Censoring and Silencing University Staff and Students who criticise the State of Israel

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More than 100 Harvard professors slam university president for bowing to donor ‘pressure’ and condemning antisemitism

More than 100 Harvard professors have sent a letter to university president Claudine Gay, condemning her for issuing a statement opposing antisemitism on campus — claiming she was bowing to the interests of wealthy donors and alumni, and was infringing on the free speech of students.

Part of the letter

As Harvard faculty, we have been astonished by the pressure from donors, alumni, and even some on this campus to silence faculty, students, and staff critical of the actions of the State of Israel. It is important to acknowledge the patronizing tone and format of much of the criticism you have received as well as the outright racism contained in some of it.

We were nevertheless profoundly dismayed by your November 9 message entitled “Combating Antisemitism.” The University's commitment to intellectual freedom and open dialogue seems to be giving way to something else entirely: a model of education in which the meaning of terms once eligible for interpretation is prescribed from above by a committee whose work was, on Tuesday, described to the faculty as only beginning


There must, however, be room on a university campus for debate about the actions of states, including of the State of Israel. It cannot be ruled as ipso facto antisemitic to question the actions of this particular ethno-nationalist government any more than it would be ipso facto racist to question the actions of Robert Mugabe's ethno-nationalist government in Zimbabwe. Nor can arguments that characterize Israel as an “apartheid" state or its recent actions as “ethnic cleansing” or even “genocide” be considered automatically antisemitic, regardless of whether one concurs with such arguments. The University’s recently-announced “Discrimination and Bullying Policies and Procedures,” it is useful to remember, includes “political belief” (and thus presumably its expression) as a protected category.

Who would have thought it that the President of Harvard University would succumb to pressures to choose a particular side on this conflict and brand criticisms against the Israeli Government and State as antisemitism. But that's nothing new, Freedom of Speech is fine unless there are criticisms against the ultra right wing fascistoids of the Israeli Government and Armed Forces who have slaughtered over 10,000 civilians in the name of self defense.

The antisemitic card has failed long time ago and it only exposes the position of those who unequivocally support Israel and its actions. Even in the various threads on this site we have seen similar debunked arguments where legitimate criticisms against the mass killings of thousands of innocent civilians have been branded as antisemitism, Hamas and terrorism support, and Nazi sympathy. They have been debunked again and again but nevertheless it's funny when you see them around.

The reasonable course of action is for the President of Harvard to resign and to realise the gaffe she made succumbing to pressures by external wealthy donors(!) and lobby groups or individuals, who want to censor or even silence the criticisms against the Israeli State. But it's too late for this by now as the entire world has witnessed the massacre of tens of thousands of innocent civilians, many of whom were children and women.

a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

No it's corrected you because you were wrong.
Making the same deliberate mistake as everyone else who doesn't have a valid argument and plays the anti-semitic card.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

No it's corrected you because you were wrong.
Making the same deliberate mistake as everyone else who doesn't have a valid argument and plays the anti-semitic card.

So you are FOR hating Jews, but don't think it's anti-Semitic?

It is not free speech.

There is no clause that allows anyone to infringe upon the rights of others.

And if you're calling for the death of Jews, then that is an infringement of rights.

And is illegal.

Now the left is worried about Censoring and Silencing University Staff and Students?

Hilarious.

ETA

More than 100 Harvard professors have sent a letter to university president Claudine Gay, condemning her for issuing a statement opposing antisemitism on campus

That seems like an odd thing to protest.

I thought the message was that you could be against the war actions in gaza at the same time you are against antisemitism.

I guess that's not true anymore.

Imagine 100 Harvard professors siding with terrorists?
Time to clean house.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
nypost.com...

More than 100 Harvard professors slam university president for bowing to donor ‘pressure’ and condemning antisemitism

More than 100 Harvard professors have sent a letter to university president Claudine Gay, condemning her for issuing a statement opposing antisemitism on campus — claiming she was bowing to the interests of wealthy donors and alumni, and was infringing on the free speech of students.

Part of the letter

As Harvard faculty, we have been astonished by the pressure from donors, alumni, and even some on this campus to silence faculty, students, and staff critical of the actions of the State of Israel. It is important to acknowledge the patronizing tone and format of much of the criticism you have received as well as the outright racism contained in some of it.

