James Webb Telescope Detected Artificial City-Like Lights on Proxima B!

originally posted by: dothedew

Starfield is more than just a game, it's a road map to the future!

We just need to perfect our engines and figure out how to star hop like blonde groupies and we'll be all set to visit these other goldilocks planets in no time.

Have you played starfield, Id say its barely a game, I'm a big Bethesda fan and to say Starfield is a disappointment is an understatment, if we are basing our engines on that game we basically need to invent fast travel and endless loading screens

3D rotatable model of what we know so far about Proxima b.
exoplanets.nasa.gov...

The trappist 1 system is where the Aliens are.

a reply to: FurPerson

Thanks for posting this. S&F. Pretty fascinating stuff! I love science.

originally posted by: FurPerson
a reply to: SprocketUK

motorcycle polo?
I had to google Motorball I got no idea what that is.

But yeah awesome stuff if true
*fingers crossed

Thats a shock since you got Alita as your av pic

originally posted by: FurPerson
a reply to: dothedew

sorry, didn't catch your sarcasm.

I'm just super excited! Imagine: cities on another planet!?

We need to show them how to WAR pretty fast, just in case they haven't figured that out yet.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Weather balloons....

eta: wait.... just as good!

Wow amazing video, thanks for sharing with us, I love to see that we are not along and never has been alone in the universe.

That is some good technobabble in that video. I had no idea the James Webb telescope was a Ham radio? 1.6 to 2.5 meter wavelength band. that is not visible light but radio waves.

What is this parsec it mentions? That is a measure of distance, about 3.26 light years.

Someone put an astronomy book into a blender to get it this bad.

originally posted by: FurPerson
There is nothing written found yet and the chanel is revel discovery so far it appeared pretty mainstream to me?
Has someone heard about that somewhere else?

The blunders are so obvious in this video I would have thought anybody could detect it's full of nonsense. Already in the first 12 seconds is nonsense:

0:04
This planet, Proxima, holds a unique position in our solar system as the closest celestial body to the sun that doesn't orbit it directly.

Doesn't everybody know that "our solar system" refers to things orbiting our sun? Proxima b orbits another star so is not part of our solar system. This should have been a huge red flag in the first 12 seconds this is not mainstream, it's crap.

1:20 audio sounds like an AI or bot trying to pronounce JWST and failing miserably, also fails pronunciation of astrobiologist 20s later.

"Proximity to the main sequence of stars" is total nonsense in this context:

Observing Proxima Centauri, nestled within the Orion arm of our Milky Way Galaxy, has
1:49
historically proven to be a daunting challenge due to its faint luminosity and proximity to the main sequence of stars."

That makes no sense.

Total nonsense:

What further heightens the intrigue is that these light emissions remain visible even
2:48
at wavelengths between 1.6 and 2.5 meters, a time when they would typically be expected to be at their peak intensity.

Visible light emissions are between 380 nanometers and 760 nanometers. 2 meter wavelenghts are not anywhere near light, Kudos to BeyondKnowledge3 for identifying some of the nonsense!

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
That is some good technobabble in that video. I had no idea the James Webb telescope was a Ham radio? 1.6 to 2.5 meter wavelength band. that is not visible light but radio waves.

What is this parsec it mentions? That is a measure of distance, about 3.26 light years.

Someone put an astronomy book into a blender to get it this bad.

Right, and it gets worse, look at this from the transcript:

6:27
To provide some context, the distance between one parsec and the nearest star is approximately
6:33
326 light-years.

326 light years is not the distance between one parsec and the nearest star (which isn't even a coherent reference), and the video already said the nearest star is 4 light years away, and it even says it again, so even someone who knows nothing about science should see the problem here with saying the nearest star is 4 light years away while also referring to a distance of 326 light years, holee molee!

To make matters even worse, the video contradicts itself by first saying proxima centauri could unleash gamma rays that could destroy all life on earth and then doing a 180 and saying no it won't:

7:09
Given that Proxima Centauri is a mere 4.2 light years away, it could unleash gamma rays
7:15
and charged particles capable of devastating life on Earth.
7:19
However, there is no need for immediate panic or fear, as current scientific knowledge suggests
7:25
that Proxima Centauri is too small to support the development of a supernova, thereby eliminating
7:31
any threat it may pose to Earth.

But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if its ultraviolet emissions made life unlikely on Proxima b as the NASA site suggests (Yes, NASA is mainstrean if you want something mainstream).

exoplanets.nasa.gov...

In the habitable zone of its star, Proxima Centauri, Proxima b encounters bouts of extreme ultraviolet radiation hundreds of times greater than Earth does from the Sun. That radiation generates enough energy to strip away not just the lightest molecules — hydrogen — but also, over time, heavier elements such as oxygen and nitrogen.

Thank heavens, a source that's not full of complete nonsense!

Maybe the Revel Discovery video was generated by some kind of AI bot?

