Army asks those kicked out for not taking the jab to come back

a reply to: StudioNada

i was a clerk-typist for 3 years, at a CE Battalion HQs ... usually the Discharges for not doing as Ordered, results in Not Eligible to Re-Enlist 'code' --> RE3

Their RE# would be amended along with the discharge type I assume.

a reply to: network dude

This is a lesson for the young folks. They are very hard headed and don’t want to listen, but please do.

Remember nobody can force you to do something you don’t want to do.
(Short of putting you in jail/prison)

SURE you can be laid off, fired etc. That is an effect to a choice, your choice.
Covid vaccine is an extreme example, but there are many micro examples on a daily basis.
You don’t have to have the newest cell phone and be in debt etc.
You don’t have to drive a fancy car, a medium priced car, or a car at all.
Choices, many many choices.

Also remember your employer NEVER has your best interest in mind, they have their bottom line in mind, period.

The Military should just make a really cool game called 'Current War Plus Plus' or something.
Make it the best FPS game ever made and available on every gaming platform and online on all operating systems. Have it even give you cash prizes for accomplishing goals.

All the while this is connected to actual combat drones and droids that the users are unknowingly operating.

Current War ++

idk, maybe?

I mean, you could even blow up your own house in this game and not even know it until it is too late. crazy

a reply to: network dude

This has to prove just how desperate they really are. It is also an indicator of how bad it is in other sectors. They have already dropped the heart health requirement for commercial pilots. In the end, you have to use the labor pool available, even if that means dropping the health and IQ requirements. At some point, it will be non-cost-effective. The reality is going to be a game changer, I doubt whether the defense forces are viable.We might be in a position where a missile-based conflict is the only option. rumble.com...

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
The Military should just make a really cool game called 'Current War Plus Plus' or something.
Make it the best FPS game ever made and available on every gaming platform and online on all operating systems. Have it even give you cash prizes for accomplishing goals.

All the while this is connected to actual combat drones and droids that the users are unknowingly operating.

Current War ++

idk, maybe?

I mean, you could even blow up your own house in this game and not even know it until it is too late. crazy

You’re not too far off. This is a new generation and they will need new recruiting techniques. This kids aren’t that patriotic and aren’t about hand to hand combat.

Tell them terrorist will kill their internet or phone and they might be willing to fight for that.

Have laser tag, paint ball, virtual games and such as a recruiting tool.
Offer free PERMANENT housing. If you serve so and so many years you will be guaranteed a house.
Time for them to think outside the box and give people what they want and stop thinking it’s 1960s.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: network dude

If people haven’t figured out yet that our military uses people at its whim, I don’t know what to say.

I've been listening to retired military men that actually fought in real wars and they say the U.S. is desperate for combat experienced fighters because supposedly they have more Generals than experienced soldiers.

2-4 years ago I read the USAF was at least 6 years behind on drawing down the number of general officers, doubt its changed.

Once you are in the good ole boys club the protection is real.

originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: network dude

If people haven’t figured out yet that our military uses people at its whim, I don’t know what to say.

I've been listening to retired military men that actually fought in real wars and they say the U.S. is desperate for combat experienced fighters because supposedly they have more Generals than experienced soldiers.

2-4 years ago I read the USAF was at least 6 years behind on drawing down the number of general officers, doubt its changed.

Once you are in the good ole boys club the protection is real.

Retired army Colonel Macgregor gives his opinion (a year ago) and it's an eye opener. So the jab is the least of the problems unless getting Covid would take out soldiers due to illness when the numbers are too low to begin with.

I'm not sure why people do not understand that the jabs have a lot of #e in them, but also for the soldiers, there is "enhancement" properites. This is why, if you can survive the military jabs....they were mandated.

a reply to: network dude

This is exactly why I fear a larger conflict with the East; Russia or China. Our low recruitment would absolutely mean a draft, for men and women alike. Sons and daughters. A lot of people. Multiple birthdays chosen maybe.

I'd rather we help those smaller countries fight their fights, and help deter something larger. Keep the aggression localized.

a reply to: Klassified

Thats like a $10 settlement for each individual.

If I was young again and I saw how they treated the soldiers for refusing the covid vaccine, I surely would never have even thought about going in the military. The vaccine was not properly tested in my opinion, it would never have been allowed to be used with what evidence they had before the covid hit. If I were trashed for not taking it, I would never consider reinlisting even if they gave a big bonus. The military really screwed up by listening to a few high powered politicians and agency heads pushing fear.

This is just my opinion, I will not state any evidence or say it is fact because that would put me in a place where people pushing this vaccine could attack the evidence I base my opinions on about this subject.

I wasn't born yesterday and keep learning from my mistakes and the mistakes of others. I give opinions on specific circumstances, I do not choose sides and not consider anything other than what that side believes. Same goes for politics, there are good politicians on both sides, but they are being forced into following their party lines..

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: Klassified

Thats like a $10 settlement for each individual.

New suits could ask for much more, but the point is not the money, it's the violation of their rights and driving that point home to the extreme.

Who the heck would want to join and be separated from their spouse and kids to go to sit in some dump shat hole for a year?

Ok I get the technical jobs such as a pilot or doctor to have something in your civilian résumé, but let’s be real, they need Enlisted blue collar laborers. I would never allow my kids nor recommend to my friends to go Enlisted. Maybe Officer but it better be a damn good job they can transfer over to the civilian side.

a reply to: 38181

Something has gone wrong, it is something so subtle that no one has noticed it, I have the suspicion it is linked to the "Peter Principle" where a really good foreman who teaches those under him all the tricks he knows, gets promoted to a cushy job in management, The @#$ licking chargehand takes over his job and its downhill from then on.

Is someone going to be charged with giving an unlawful general order? Are there even provisions within the US military for bring such a charge to a courtroom?

They’ve shown where their loyalty lies, what will they do to demonstrate a commitment to a new line of reasoning.

a reply to: hangedman13

a reply to: Dalamax
The Buck Stops at the President. Everyone down the chain is following orders.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: Dalamax
The Buck Stops at the President. Everyone down the chain is following orders.

and if you point out the flaw in the system, you get punished.

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Yeah I know 🤷🏽‍♂️ I reckon the unvaccinated should be put in charge of military immunisation.

From head bean all the way down to nurses and surgery aides.

IMO, have a magical day dude(tte) 🤙

a reply to: 38181

Before we say "gay", there's actually many gay men who did serve, even when it was technically illegal in the US.

I think most of those past laws were to weed out the "uncontrollable" cases, although there were victims.

The current "wokeness" seems to be more against masculinity, and there's many masculine gay men.

Yeah I know 🤷🏽‍♂️ I reckon the unvaccinated should be put in charge of military immunisation.

From head bean all the way down to nurses and surgery aides.

IMO, have a magical day dude(tte) 🤙

a reply to: 38181