We were nevertheless profoundly dismayed by your November 9 message entitled “Combating Antisemitism.” The University's commitment to intellectual freedom and open dialogue seems to be giving way to something else entirely: a model of education in which the meaning of terms once eligible for interpretation is prescribed from above by a committee whose work was, on Tuesday, described to the faculty as only beginning


There must, however, be room on a university campus for debate about the actions of states, including of the State of Israel. It cannot be ruled as ipso facto antisemitic to question the actions of this particular ethno-nationalist government any more than it would be ipso facto racist to question the actions of Robert Mugabe's ethno-nationalist government in Zimbabwe. Nor can arguments that characterize Israel as an “apartheid" state or its recent actions as “ethnic cleansing” or even “genocide” be considered automatically antisemitic, regardless of whether one concurs with such arguments. The University’s recently-announced “Discrimination and Bullying Policies and Procedures,” it is useful to remember, includes “political belief” (and thus presumably its expression) as a protected category.

Who would have thought it that the President of Harvard University would succumb to pressures to choose a particular side on this conflict and brand criticisms against the Israeli Government and State as antisemitism. But that's nothing new, Freedom of Speech is fine unless there are criticisms against the ultra right wing fascistoids of the Israeli Government and Armed Forces who have slaughtered over 10,000 civilians in the name of self defense.

The antisemitic card has failed long time ago and it only exposes the position of those who unequivocally support Israel and its actions. Even in the various threads on this site we have seen similar debunked arguments where legitimate criticisms against the mass killings of thousands of innocent civilians have been branded as antisemitism, Hamas and terrorism support, and Nazi sympathy. They have been debunked again and again but nevertheless it's funny when you see them around.

The reasonable course of action is for the President of Harvard to resign and to realise the gaffe she made succumbing to pressures by external wealthy donors(!) and lobby groups or individuals, who want to censor or even silence the criticisms against the Israeli State. But it's too late for this by now as the entire world has witnessed the massacre of tens of thousands of innocent civilians, many of whom were children and women.

No one cares about Harvard professors and their antisemitism masked as a problem of censorship.

You parrot the same rhetoric. You support Hamas under a false agenda of caring about Palestinians.

Wrap your package of dog crap however you want, most of us see it for what it is. A bag of crap.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

pointing out wrongdoings with ample evidence is not hate..much like how you have been corrected....does not mean we hate.......u

originally posted by: FaeDedAgain

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.
. . .

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

pointing out wrongdoings with ample evidence is not hate..much like how you have been corrected....does not mean we hate.......u

Yeah, . . . . . no.

you my friend...
I give the last word

a reply to: DBCowboy

originally posted by: FaeDedAgain
you my friend...
I give the last word

a reply to: DBCowboy

'Kay.

I stand with Israel.

a reply to: Leviathan4

I suppose they don't support thinking for yourself in universities anymore. I may be wrong but the way I have been reading things in the passing years is that college professors are alot more wrong about morality in any subject than right. What do you believe?

So about that LGBBQ thing...


Are we not doing that anymore, or......

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

No it's corrected you because you were wrong.
Making the same deliberate mistake as everyone else who doesn't have a valid argument and plays the anti-semitic card.

So you are FOR hating Jews, but don't think it's anti-Semitic?

It is not free speech.

There is no clause that allows anyone to infringe upon the rights of others.

And if you're calling for the death of Jews, then that is an infringement of rights.

And is illegal.

there was that time long ago you were in bunny slippers and we were making eye contact when a certain star pattern shot across the sky, and your words where some bull # about pump heels and cold beer, histry bro.

originally posted by: JinMI
So about that LGBBQ thing...


Are we not doing that anymore, or......

Now we'll see guys in drag reading books to kids about how evil the Jews are.

originally posted by: Brotherman

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Leviathan4

So being anti-Semitic is good now?

Gross.

You meant 'antisemitic'

Correct someone else.

You think hating Jews is good.

That is not good in my opinion.

No it's corrected you because you were wrong.
Making the same deliberate mistake as everyone else who doesn't have a valid argument and plays the anti-semitic card.

So you are FOR hating Jews, but don't think it's anti-Semitic?

It is not free speech.

There is no clause that allows anyone to infringe upon the rights of others.

And if you're calling for the death of Jews, then that is an infringement of rights.

And is illegal.

there was that time long ago you were in bunny slippers and we were making eye contact when a certain star pattern shot across the sky, and your words where some bull # about pump heels and cold beer, histry bro.

We were younger then, and had hair.

originally posted by: JinMI
So about that LGBBQ thing...


Are we not doing that anymore, or......

ran out of letters ...sorry

a reply to: JinMI

im going to get cursed with OT posts but good to see you here again old friend

IDK what acedemics teach anymore so reading stuff like this is both scary and confusing. Its like puberty again only the hair growing in funny places is our peoples brains