Jan 6th lies, and some data erased by Sham Committee

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: Annee

along the lines of Jack Smith

Will you be leaving the country when Trump gets exonerated?
Or will you leave when he gets elected?

Has nothing to do with Trump.

originally posted by: Annee


Trump is responsible for everything he is accused of. Whether he is found guilty or not.

Mao, Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot pogrom thinking. The syndrome is strong in this one.

Of course the thread is about a three year game of hiding evidence from the public to allow a narrative.

A narrative sinking like the Titanic I might add.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mike72
a reply to: Annee
So they've ran out of things to accuse him of and have to drag out the old accusations, hoping for a different|new outcome. In a different timeline that's a sign of mental illness ...

In this timeline, I'm sure all of your anti-trumpers "feel" that he has committed many crimes ...

Trump is responsible for everything he is accused of. Whether he is found guilty or not.

As he continues to run his mouth and prove his guilt.

You always said facts are facts.

Now it's all a different story eh.

You always said wait for the facts.

Now it's guilty by default eh.

lol lol lol

originally posted by: Phoenix

originally posted by: Annee


Trump is responsible for everything he is accused of. Whether he is found guilty or not.

Mao, Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot pogrom thinking. The syndrome is strong in this one.

Of course the thread is about a three year game of hiding evidence from the public to allow a narrative.

A narrative sinking like the Titanic I might add.

Yep -- Everybody's fault except Trump.

Bow down.

a reply to: Annee
How does this have nothing to do with Trump?

I thought he staged an insurrection on January 6.

originally posted by: Mike72
a reply to: Annee
How does this have nothing to do with Trump?

I thought he staged an insurrection on January 6.

I am not a lawman or judge or Attorney General or lawyer or . . . .

Charges were brought from those who have the authority to do so.

a reply to: Annee
But you seem to have already rendered a guilty verdict ...

a reply to: network dude

There is no evidence that some of the footage was deleted. It is an allegation.

To figure out if any footage was deleted, you would have to know each camera location that was operating at the time, and then look for inconsistencies in the timestamps of the footage looking for gaps.

Except also that most security camera systems, when facing unchanging scene, truncate the data to save space and recorded bandwidth. On the consoles of the security apps, these blank sections are rendered as greyed out on the timeline. So, if you exported the raw footage from the app, you would not know when the capture was off because the scene was static, or if the footage had been deleted.

And there is probably also a difference between what has been publicly released, and the total footage on archive. National security, and the irrelevance of some of the footage, would probably mandate that some footage is not necessary to released to the public.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: network dude

There is no evidence that some of the footage was deleted. It is an allegation.

To figure out if any footage was deleted, you would have to know each camera location that was operating at the time, and then look for inconsistencies in the timestamps of the footage looking for gaps. Except also that most security camera systems, when facing unchanging scene, truncate the data to save space and recorded bandwidth.

And there is probably also a difference between what has been publicly released, and the total footage on archive. National security, and the irrelevance of some of the footage, would probably mandate that some footage is not necessary to released to the public.

If you watch the video in the OP, it didn't specify video footage, only that over a TB of data has been erased. And no, I don't care what you believe.

a reply to: Annee

If someone is not charged you cannot exonerate them.

This is a statement to be used to make it seem like Trump got away with something. Parroted over and over and over and over until most believe it.

If we use your logic, I believe the FBI already investigated and said there was no insurrection.So....why is it still a discussion or is it only when they act the way YOU want we listen.

Link

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

Our own DOJ, that the FBI is part of, said it never happened. That would also include the DNI.

Why do none of you talk about this? Because Liz Cheney says it happened?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: network dude

There is no evidence that some of the footage was deleted. It is an allegation.

To figure out if any footage was deleted, you would have to know each camera location that was operating at the time, and then look for inconsistencies in the timestamps of the footage looking for gaps. Except also that most security camera systems, when facing unchanging scene, truncate the data to save space and recorded bandwidth.

And there is probably also a difference between what has been publicly released, and the total footage on archive. National security, and the irrelevance of some of the footage, would probably mandate that some footage is not necessary to released to the public.

If you watch the video in the OP, it didn't specify video footage, only that over a TB of data has been erased. And no, I don't care what you believe.

This is a fairly standard faux news 'smoking gun' that turns into a nothingburger.

We do have some footage that has been publicly released that shows there was violence and weight of numbers of protesters breaching the Capitol building and calling for the deaths of politicians.

a reply to: chr0naut

WHen did he refuse to step down? He left the White House when Biden was sworn in, without incident.

Where did you get this fiction?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

If someone is not charged you cannot exonerate them.

The special counsel did charge that several from the Trump campaign did collude with Russian agents. Mueller also alleged that Trump was directly involved, but had insufficient evidence to prove it, and was constrained from indicting a sitting President. The charge was there in Mueller's report. There's pages of it.

This is a statement to be used to make it seem like Trump got away with something. Parroted over and over and over and over until most believe it.

If we use your logic, I believe the FBI already investigated and said there was no insurrection.So....why is it still a discussion or is it only when they act the way YOU want we listen.

Link

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

Our own DOJ, that the FBI is part of, said it never happened. That would also include the DNI.

Why do none of you talk about this? Because Liz Cheney says it happened?

The FBI did not say that the Jan 6 insurrection did not happen. They said that it was not pre-organized and actioned by any single entity.

In other words it was a mob.

a reply to: chr0naut

Nobody denies there was a peaceful demonstration which turned violent.

Many know that there were outside agitators, and FBI undercover in the crowd.

We have seen the situation with Epps and Sullivan. Sure, they were charged long after it was shown that the questions about the two would not go away any other way. Plausibility at this point. We really don't know what is truly going on behind the headlines on either of them.

Insurrection? Nah. Not even close.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Charged long after? Sullivan was charged January 14th 2021 with 6 charges. Who is Phelps?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: chr0naut

WHen did he refuse to step down? He left the White House when Biden was sworn in, without incident.

Where did you get this fiction?

Refus ing to concede, Trump blocks cooperation on transition

The Founders didn’t prepare for a president who refuses to step down, historians say

Donald Trump refuses to concede defeat as recriminations begin

Trump won't commit to peaceful transfer of power if he loses the election

Biden says Trump not conceding ‘an embarrassment’: Election news

Donald Trump Goes Full Dictator, Vows to Stay in Office Regardless of Election Results

a reply to: chr0naut

speaking of nothing burgers, here are two questions for you.

question 1:
What date was Joe Biden supposed to be sworn in as the 46th president?

Question 2:
What date did Joe Biden ACTUALLY swear in and move into the white house?

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: chr0naut

Nobody denies there was a peaceful demonstration which turned violent.

Many know that there were outside agitators, and FBI undercover in the crowd.

We have seen the situation with Phelps and Sullivan. Sure, they were charged long after it was shown that the questions about the two would not go away any other way. Plausibility at this point. We really don't know what is truly going on behind the headlines on either of them.

Insurrection? Nah. Not even close.

Trump had already lost.

Why would the FBI motivate an insurrection that was attempting to keep a defeated President in power?

What you suggest is nuts. Truly Qtarded.

Epps a reply to: frogs453

a reply to: chr0naut

Ted Cruz was speaking to convince the proceedings to follow an historical precedent to take a 10 day tiger team into looking into the accusations of election problems.

This 10 days could have gone a long way to clearing up the controversy and convincing the American public what went on.

As it was, the riot broke out, and nobody ever brought up the 10-day Congressional tiger team approach again, and anyone wanting to look into the problems was shouted down and labelled an 'election denier'.

So yes, team Donkey had a reason to start a false flag insurrection.