If UFOs do not appear to be alien so what are they?

Didn't put this in the ET thread because that's not what is being discussed.

There's no denying (unless you're the English speaking MSM) that something huge is going on when it comes to the UAP/UFO phonomena. Groups of unidentified white orbs have been filmed moving in formation, not only all over the USA but the world over, much like the Phoenix Lights.

The Tic-Tac UFO, as it has been come to know today, matches the reports of cigar shaped craft and propane gas tank UFO's that have been described by pilots since they first took to the skies, as do the reports of flying cubes within translucent spheres. These are transmedium and can fly from space, to the atmosphere and to water and back again as if it were all the same. (I am curious, would this allow them, to traverse at the speed of the universe so, if they were stopped dead in a point of the universe, from our perspective it would look like they were traveling at the speed of earth's rotation?)

If this is true and not something akin to Project Blue Beam, it potentially links UFO's, "Alien" Abduction, Humanity's origin, Religion, Near Death Experiences, Consciousness, Meditation, Hallucinogenics, Pyramids and even freakin' Skinwalker Ranch! Not to mention Mr. Blink-182 himself, Tom DeLonge has claimed that it goes back to the Greek God
So what the hell is going on?

I think most of us will agree that "not alien" would mean Time Travel and/or Interdimensional Travel but how would that tie in to Greek Gods? Some of it ties in to a possible Breeding/Genetic Program, perhaps Future Humans trying to save themselves from the falling male sperm count or nuclear annihilation. But then there's so much other stuff that doesn't tie in with that.

I want to hear what you have to say ATS. Do you think this is happening because plausible deniability is no longer feasible? Or is something big happening, outwith governments or even elites control that will reveal to us all that reality isn't what we think it is? Are we in a simulation and the UAP's are the avatars of the programmers? Are they worried we will turn Earth into an uninhabitable wasteland or are they set to conquer?

demonic entities distracting humanity.

John Keel referred to 'games nonhumans play'.

all bait and switch, no payoff.
accounts of 'aliens' promising future meetings or revelations that never happen(ed).

a reply to: Coelacanth55

I'm afraid I think interdimensional beings or time travellers are infinitely more plausible than Demons and Angels. I think we may be dealing with the entities that are written about as if they were god's though.

a reply to: djz3ro

My opinion is that reality that we see is not what we think it is. Whether that means simulation or just all the theories about the universe and space and time are wrong, i don't know. I have never seen any UFOs myself but I have had some very very strange synchronicities and so called coincidences happen to me and also experienced very frequent deja vu feelings. One of my friends did see a cube shaped UFO that appeared to be very reflective like it reflected the clouds and sky off of it so it was hard to see with the naked eye but she said it was pretty obviously a perfect cube just flying through the sky but when she went to take a video, she could see it on the screen while she was recording but afterward on replay we couldn't see it at all.

The cosmos is much more complex than we imagine. In fact it's more complex than we CAN imagine.

It's my belief that the interdimensional beings are of the angelic type (fallen and not). The fallen were the gods of ancient times. This is the reason I have stopped researching the UFO thing. I don't see them coming to help or be your friend.

a reply to: djz3ro

Multidimensional random garbage moving past our dimensions.

a reply to: djz3ro

I wonder if they come from within the planet. Religion tells us hell is below, which could very well be a deterrent to look.

I have also wondered if we are not the first line of defense for something under us. An exterior threat would see us and either decide we are too violent, and move along, or if they decided to attack, they would then be overwhelmed by the presence underground they did not prepare for.

This is something I have been thinking about a lot. Back in the 90's I saw a cigar shaped craft from the cockpit of an airplane. It was daylight, we were at cruising altitude (30,000 ft) and the craft we saw was unmistakably large and very obvious in the sky. So if this is government or some private company's tech, its been around for a long time. I don't rule that possibility out but I lean more.toward inter dimensional or at least something that lives among us that we normally can't perceive with our limited senses. Whatever it is, I'm glad to see more people taking g a.serious interest.

