Rep. Elise Stefanik files ethics complaint against NYSCJ Arthur Engoron

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
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A riled up base = turnout

Yes, it does.

Reason current polls are useless. The Cult trips over themselves to be counted/polled.

The rest of us go about our business quietly and will be heard at election time.

a reply to: MoreCoyoteAngels

Not at all. Democrats have overperformed in every election since Roe was overturned.

Are you worried?

a reply to: Threadbarer

If you mean going after the people who had harass him and his family since he announced in 2015. Yes. He does not sound like HItler nor is he. If he was Hitler he would have had Pelosi and Schumer killed in their sleep.

It is not about adversaries. What you are describing is what they are doing to Trump but you are ok with it.

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Sad that abortion is the only thing that matters to so many people.

The right to kill babies right up to the moment of birth trumps the economy, the border, and two wars as reasons to vote.

I'm worried, and those that care only about abortion should be ashamed.

And we will get the govt we've elected.

Glad I'm old. I wont miss the dystopia that is rapidly becoming of the US.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
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Sad that abortion is the only thing that matters to so many people.

How about we remove your rights to autonomy to reproduce -- like in China.

I bet that has a different ring to you than rights to autonomy to terminate a pregnancy.

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Rep. Elise Stefanik files ethics complaint against NYSCJ Arthur Engoron

I still see it as a stunt.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogani
Elise Stefanik sounds 100% like she works on the Trump campaign. The way she sounds in what she's saying about this ethics complaint is like reading a Trump fundraising email.

If you didn't put a name on top, I would not be able to tell which is which and who's saying what.

Go ahead and do a Pepsi challenge on it and see if you can tell them apart.

Sounds like an “everyone will know my name” stunt to me.

They're saying that she didn't even write the letter, Trump's lawyers did, because it cites several court cases and their outcomes with footnotes. LOL, Stephani isn't a lawyer.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mahogani
Elise Stefanik sounds 100% like she works on the Trump campaign. The way she sounds in what she's saying about this ethics complaint is like reading a Trump fundraising email.

If you didn't put a name on top, I would not be able to tell which is which and who's saying what.

Go ahead and do a Pepsi challenge on it and see if you can tell them apart.

Sounds like an “everyone will know my name” stunt to me.

They're saying that she didn't even write the letter, Trump's lawyers did, because it cites several court cases and their outcomes with footnotes. LOL, Stephani isn't a lawyer.

Yes, I read that.

Total stunt.

It shows trump is getting desperate, he knows he is a loser, and has lost this court case and will have to pay a lot.

originally posted by: bruce88
It shows trump is getting desperate, he knows he is a loser, and has lost this court case and will have to pay a lot.

Didn't you know it's all fabrication -- he's an innocent victim? s/

originally posted by: Irishhaf
I cant stand her

I'm curious why?

But thats also part of the reason the case was filed the way it was, force a bench only and limit appeal avenues and allow the DA to get a judge that doesnt want to follow the law because orange man bad.

So, I was surprised to learn this about the statue he is charged under doesn't allow for a jury trial.

Can you elaborate on that?

January 3, 2024

WHO HERE WOULD CHEER IF THE JUDGE IN THIS VIDEO WAS (Trump hater) ARTHUR ENGORON???

Out of Nevada today: gettr.com...

It would be the most viewed clip on the internet....and the most cheered!

originally posted by: matafuchs
Now, it was not so much the filing but some things included in the article that do not match what I KNOW I have read in the media. The judge has not applied the law and I like to see an elected official holding others accountable especially in this politically charged case. She lists multiple things in the complaint including the following.

Prejudice
Gag Order
Refusing Evidence
Refusing information from Actual Real Estate testimony
Not enforcing Statue of Limitation
Stating he was not there to listen to the defendant attempt to clear his name

Below are the examples

Ms. Stefanik listed several items she believed pointed to bias, beginning a year ago, before the trial, when the judge told President Trump's attorney that President Trump was "just a bad guy."

Ms. Stefanik said such speech was "core political speech" protected by the First Amendment. "If anyone in America must have the constitutional right to speak out against the judge, his staff, the witnesses, or the process, it’s a defendant going through a process he believes is politicized and weaponized against him," she wrote, accusing the judge's order of being "un-American."

She also accused him of ignoring an appellate court's ruling that set a statute of limitations on the case, smiling for the pool cameras, and the summary judgment he made before the trial began.

While on the witness stand, President Trump gave long and detailed answers about his properties, which the judge seemed not to like. He told his lawyers to "control" their client, and when attorney Chris Kise tried to explain the "extraordinary circumstances" they were in that might warrant these detailed answered, the judge said he was "not here to listen to what you [President Trump] have to say."

Justice Engoron told defense attorney Alina Habba, “I am not here to hear what he has to say, now sit down!” when she protested, and when Mr. Kise said he would file a motion for directed verdict, the judge said, "You better not, Chris!"

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) sent a letter to the New York State Commission on Judicial Conduct expressing "serious concerns" about the judge overseeing a civil fraud trial against former President Donald Trump and the Trump Organization. "This judge’s bizarre behavior has no place in our judicial system," she wrote, describing "inappropriate bias" and "judicial intemperance" in her Nov. 10 letter.

All things that are used to not allow a defendant to prove his is not liable for damages. Now, the one part I did not know is that the type of trial this is cannot have a jury. I could swear I have read quite a few of you laughing and stating how dumb Trump could be for not choosing a jury.

As such, the bench trial—there is no jury under the statute prosecutors are using—will only deal with what penalties President Trump will need to face.

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It will be interesting where this goes. It could mean nothing but it is bringing to light all of the things wrong with this trial.

a reply to: bruce88

Hmm... I do not Recall Mr. Trump Ever being Accused or Convicted of Rape . Care to Enlighten us All here with some sort of Proof of that Serious Accusation ?

a reply to: matafuchs

what bothered me the most judge whackado pervy decided without even hearing trumps defense. all he did was read the states case, decide he was guilty, and moved on to penalty phase and seemed pety much had his mind made up.

hell even if this was a guilty until proven innocent country, trump didn't stand a chance in the first phase.