A hill to die on

a reply to: DBCowboy

That was not what I meant by that.

And man, you sure have changed. Just saying.

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Then what is there to argue about? Inevitably we're all dead.

So, can we move off this topic already?

ETA: Is it like an honor to die for this conflict or something? I'm trying to understand how all of this is worth destroying the world.

You may of course move on.


Even start a thread on a topic you wish to discuss.....

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
a reply to: DBCowboy

That was not what I meant by that.

And man, you sure have changed. Just saying.

Not really.

I used to be nicer but as I got older I thought, "What the hell!"

Just be honest.

That way I don't have to remember what I said.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Im growing fond of DB unleashed.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

Is it like an honor to die for this conflict or something? I'm trying to understand how all of this is worth destroying the world.

The USA waged the GWOT for 20 years . Did it destroy the world ?

Israel is taking care of something it should have years ago . You can only have Radical Jihadist in your back yard for so long eventually you have to handle them.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
a reply to: JinMI

Call it whatever you want. Subjective interpretation aside, I don't give two 💩's what their motivations are, the world needs to muzzle this before it literally goes nuclear.

The dominoes are falling as we speak.

Put a muzzle on a wolf it's still a wolf .

Gotta remove it eventually and the Jews are still surrounded by Arab countries who wish them dead.

"the Jews are still surrounded by Arab countries"

Then why, in the ever-loving mercy of God, do they continue to genocide Innocent Civilians in Gaza, absolutely ensuring the surrounding opinion will be animosity and unrest, when it is strategically more sensible to simply assassinate the Heads of HAMAS in the first week of conflict.

I've repeated this over and over.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

No.

Enjoy your hill.

I'm going to stand with Israel and I'll die on that hill.

I will own it.

I won't waffle or prevaricate.

There’s a big picture here.
There are two civilizations going at it.
Take a look around the globe.

We’re pretty screwed up in the west but we don’t have medieval laws and a totalitarian religion that desires planetary dominance through any means necessary.

I’m on the right hill for the future generations of OUR children.

t.me...

Well, I see Judah, and Israel, Phoenicia, and Philistia were on the map thousands of years ago. I dont see Palestine, and all of the Philistines are long gone for thousands of years. They were hauled away and never came back. The Jews however did return to their land multiple times.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Then why, in the ever-loving mercy of God, do they continue to genocide Innocent Civilians in Gaza, absolutely ensuring the surrounding opinion will be animosity and unrest, when it is strategically more sensible to simply assassinate the Heads of HAMAS in the first week of conflict.

you're right it insures the hatred and ridicule of the surrounding nations , Damned if you do Damned if you don't .

Hamas knows this , and for years Israel has put it off and put it off and put it off knowing the PR nightmare it would bring . Hamas crossed the line .

So it has come to that . It has come to War and Violence. Saying just kill the Hamas leaders ? Okay where are they ?

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Then why, in the ever-loving mercy of God, do they continue to genocide Innocent Civilians in Gaza, absolutely ensuring the surrounding opinion will be animosity and unrest, when it is strategically more sensible to simply assassinate the Heads of HAMAS in the first week of conflict.

you're right it insures the hatred and ridicule of the surrounding nations , Damned if you do Damned if you don't .

I see it as " Damned if you do, damned the world to fulfilling a sick, self-serving prophecy of Armageddon world domination if you don't.

Hamas knows this , and for years Israel has put it off and put it off and put it off knowing the PR nightmare it would bring . Hamas crossed the line .

Everyone knows this.

I have yet to see someone in this thread in 7 pages who disputes this.

Is this a required disclaimer for discussion?

So it has come to that . It has come to War and Violence. Saying just kill the Hamas leaders ? Okay where are they ?

I'm sure MOSSAD and CIA know. I'm sure they had some pretty good intel on the Oct. 7th strikes. They usually have great intel on terrorism being so laser focused on defeating it with little regard for innocent civilians for the last decades.

Do you agree that the 56% of innocent Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, do not deserve a chance to survive the genocidal campaign of the War on Terrorism?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Can you cite what source you got the 56% from?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Hmmmm.


This tactic seems very familiar.....

Make claim on multiple threads, then run for the door....

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

Hmmmm.


This tactic seems very familiar.....

Make claim on multiple threads, the run for the door....

Like I said, I never ask an answer that I haven't looked up before I ask it.

a reply to: DBCowboy

How very litigious of you!


I wonder how the polls there work in contrast to polls here.....

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I see it as " Damned if you do, damned the world to fulfilling a sick, self-serving prophecy of Armageddon world domination.

Call it what you will , but take away the Religious aspect and I see unprovoked attacks from Hamas . and on a side note Islam has it's own Prophecies. Wait did you say World Domination ....

Everyone knows this. I have yet to see someone in this thread in 7 pages who disputes this. Is this a required disclaimer for discussion?

Israel cannot simply stand aside and continue to allow these atrocities year after year. Are you really so surprised when Israel decides enough is enough.

I'm sure MOSSAD and CIA know. I'm sure they had some pretty good intel on the Oct. 7th strikes. They usually have great intel on terrorism being so laser focused on defeating it with little regard for innocent civilians for the last decades.

Large assumptions mate.

Do you agree that the 56% of innocent Palestinians who do not support HAMAS, do not deserve a chance to survive the genocidal campaign of the War on Terrorism?

Of course they do . And yet the battle has to be fought none the less , Like I said it has come to that . Hamas crossed the line.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I guess Hamas, the ELECTED government of Gaza, shouldn't have attacked, without provocation, innocent Israeli citizens on Oct 7th. The innocent Palestinian children, who are taught to HATE the Jews, via schools, tv shows and plays where the innocent children are killing the Jews; aren't so innocent after all.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

How very litigious of you!


I wonder how the polls there work in contrast to polls here.....

My citations range from 50+% to 80% support of hamas based on who's reporting and running the polls.

Then again, I'm honest, so there is that.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I'm sure MOSSAD and CIA know. I'm sure they had some pretty good intel on the Oct. 7th strikes. They usually have great intel on terrorism being so laser focused on defeating it with little regard for innocent civilians for the last decades.

Less than we had on 9/11, I bet. The Jihadist world learned something with Osama, stay off the phones.

I submit Hamas beat the most advanced counter-terrorism network in the world going so low tech, fighters didn't even know what they were preparing for. Few in the loop and world of mouth planned it.

Only a handful of people, at most, really had to know. The rest are just stockpiling and training like always until go time. No real deviation in behavior to raise suspicion.

How would you beat an agency with spies and a digital intradiction web? I would plan it indirectly to make it look like Iran just giving them more rockets. Same stockpiling and tunnel building as always.

What really needed to be planned? Seems like they were just given meth and told to go kill Jews, and capture hostages to bring back at the last minute.

There are several paranoid myths about the world's security and intelligence agencies. Only works against them when something like this happens. It's always a deliberate omission to justify a war, even if it derails a mutually desired peace negotiation with Saudi Arabia.

But stupid people like false flags because Hitler and a few other used them at points in History.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

How very litigious of you!


I wonder how the polls there work in contrast to polls here.....

My citations range from 50+% to 80% support of hamas based on who's reporting and running the polls.

Then again, I'm honest, so there is that.

Ya this is getting awkward

Support for the Nazi Party, less than three percent of eligible voters in 1924, rose to 31 percent in July 1932, 27 percent in November 1932, and 39 percent in March ­1933.

www.wilsonquarterly.com...

Didn’t we bomb the hell out of them?

a reply to: quintessentone

How could all these celebrations be against the Global War on Terrorism when it didn't start until AFTER the 9/11 attacks?
Be smarter with your talking points.