No offense, but what the heck is that OP? English is second language or just poorly written? Way too all over the place with not posting in correct forum, pyramids, time travel and Greek God's, etc...

Your OP has nothing to do with your thread title, if UFOs don't APPEAR to be alien.....but you never mentioned once HOW they don't APPEAR to be alien!! Seriously. Shm

a reply to: sendhelp

let me rephrase. "It don't look like UFOs be aliens. So what do they be if not aliens?"

hope that's better.

a reply to: djz3ro

Demons, aliens, who cares, the intent and agenda is concerning. Watch "Childhood's End," it's a 3 part mini-series and be careful what you wish for ;-) World peace, can simply mean no more people or no more world.

Cheers - Dave

A lot of nonsense around all of this. They’re from here, clearly. Hunan? No. One of the reasons THEY don’t want to tell us. We’re not the masters of this planet.

I’ve always said that these ‘alien’ craft are from nearer to home, much nearer. Seems like either visitors or a precursor civilisation still exists somewhere on or in the planet. My guess is likely the sea floor - out of the way. Far easier to hide.

Sad thing is that even they are only vaguely interested in us. Imagine how disinterested aliens would truly be.

I just don’t see travel around even a galaxy az something achievable. We can look but we ain’t never going to touch. Probably a good thing.

If they are time travelers, humans, and if they made any changes here - whose timeline would they be changing?

Their timeline has already happened, right? If they changed anything they would be creating an alternate timeline, separate from theirs.

Because of this reason, if they are time travelers, I think they are only observers. Observers of their own timeline. Historians.

As for inter-dimensional beings. Who the heck knows. With our current knowledge of how everything works and the ideas about extra dimensions, I think it's easier to think they came from another star system than from another dimension.

a reply to: djz3ro

or its all just our imagination. in the past ufos looked like tin saucers with time they became more modern. it depends on the zeitgeist what ufos are i guess.

originally posted by: malte86
a reply to: djz3ro

or its all just our imagination. in the past ufos looked like tin saucers with time they became more modern. it depends on the zeitgeist what ufos are i guess.

Excellent observation. I absolutely agree.

a reply to: djz3ro

Considering that Modern Man has been around since about 200,000 Years Ago , don't you think the Possibility of some Ancient Civilization developing some form of Craft capable of Artificial Flight would have been Invented ? I think that Possibility is more Probable than Off World Alien Visitations .

a reply to: djz3ro

Us. From the future...

And if aliens are here and have been for millennium...then they really aren't aliens right?

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: djz3ro

Us. From the future...

And if aliens are here and have been for millennium...then they really aren't aliens right?

Could be we know absolutely nothing about space time and we think we do.

Well, what comes to my mind is the "UFO" and the "aliens" have been with us for thousands of years at least. Not all of them quite probably, but some.

That is of course when one puts aside the home grown "UFOs". Secret skunkworks projects and that sort of stuff.

I'll just put it on the table:

A thousand years ago the western church demonised the fae and the fairy folk. They did it from the pulpit and the inquisitions.

The people were taught that to see or hear unseen Beings was the work of the devil. That unseen Beings are demons.

The people turned upon each other while the churchmen wined and dined. "The madness of the church" is what the unseen folk call it.

The message sent by the church to the fae was very clear: We cannot harm you, but we can destroy those things you hold dear.

For the unseen folk to approach a human child or young woman risked dire consequences. They risked an innocent party's torture and death.

So the fairy, Nature Spirits and many other unseen folk simply withdrew.

With the decline of the church, and the arrival of science, nothing changed. To see the ordinarily intangible and to hear them was instead labelled mental illness.

So the fairy and other folk took a different way to maintain contact with humanity. Call it abduction if you wish, but it had to be hidden for obvious reasons. You see, in this day and age, to be a seer is very dangerous. Your fellow man will still set upon you still and find you "help" whether you need help or not.

What we call the "UFO and aliens" today, is yesterday's fairy and similar folk. They have simply adapted to the times.