'We Are Too Humane. Burn Gaza Now' Says Senior Israeli Lawmaker

a reply to: quintessentone

I am now hearing on Oct. 7th Israel sent 28 Apache helicopters with order to shoot at everything.....

And where did you 'hear' that from?

.......what weapons Hamas were carrying and Hamas' weapons were not able to do that much damage.

What weapons were Hamas 'carrying'?
Where did you 'hear' that from?

Just more of the same old same old, trying to exonerate Hamas of all blame and responsibility and lay everything at Israel's feet.

If it wasn't so predictable and I'd say its shameful.....but its past that, tedious and nauseatingly contemptuous.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

I am now hearing on Oct. 7th Israel sent 28 Apache helicopters with order to shoot at everything.....

And where did you 'hear' that from?

.......what weapons Hamas were carrying and Hamas' weapons were not able to do that much damage.

What weapons were Hamas 'carrying'?
Where did you 'hear' that from?

Just more of the same old same old, trying to exonerate Hamas of all blame and responsibility and lay everything at Israel's feet.

If it wasn't so predictable and I'd say its shameful.....but its past that, tedious and nauseatingly contemptuous.

I am not exonerating Hamas of anything, I am relaying from those reporters on independent stations who watched Hamas coming through the gate and scrutinizing their weapons and numbers as well as IDF Soldiers and the Apache helicopter footage.

What's shameful and nauseating is people like you not putting the blame where the blame is due, that being both factions through mutual massacres over the last ... forever.

a reply to: quintessentone

So, again....Where did you 'hear' that from?

Certainly seems to me that you are persistently trying your best to exonerate Hamas from as much of the blame as possible and lay as much of the blame that you can on Israel.

You've been doing it since October 7th.

Just my opinion.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SourGrapes

You may want to take a look at Mrs Suzanne Weiss who is a Holocaust survivor and she has also called for a ceasefire after criticising Israel heavily arguing that Israel has turned Gaza into a death camp. It's really damning when Jewish people say the truth about the State of Israel and how it has treated Palestinians so far over a number of decades.

Then compare her words and position with what the Israeli Politician said and his incitement to genocide. Two completely different things. One is a credible and valid position by a Holocaust survivor and the other the genocidal approach by a extreme right wing fascistoid-lunatic who has been unfortunately elected by some other Israeli lunatics.

If, as you say, tens of thousands of "innocent children " are killed or missing, where are all the posters and pleas from parents?

Make sure you have the latest updates and try not to play it dumb so to downplay or try to dismiss the number of deaths

Here is the latest upgrade

amp.theguardian.com...

According to the independent Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, which is chaired by US emeritus law professor and former UN special rapporteur on Palestine, Richard Falk, the civilian death toll as of 20 November is 16,413, with nearly 34,000 injured. This would mean one in every 142 Palestinian civilians killed in a month and a half.

The deaths and injuries are going to be the subject of the ICC by the way.

I hope during this truce independent journalists will be able to go into Gaza, the West Bank and the tent city to find out more about the true level of destruction and lift the veil of any propaganda we have have been fed so far.

That's a concern for the security forces as everyone would be able to witness the destruction and carnage caused by the IDF. Similar to what this guy said should happen to Gaza.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Top tip! Did you know that you can copy and paste things that you have previously posted rather than type them over and over again?

Oh...wait....

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Top tip! Did you know that you can copy and paste things that you have previously posted rather than type them over and over again?

Oh...wait....

It's a necessity here because of all the derailing and deflection.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

So, again....Where did you 'hear' that from?

Certainly seems to me that you are persistently trying your best to exonerate Hamas from as much of the blame as possible and lay as much of the blame that you can on Israel.

You've been doing it since October 7th.

Just my opinion.

I reply directly to Lev now because he views similar sources and we have both deemed those sources to be properly investigated and reported whereas IDF sources are questionable actually mostly due to it not hitting any common sense bells with me in many instances.

Most pro-Israel members here refuse to accept anything other than the propaganda narrative from one source, that being the IDF. Lev and I are seeking other investigative reporting from many different sources that are deemed credible if only using one's common sense.

