, no payoff.
accounts of 'aliens' promising future meetings or revelations that never happen(ed).


NOPE. demons are not allowed out of hell until the end,and its not time yet. Sure possesion is possible,but thats not really their body either.



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 03:54 PM
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Just for argument's sake.

Prisoners are not allowed out of prison until they finish their sentences.

Nonetheless, it does not stop them from escaping on occasion.

Incarceration does not exactly breed compliance after all.



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 04:25 PM
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posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: Coelacanth55

Yes, this is it.



posted on Nov, 25 2023 @ 05:21 PM
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a reply to: djz3ro

The term "alien" has a relatively broad definition, meaning an individual from outside your defined area of space and time. This could be an individual or entity from outside your country, your planet, or perhaps it could apply to an entity from beyond your time and dimension.

I subscribe to the belief of intelligence "life" outside of our immediate perception. Though, I do find life from beyond our planet just as likely as well.



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