The Untold Story of Malaysian Flight MH370

a reply to: Zaphod58

Hey Zaphod, you mention NRL-22 doesn't have optical capabilities (that would be a dead giveaway of hoax IMO) but I noticed in the article the satellite mentioned is NROL-22.At a (very quick) glance it looks like NRL satellites are smaller satellites with no optical capabilities but NROL is more along the lines of an intelligence satellite (which I imagine would have optical capabilities). Forgive my ignorance, but is there a difference?

Sorry, I havent watched all the vids, so apologies for any ignorance...

The vide of the place in FLIR mode, with the 3 orbs circling it before it vanishes -- what was taking that video? And why was it taking that video?

GIvem this was just a normal public aircraft going about its business, why would any normal person be videoing it, **if** the answer is, some random guy woth FLIR cameras just happend to be videing it..

a reply to: NoOneButMeAgain

The FLIR was alleged to be from a Gray Eagle MQ-1C drone.

Unsure about the satellite in question, as Zaphod said likely not NROL-22 however it is speculated it is leaked footage from a spy satellite. It is NOT a visual image but likely IR or near IR, Ashton Forbes speculated these 'orbs' were not visible to the naked eye.

The two satellites in question is NROL-22 and USA-229, one with one being used as a relay/controller satellite.

SBIRS(Space Based Infrared System) mission statement has this capability.

a reply to: ArMaP

20:40 into the first video shows the satellite view with Ashton talking about it and 1:20 in the 2nd video shows the drone and alleged satellite images side by side, with the satellite being on the right, it is in IR or near IR so not visible light in the recording.

My understanding of the capabilities of the SBIRS mission statement, especially the 'battlefield awareness' definitely has this capability.

About 30 minutes in the first video from my OP is a good spot for the explanation of how Ashton Forbes came to this conclusion.

Here is another link, this one is side by side be aise it is stereoscopic image, so.if you have the tools you can see this in 3D. Unfortunately the original YouTube account that posted this has vanished so this one has to include that creepy music that some seem to think is obligatory when posting about UFOs.

I came across this today.

Location of Crashed Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 Pinpointed, New Search Will Be Quick, Avionics Expert Says

Researchers used ham radio waves as a passive radar to "track" flight mh370. If this technique works, they might actually be able to locate the wreckage and get the black box.

The authors of the new study are physicist and avionics expert Richard Godfrey, Dr. Hannes Coetzee and Professor Simon Maskell. They used an archive of records of radio waves transmitted by ham operators at the time to identify and track MH370 where there was no radar coverage and only intermittent satellite data transfers, or pings.

Scientists have found that the movement of aircraft through these radio waves is visible in the data recorded by what is known as the Weak Signal Propagation Reporter Network, or WSPRnet, better known as "whispernet." The idea of using amateur radio signals as a passive radar system to detect and track aircraft was first proposed in a NATO paper written by the Finnish Air Defence Academy in 2016.

Using whispernet data, Godfrey and his co-authors were able to ascertain that the plane banked south into the Indian Ocean and flew for seven hours 35 minutes before it ran out of fuel and then glided for 11 minutes before subsequently crashing.

They have been able to verify67 positions along the flightpath. The results of the study correspond with analysis of the flight by Boeing, and also with satellite tracking data from company Inmarsat. Its satellites made routine hourly datalinks, known as "handshakes" or "pings" with the flight. The study also corresponds with analysis by the University of Western Australia of the drift patterns of floating debris that has been recovered from around the Indian Ocean.

The new study updates and improves an earlier flight path report created by the same team using WSPRnet which was published in December 2021.

In an exclusive interview, Godfrey spoke to Knewz.com about the significance of the enhanced study data.

“It represents the most accurate and detailed record of the path the plane took and hence the most accurate estimate of the crash site at the end of the flight path after fuel exhaustion,” he explains.

“Broadly we can identify a probable crash site area of ocean 70 nautical miles by 42 nautical miles within which there are hotspots where the likelihood that the aircraft will be increases."

originally posted by: kwaka
One thing that stuck out with the MH370 case, there where about 12 people on board who all held shares in a new microprocessing technology. With them gone, the patent fell into some Rothchild held hands.

Since this event, there has been some changes in corporate policy to not have all eggs in one basket when travelling around.

There were also loads of hiv researchers that were close to finding a cure. Supposedly covid shared similarities with HIV. ......or was that the other flight?

a reply to: jrod

Thanks for that!

What I find strange is that the perspective looks wrong for a satellite, as they are supposed to be orbiting from a great distance above commercial flights, not almost at the same altitude, as the perspective appears to show.

PS: no link in your post.

originally posted by: grey580
I came across this today.

Location of Crashed Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 Pinpointed, New Search Will Be Quick, Avionics Expert Says

Researchers used ham radio waves as a passive radar to "track" flight mh370. If this technique works, they might actually be able to locate the wreckage and get the black box.

I ran across the idea maybe a year ago or so. At first I was excited by the prospect, but then I found some critiques saying it was more wishful thinking than practical. I don't know how accurate that is or what the chances are it would work, I haven't investigated that deeply yet.