For all the sensationalism surrounding the events of Oct. 7, when Hamas broke through the Gaza fence and seized territory in the Gaza Envelope as part of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, there is still much that we do not know. The official Israeli death toll from the attack is estimated at 1,200 civilians, revised from an initial estimate of 1,400. Among this figure are several hundred civilians, which Israel says were killed by Hamas militants. Other testimony from survivors of Oct. 7 suggests an alternative explanation—that in its fervor to defeat Hamas, Israeli commanders may have willingly targeted and sacrificed Israeli soldiers and civilians in the crossfire. Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone joins The Chris Hedges Report for an in-depth look.

NOTE: At the 10:06 mark he states Hamas forces left at 10:30 a.m.



If you still don't believe, then research testimonies from Oct. 7th survivors, they will relay the same realities, which BTW you won't find on Western Media or Israeli media who have narratives and/or propaganda to push because....investors.

a reply to: quintessentone

"I report directly to Lev now...."

Fixed for ya!

a reply to: DBCowboy

Does every person who is being killed by Israel have the ability to let the hostages go?

Did each one of the thousands of children killed by Israel know the location and have the keys?

You are doing what every genocide supporter has done through out history...

You point to bad acts of a few members as justification for killing all.

Your technique of keep pointing out the acts of a few to justify killing children is getting old and it seems to be backfiring in terms of public opinion.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

"I report directly to Lev now...."

Fixed for ya!

It's nice to discuss truths with like-minded and like-self-researcher people. You should try it some time.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

Tell ya what, mein uberstrussel, If, IF, the palestinians start returning all, and I mean ALL hostages back unharmed, then I will join you in asking for an extended cease-fire.

Sound fair to you?

Tell ya what, if IF, Israel only kills people who have the physical ability to return even ONE hostage, then I will join in you supporting Israel's actions.

Sound fair to you?

a reply to: quintessentone

There are like minded folks, and then there is a back slapping self congratulatory echo chamber.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Top tip! Did you know that you can copy and paste things that you have previously posted rather than type them over and over again?

Oh...wait....

It's a necessity here because of all the derailing and deflection.

Well done for pointing the obvious!
There is a tendency to derail or go off topic so we need to stay on topic and the good posts shouldn't disappear.

Imagine what is to claim they Gaza should be burnt and then asking for understanding and compassion from the International Community or even the ICC

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

There are like minded folks, and then there is a back slapping self congratulatory echo chamber.

You know best about that, care to teach us about it?

a reply to: quintessentone

TRNN - The Real News Network.
Max Blumenthal.

Hardly independent are they.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

TRNN - The Real News Network.
Max Blumenthal.

Hardly independent are they.

See now how did I know that would be your reply? I'll give you one guess.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Top tip! Did you know that you can copy and paste things that you have previously posted rather than type them over and over again?

Oh...wait....

It's a necessity here because of all the derailing and deflection.

Well done for pointing the obvious!
There is a tendency to derail or go off topic so we need to stay on topic and the good posts shouldn't disappear.

Imagine what is to claim they Gaza should be burnt and then asking for understanding and compassion from the International Community or even the ICC

That's all they have is to derail, deflect and insult or put up IDF propaganda and try to pass it off as evidence. Something smells bad, smell it Lev? FAIL smell test.

a reply to: quintessentone

Oh dear. Insults? You got em.

More irony.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

I am now hearing on Oct. 7th Israel sent 28 Apache helicopters with order to shoot at everything.....

And where did you 'hear' that from?

.......what weapons Hamas were carrying and Hamas' weapons were not able to do that much damage.

What weapons were Hamas 'carrying'?
Where did you 'hear' that from?

Just more of the same old same old, trying to exonerate Hamas of all blame and responsibility and lay everything at Israel's feet.

If it wasn't so predictable and I'd say its shameful.....but its past that, tedious and nauseatingly contemptuous.

Imagine what is to argue that Gaza should be burnt?!

Do you agree with this ultra right wing fascistoid? I suppose you're not and no sane person will agree with the genocide and absolute destruction.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

Oh dear. Insults? You got em.

More irony.

You don't need to burn Gaza to have a huge death toll. Even now the death toll is huge and only in 6 weeks into this conflict.

According to the independent Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, which is chaired by US emeritus law professor and former UN special rapporteur on Palestine, Richard Falk, the civilian death toll as of 20 November is 16,413, with nearly 34,000 injured. This would mean one in every 142 Palestinian civilians killed in a month and a half.

amp.theguardian.com...