Biden Not Expected to Face Charges for Mishandling Classified Documents

a reply to: Threadbarer

Yet there are lower 'class' members that are in prison for mishandling classified info, that had no intent as well.

Trump pardoned one poor fellow after Hillary was left off on worse.

a reply to: Threadbarer

You cant accidentally remove classified materials from a scif. Its designed to prevent you from doing so.

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: JinMI

I mean did anyone seriously expect anything different?

NO. Because Biden was not intentionally trying to hide or manipulate anything.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: Boomer1947

U.S. Govt Fact: (For one Joe Biden Criminal Referral)

""Are there any circumstances when I might be allowed to take classified documents home with me?

No. Classified material must be safeguarded in accordance with the requirements in E.O. 13526, Part 4, Safeguarding; and 32 CFR 2001, Subpart E, Safeguarding.

You must not remove classified material from official premises except to conduct official meetings or conferences, and the material must be returned to safe storage facilities immediately upon the conclusion of the meeting or conference.

Residences are not considered official premises, and you must not remove classified material for reasons of personal convenience or keep it overnight in personal custody.""

Except for the U.S. President, violation of the above legal guidelines is a FELONY.


😳 www.archives.gov...

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Then violating the above will only get you arrested if a Prosecutor wants to arrest you....like ALL CRIMES are handled.

From CFR 32; part 2001:

'The Order provides that these directives are binding on agencies. Section 6.1(a) of the Order defines “agency” to mean any “Executive agency” as defined in 5 U.S.C. 105; any “Military department” as defined in 5 U.S.C. 102; and any other entity within the executive branch that comes into the possession of classified information."

www.ecfr.gov...

When Biden was a Senator or Vice President he was occupying Constitutionally defined offices; he was not an employee of an Executive agency. CFR 32 doesn't apply in this case.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Intent or handling? You are talking in circles to protect this guy.

There is nothing you can say here. Nothing.

I have stated over and over if it is found Trump mishandled convict him.

Biden was a POTUS. He does NOT have the same protection as a POTUS. He had these documents for over a decade it seems. Multiple locations that are NOT safe.

Show evidence he knew he had them....LOL....clown world.

a reply to: JinMI

This obviously the fault of Trump and MAGA people.

When is the DoJ going to indict Trump for this and jail some more grandmothers?

a reply to: Boomer1947

So that applies to the 14th and not allowing Trump to run....you guys are pathetic....

a reply to: Annee

How did they get there?

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Do you know that any of the documents he had were SCI classification?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: JinMI

I mean did anyone seriously expect anything different?

NO. Because Biden was not intentionally trying to hide or manipulate anything.

Biden broke the law, by having classified documents in his garage.

They could not have been there by accident, who signed them out? There is ALWAYS a paper trail.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Yes, according to multiple reports there were Top Secret documents found at Penn.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

How did they get there?

The same way others, like Pence’s got to his house.

Unless you think they pack themselves up.

It’s not rocket science that Pence & Biden fully cooperated in retrieval of documents and Trump didn’t.

a reply to: matafuchs

I'm not talking in circles. I'm explaining the law to you. The law requires a prosecutor to prove intent. Smith believes he has enough evidence to prove intent in his case. That's why he's charging Trump. Hur doesn't think he has enough evidence to prove intent in his case. That's why he's not charging Biden.

This is Law 101.

a reply to: matafuchs

Top Secret /= SCI

a reply to: SourGrapes

He was allowed to have classified documents in his office as a Senator and Vice President. They could very easily have made it to his home or office accidentally when his offices were packed up.

When you know how both Pence & Biden behaved/responded to discovery of classified documents on their property — compared to what Trump did.

Clearly, in comparison, there was (probably still is) intent on Trump’s part.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: matafuchs

I'm not talking in circles. I'm explaining the law to you. The law requires a prosecutor to prove intent. Smith believes he has enough evidence to prove intent in his case. That's why he's charging Trump. Hur doesn't think he has enough evidence to prove intent in his case. That's why he's not charging Biden.

This is Law 101.

www.law.cornell.edu...

You might want to read that.....793a, 793b,793c require intent as so stated. 793d,793e,793f, 793g have no intent requirements as far as I know.

793f is what we used to call the idiot clause because of the "gross negligence" part.

a reply to: RickinVa

Do you know if any of the documents in his possession pertained to national defense?

originally posted by: LeXoXeL

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: LeXoXeL
Trump lied about it several times, Biden didn't. Nobody likes to be lied to, but lying is Trump's MO. So how is this news?

Trump could have killed Kenedy, it makes no difference. This is about Joe Biden's documents. You do grasp that right?

Do I grasp the fact that this is a post complaining that Trump was treated unfairly because Joe isn't being charged? Yes I do! We don't know how he came to hold classified documents, we do know when asked, he turned them over immediately. We don't know how Trump came to hold those documents either (maybe it was the people who packed his things, maybe an aide, maybe Trump himself, all have been listed as potential) but we do know when asked for them, he gave back a few, then lied about having more, then turned more in and lied about having any left, then got raided where they found more.

He lied, that is why he is being prosecuted and Joe isn't.

He lied? I admit he's lied about things. But on this, he said he took them, he said he is keeping them, and he said the bomeheads had their chance to get them, and chose not to. Now this may prove to be a bad move on his part, litterally, the Jury is still out on that one. (they haven't been empaneled yet, but will)

Hate him for what he did. Not for what you wish he did.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: RickinVa

Do you know if any of the documents in his possession pertained to national defense?

Nope and neither do you...I was just pointing out there are laws that do not require intent to prosecute concerning classified materials.