Nils Critiques the MH370 WSPR Aircraft Scatter Theory

While it is an exciting theory, it is unfortunately considered by most experts as highly unlikely to yield any suitable results with the main problems being WSPR transmission power too weak to detect reflections from an aircraft, and the effect of the ionosphere too difficult to account for.

Over on his blog Nils Schiffhauer (DK8OK) has posted a thorough critique of the idea, explaining the theory, technical details and difficulties in depth, ultimately coming to the conclusion that the idea is based more in wishful thinking than in fact.

I recall a Twilight-Zone or Outer-Limits show where a passenger jet got caught in a high altitude 'Storm' then all instruments failed, the pilots went down to 2000 feet to try finding landmarks but found only primal wetlands & Dinosaurs...

the show concluded with the flight back on the old heading & everybody relieved to see the Liberty Statue at NY City after passing thru another Vortex Storm on the way-back home in time-space


theres a few hour plus audio-videos which focus on the MH370 going thru a time/space portal.... i'm happy to entertain some degree of woo-woo,,,but i wont take woo-woo over 'Evidence'

and MH370 has no factual evidence to support a crash...the supposed wreckage is just planted 'spoof' stuff imho likely to settle claims for pennies

a reply to: jeenyus2008

NRL satellites are Naval Research Lab satellites. The 22nd satellite in their launch program was part of the DRAGSPHERE program. It was an experiment on the effects of atmospheric drag on satellites.

I suspect they’re interchanging NROL with NRL, as if they’re the same. The NRO sends up multiple types of satellites. They have ELINT, SIGINT, optical, and command satellites. NROL-22 appears to be basically a datalink that sends information from other satellites to ground stations, and commands from the ground to those satellites when they’re out of range of ground stations.

a reply to: ArMaP

This is what i meant to post there:


It is likely just small portion of a much bigger picture that is cropped out to just show the plane, but this angle certainly looks like it is from above, but at an angle.

Just going off what is known about USA-229, I am guessing it has at orbital period around 120 minutes, so it could 'watch' an area for at least 20 minutes if it is in the right spot...

I dont see a parallax effect but not familiar(never have nor never will have access to images from these type of satellites) , but I suppose if the field of view is extremely wide it would be minimal.

a reply to: jrod

Even if we use that satellite, the optical is a problem. NROL-34 is a pair of Intruder satellites that are part of the NOSS program for the Navy. They’re ocean surveillance ELINT satellites. They detect radio signals from ships and track and identify them.

a reply to: jrod

to this lay person the 3 spots-of-light began a 3 dimensional 'circling' of the aircraft and made adjustments to pattern which appears to be a triangle on a vertical plane somewhat distanced off the aircrafts' right wing (say 30' from plane towards observer)

the actions in no way suggest the 3 objects targeting the flight created any force field that the aircraft breached in a bright flash of energy

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: ArMaP

This is what i meant to post there:

Thanks.

It is likely just small portion of a much bigger picture that is cropped out to just show the plane, but this angle certainly looks like it is from above, but at an angle.

Doesn't look from above to me, at least not as much as a satellite would be.

Just going off what is known about USA-229, I am guessing it has at orbital period around 120 minutes, so it could 'watch' an area for at least 20 minutes if it is in the right spot...

120 minutes means a speed of more than 20000 km/h, so during the almost one minute the video lasts the satellite would travel more than 300 km, so we should see a change in perspective in the clouds, that appear fixed in the video

I stumbled upon the Calvine UFO picture thanks to this post, a big W as far as I'm concerned. As for the legitimacy of these videos, it's hard for me to conclude. Also, where's the third video? The black/white footage, it's only shown very briefly.

I don't debunk, it's not my forte, but the clouds don't appear to be moving, only shortly after the flash occurs do you see movement.

One poster commented on a perspective change due to the satellite's orbit. I would agree, except, in what direction was the plane headed in relation to the satellite's orbit? Would we really see a discernible perspective change if both the plane and satellite were travelling East? Keep searching for your truths ATS.

a reply to: NeighborhoodWatch

The satellite speed is around 20,000 km/h, so if the plane was flying at 1,000 km/h the speed difference would be 19,000 km/h.

Also, as I said above, the satellite would have travelled almost 300 km during the length of the video, and we do not see any perspective change in the clouds.

AJ and IW picked up on this story. The article said the plane was on fire though. They named the supposed leaker and showed his picture. He was accused of being a spy, which I didn't know. I'd like to hear from this man. The videos are too good to be true, which makes the story unbelievable, even though I want to believe.

Debunking the debunkers? You decide.

Source: Ashton Forbes

This story will be covered on C2C AM on Saturday, 11/25/2023. Let's Go!

Here is someone else trying to explain these videos on the 'Anonymous' YT channel.

While I don't agree with a lot of their speculation, there does seem to be more information suggesting the overhead shots are indeed coming from the US-229 satellite or satellite pair.

a reply to: jrod

So we’re just going to ignore the fact that ELINT satellites aren’t optical huh.