If you can't immediately recognize how much nonsense that video contains, you really shouldn't be listening to videos like that, because they will take the little knowledge of science you may have already, and reduce it that little knowledge to dust by scrambling your brain with nonsense and more nonsense.

By the way, I've run across other channels on youtube that have bot generated content, in particular some were about the Russia-Ukraine war and they spouted lies and nonsense. What's most disturbing is how some of those channels have hundreds of thousands of subscribers. I don't know if they are using bots to generate subscriptions, or if hundreds of thousands of people are idiots who can't tell they're listening to bot lies and nonsense.

Naturally, if there are thousands of civilizations in this galaxy alone, many of them have developed light bulbs.

But how do you see lights on a planet when that planet's Sun is emitting so much light/glare?

originally posted by: WeMustCare
Naturally, if there are thousands of civilizations in this galaxy alone, many of them have developed light bulbs.

But how do you see lights on a planet when that planet's Sun is emitting so much light/glare?

Precision filtering and waiting until the planet is in front of that system's star, so it would be dark like a new moon. And using other wavelengths of light in imaging? (And a very powerful telescope which until (maybe) now hasn't been invented yet, or the tech is coming into being reality). Can the JW telescope really do it? I'd be surprised if they actually make it officially public if it can.

Just my thoughts.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: WeMustCare
Naturally, if there are thousands of civilizations in this galaxy alone, many of them have developed light bulbs.

But how do you see lights on a planet when that planet's Sun is emitting so much light/glare?

Precision filtering and waiting until the planet is in front of that system's star, so it would be dark like a new moon. And using other wavelengths of light in imaging? (And a very powerful telescope which until (maybe) now hasn't been invented yet, or the tech is coming into being reality). Can the JW telescope really do it? I'd be surprised if they actually make it officially public if it can.

Just my thoughts.

I would jump for joy if our technology has advanced to the point where we can see the surface of a planet outside of our solar system!

And just as importantly, Proxima-B is only 4.2 light-years away. Maybe knowing there's intelligent life there would give Earth the desire to do what's necessary to get to that planet. Wanting to see a place we know has life, is a far bigger motivator ,than wanting to get to another star system simply because its there.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Alita as your av pic

who? I got me put in to cyberpunk by pica ai (I believe) as avatar

a reply to: Arbitrageur

lol
see?
that is why we need you I thought it is totally legit.
I think I took it as exploring possibilities and pointing out the open questions, I didn't know you have already studied Proxima B and know everything there is to know.

originally posted by: FurPerson
a reply to: Arbitrageur

lol
see?
that is why we need you I thought it is totally legit.
I think I took it as exploring possibilities and pointing out the open questions, I didn't know you have already studied Proxima B and know everything there is to know.

My post was mostly not about Proxima b, so it seems ridiculous for you to respond to my post as if it's about Proxima b. I did discuss the star it orbits, and how your source alternately referred to the distance as 4.2 light years and something like 326 light years, almost in the same breath, and then alternately talked about how it could destroy life on earth and not destroy life on earth in the same breath. These are pretty obvious contradictions built into the transcript, and I was hoping you'd comment on those or wonder how you could miss them and think your source was reliable, or even asking serious questions, when it was showering the viewer with bovine excrement constantly.

Sure there's likely life out there somewhere, but if you really want to raise that topic as an open question, find sources that can be taken seriously, not sources that refer to the same star as both 4.2 and 326 light years away. You don't have to know anything about science and not much math to know that 4.2 and 326 are not even close.

Also, when you say "There is nothing written found yet", consider that a possible warning sign that you may have found a bogus source. Science tends to be published in writing by scientists in hard to understand form, then science writers try to communicate it to the average person in simpler form, though sometimes they miscommunicate. But if you find nothing in writing, that's not a good sign.

originally posted by: FurPerson

what there are signs of artificial light near Proxima B?

There is nothing written found yet and the chanel is revel discovery so far it appeared pretty mainstream to me?

Channel info:

Kanalinfo This channel is all about exploring the universe and learning about the amazing things that science has to offer. We'll cover everything from the latest discoveries in technology, space exploration and to the most fascinating scientific phenomena.
Here are some of the things you can expect to see on our channel:

Space exploration: We'll update you on the latest missions to Mars, the Moon, and beyond. We'll also explore the history of space exploration and the people who made it possible.
Scientific phenomena: We'll deeply dive into some of the most amazing scientific phenomena, such as black holes, supernovae, and the Big Bang.
Science news: We'll keep you up-to-date on the latest scientific breakthroughs and discoveries. We'll also interview scientists and other experts to get their insights on the latest research.

Has someone heard about that somewhere else?

I never trust videos that use text to speech as their narrator and stock footage as their transitions.

originally posted by: FurPerson
a reply to: SprocketUK

Alita as your av pic

who? I got me put in to cyberpunk by pica ai (I believe) as avatar

Haha well that AI picked Alita if you google Alita Battle angel and look at the pics you will see it

a reply to: SprocketUK

well no that is my actual face, sort of 'embellished' maybe but my face

This is the one from after I dyed my hair